Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 26-03-2025, 03:31 PM #26
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

250,000 people including 50 thousand children will be pushed into poverty by the end of Parliament ...and this is a Labour government, the Country is fecked
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 03:36 PM #27
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

Labour MP Clive Lewis
said he will not vote for this.

He is worried about his disabled folks
in his constituency.

Just spoke on SkyNewsHD
arista is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 03:46 PM #28
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

She is now Live
all media.


From Downing Street
media room.

Last edited by arista; 26-03-2025 at 03:47 PM.
arista is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 03:48 PM #29
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

Reeves MP

Now taking Questions.
arista is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 03:58 PM #30
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Families will be 500.00 better off by the end of Parliament they are trolling us for real, this is almost as good as a penny off a pint off beer....
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 04:12 PM #31
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

Ch5HDnews
In a community hub
Birkenhead,
The manager stated that a nice old lady
can not afford her heating.
So she stays on buses all day.
arista is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 05:20 PM #32
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

From what I can see, it will be people with mental health issues that will lose their PIP as they wont reach the 4 point threshold on some of the questions, most will reach 2 but that will not be enough

800,000 PIP claimants are set to see benefit cuts as Rachel Reeves commits to a Department for Work and Pensions ( DWP ) change. The DWP and Labour Party government has introduced stricter eligibility criteria for those claiming Personal Independence Payment (PIP).

According to the OBR’s March 2025 Economic and Fiscal Outlook, around 800,000 people are expected to lose eligibility for the daily living component of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) due to the new threshold that requires scoring at least 4 points in a single daily living activity.

Birmingham Live
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.

Last edited by Cherie; 26-03-2025 at 05:23 PM.
Cherie is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 05:29 PM #33
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

My other question is the tailored support to get people back to work, exactly what is it apart from sounding good?
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 05:30 PM #34
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Ch5HDnews
In a community hub
Birkenhead,
The manager stated that a nice old lady
can not afford her heating.
So she stays on buses all day.
Remember when Starmer pretended he cared ....pre election of course

He gets no freebies from the poor
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 06:49 PM #35
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,465

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 44,465

Favourites (more):
BB2025: Zelah
CBB2025: Danny Beard


Default

As it stands..
If I was in parliament there's no way I could support this, not the changes to pip particularly.
I've battled for the sick and disabled for many years now.

I'm all for any sick or disabled helped to find work IF they can work and more to the point THEY feel they can.
I've read lots and also on here over the years, when the Cons were in, moaning about the sick and disabled getting this or that.
While yes, there's some who take advantage of the system, it's not a great number.
Even conditions like diabetes, some scoff at that.
I've seen the dangers of it, plus while some can have it controlled, others don't.
The debilitating condition it is with its many complications can even as to that, make it difficult to work.

I've also attended with others, these awful re-assessnents of claimants as to DLA, and PIP and also ESA too.
With NOT a Doctor doing them at all but a probably commission paid so called health professional, who really are nothing more than box tickers with the view of reducing or stopping benefits.

I've been with people left near suicidal after such assessments.
There's next to no compassion.

I couldn't then support these plans as they are.
The changing of the criteria to qualify for PIP.
The current criteria was too heartless in my view, raising the points level in these new plans are absolutely wrong.

This isn't clear enough as to the plans.
If things were stronger economically and you had the necessary things in place to really assist as to work.
Then that would be much more acceptable.
However someone sick and disabled are the ones who really KNOW if they can do work.
They know their bodies, they know how they feel.

Who knows as to someone sick and disabled just how much the added stress of having to work will add to the already limits from their conditions.
Certainly NOT ANY political Party.
Certainly NOT a government either.
Certainly NOT those box tickers doing re-assessing.

I don't like one bit these plans.
Not one bit at all.
I hope Labour backbenchers will think hard on them, however the sad thing is most other Parties would be looking at doing similar.
I never though expected this from this government,no way.

Last edited by joeysteele; 26-03-2025 at 06:52 PM.
joeysteele is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 07:44 PM #36
Livia's Avatar
Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,753


Livia Livia is offline
Flag shagger.
Livia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Brasov, Transylvania
Posts: 34,753


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
From what I can see, it will be people with mental health issues that will lose their PIP as they wont reach the 4 point threshold on some of the questions, most will reach 2 but that will not be enough

800,000 PIP claimants are set to see benefit cuts as Rachel Reeves commits to a Department for Work and Pensions ( DWP ) change. The DWP and Labour Party government has introduced stricter eligibility criteria for those claiming Personal Independence Payment (PIP).

According to the OBR’s March 2025 Economic and Fiscal Outlook, around 800,000 people are expected to lose eligibility for the daily living component of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) due to the new threshold that requires scoring at least 4 points in a single daily living activity.

Birmingham Live
Have they just arrived on a dinghy? No? **** 'em then.

Last edited by Livia; 26-03-2025 at 07:44 PM.
Livia is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 08:04 PM #37
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 105,863


Default

she is so out her depth

its staggering
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 26-03-2025, 08:35 PM #38
Beso's Avatar
Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 48,023

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Beso Beso is offline
Piss orf.
Beso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 48,023

Favourites:
BB4: Cameron


Default

Worst thing is, in 4 years time there no point changing cause the merry go round will just go round again. Keep labour in, its enjoyable having them to blame for a change.
Beso is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:29 AM #39
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:31 AM #40
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:32 AM #41
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:33 AM #42
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:35 AM #43
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:36 AM #44
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:37 AM #45
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:37 AM #46
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 01:39 AM #47
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,925
Default

arista is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 08:28 AM #48
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
user104658 user104658 is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 36,685
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso View Post
Worst thing is, in 4 years time there no point changing cause the merry go round will just go round again. Keep labour in, its enjoyable having them to blame for a change.
I agree with that, the last year has proven that there's very little meaningful democracy left in the UK (or the US but in a very different way here). We're just picking slightly different versions of identical politics.

Some naively think that Reform would be "the answer" and change up everything but I just don't think they would. It would be again a slight variation on exactly the same thing. We don't get to "choose".
user104658 is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 08:40 AM #49
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,688

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Wonder how James O Blob will spin this into a positive this morning, so far he has managed to support Labour on everything...even Starmers glasses and new suits
__________________
'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beso
Livelier than Izaaz, and hes got 2 feet.
Cherie is offline  
Old 27-03-2025, 08:58 AM #50
bots's Avatar
bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,112

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bots bots is offline
self-oscillating
bots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 53,112

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quantum Boy View Post
I agree with that, the last year has proven that there's very little meaningful democracy left in the UK (or the US but in a very different way here). We're just picking slightly different versions of identical politics.

Some naively think that Reform would be "the answer" and change up everything but I just don't think they would. It would be again a slight variation on exactly the same thing. We don't get to "choose".

Changing the government just changes who gets the corrupt cash at the lower levels. The constant winners are the party donors who pick a party to donate to depending on how much they want to F things up, but they always make the money
bots is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
1230pm, budget, emergency, spring, statement, weds


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:13 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts