[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

Tell that to the judge

I don’t need to. He was an adult. He chose to take drugs. That’s on him. Had those people charged not supplied them to him he would have sought them elsewhere.

I don’t disagree with drug dealers being charged btw, but Liam is the overall one that cost himself his own life.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

I don’t need to. He was an adult. He chose to take drugs. That’s on him. Had those people charged not supplied them to him he would have sought them elsewhere.

I don’t disagree with drug dealers being charged btw, but Liam is the overall one that cost himself his own life.

Had he not have been Hogg on drinks/drugs etc then there wouldn't have been a need to seek him medical attention, carry him to his room and stop him coming out, but that didn't ultimately cost him his life.

What cost him his life was a chain of events which could have been prevented from getting worse had the hotel not escorted him to his room when he clearly needed medical attention.

Instead, they put someone who was having a psychotic episode in a room which was 3 levels above ground. It's that act and the act that followed that caused his death

[rusticgal]

It was irresponsible of the staff to drag him from a safe environment of the Hotel lobby to his third floor bedroom with a balcony and lock him in…and then phone the emergency services to tell them they feared for his safety because of where they put him

However if a person chooses to take a dangerous concoction of drugs and alcohol then they put their own life in danger…and sadly he paid the price. He had the money to get himself the best care and treatment unlike many that rely on the NHS that struggle to cope…it cost 18k for a month in therapy.

As for drug dealers…they deserve all they get.

[Kate!]

Dearie me. Poor Liam. Where's the empathy and understanding fgs. He should have been sectioned for his own safety. He'd still be here.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Holly Christmas

Dearie me. Poor Liam. Where's the empathy and understanding fgs. He should have been sectioned for his own safety. He'd still be here.

I don’t have any for him. His family yes, but not him.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

I don’t have any for him. His family yes, but not him.

Same

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

I don’t have any for him. His family yes, but not him.

You don't have anything at all for a mentally ill person who wasn't in his right place at all. ? Surprised by that. Yes he was a fool. But people took advantage of that and that's what caused his death.

Like I said already they should have had him sectioned.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

I don’t have any for him. His family yes, but not him.

Wow.

[ThomasC]

Mods close the thread.

I'm done here, I can't conversate with morons

Or give me a ban for a week.

I'm off to eat chocolate lol

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by ivy balls

Mods close the thread.

I'm done here, I can't conversate with morons

Or give me a ban for a week.

I'm off to eat chocolate lol

No need to call people morons because they don’t agree with you.

Maybe a forum isn’t the place for you.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

No need to call people morons because they don’t agree with you.

Maybe a forum isn’t the place for you.

Ok morons is strong but I get Thomas's frustration. I've had a psychotic episode and it's very dangerous because you really don't know what you're doing? I was put on a mental health ward for a few months and fortunately made a full recovery with an awful lot of support. That could have happened for Liam if they'd done the right thing.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Holly Christmas

Ok morons is strong but I get Thomas's frustration. I've had a psychotic episode and it's very dangerous because you really don't know what you're doing? I was put on a mental health ward for a few months and fortunately made a full recovery with an awful lot of support. That could have happened for Liam if they'd done the right thing.

Yes but you weren’t also foolish enough to be taking drugs. And if he was so unstable why didn’t his family sanction him?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Cranbenny Jamin

Yes but you weren’t also foolish enough to be taking drugs. And if he was so unstable why didn’t his family sanction him?

He was only unstable the last couple of days. Before that he'd been doing very well. Then they preyed on him with the drugs. Yes tbf he chose to take them, it's an addiction. I'm sure his family would've staged an intervention if they'd known.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he could not wait to cheat and humiliate his girlfriend as soon as she left

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

he could not wait to cheat and humiliate his girlfriend as soon as she left

Bullcrap. Proof?

[UserSince2005]

He talked so much about wanting to kill himself in interviews.

And then when he jumps from a balcony you want me to believe it was all just a accident lol

[Kate!]

Friends of Liam Payne have claimed they have proof that the One Direction singer was clean from substances just days before he fell to his death from a third floor hotel balcony in Argentina.

The 31-year-old singer was in Buenos Aires on holiday with the hopes of seeing his former bandmate Niall Horan perform on his tour. Friends close to the star believe he had to be clean as Liam was renewing his expired US visa while in Argentina, ahead of moving to Florida, for which he was asked to undergo tests.

Pals say that Liam had spoken to US embassy officials when he was looking to renew the visa and had been questioned by about his previous stints in rehab. As part of obtaining a new visa, Liam was asked to take a drug test before travelling

[Crimson Dynamo]

'Leaked texts' reveal more details of Liam Payne's final hours: Singer 'told hotel staff they
were 'useless' because they couldn't get cocaine - and he offered sex worker $5,000 to
come to his hotel in hours before death'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...x-workers.html

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

'Leaked texts' reveal more details of Liam Payne's final hours: Singer 'told hotel staff they
were 'useless' because they couldn't get cocaine - and he offered sex worker $5,000 to
come to his hotel in hours before death'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...x-workers.html

Hearsay and speculation.

[Crimson Dynamo]

blame everyone but him

[Kate!]

I'm really wasting my breath in here.

[Niamh.]

Not to sound cynical but people seems to be more sympathetic to him because he was young and good looking, like i couldn't imagine people having the same level of sympathy for someone like Blake Fielder or Pete Doherty

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Not to sound cynical but people seems to be more sympathetic to him because he was young and good looking, like i couldn't imagine people having the same level of sympathy for someone like Blake Fielder or Pete Doherty

I think people have a level of human kindness in most cases

No one sets out to destroy themselves and their relationships with others

They try it they get hooked and the drugs take them over

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I think people have a level of human kindness in most cases



No one sets out to destroy themselves and their relationships with others



They try it they get hooked and the drugs take them over

You haven't read the point I was making properly

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

You haven't read the point I was making properly

I would have a level of sympathy for all drug users because ultimately their life is destroyed and it destroys every relationship they have had