[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unpopular opinion: I think transgender people should accept the fact that sometimes people will slip and if they do they shouldn't use it as an opportunity to play victim.

Yes. Lack of resiliency is a concern.

[Barry.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unpopular opinion: I think transgender people should accept the fact that sometimes people will slip and if they do they shouldn't use it as an opportunity to play victim.

But he did say that, he said in his everyday life people slip sometimes. It’s the fecking housemates making it a bigger deal

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Barry.

But he did say that, he said in his everyday life people slip sometimes. It’s the fecking housemates making it a bigger deal

He didn't help by going straight to the diary room and being a cloud of sorrow thereafter

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unpopular opinion: I think transgender people should accept the fact that sometimes people will slip and if they do they shouldn't use it as an opportunity to play victim.

People will possibly slip if they knew them pre transition. Caroline has only ever known Zelah as a man, and he doesn't look like anything but a man. Also, "she's a girl" isn't a slip in the same way mistakenly using the wrong pronoun is.

That one comment said everything about how she views trans people.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

People will possibly slip if they knew them pre transition. Caroline has only ever known Zelah as a man, and he doesn't look like anything but a man. Also, "she's a girl" isn't a slip in the same way mistakenly using the wrong pronoun is.

That one comment said everything about how she views trans people.

Caroline has grown up in a world where women couldn't become men and men couldn't become women... she's not going to just simply change that opinion overnight and so yes, her language is going to reflect her true belief. Most people still see the same world that Caroline lives in. Some may not want to accept that, but that's reality.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Maru

Caroline has grown up in a world where women couldn't become men and men couldn't become women... she's not going to just simply change that opinion overnight and so yes, her language is going to reflect her true belief. Most people still see the same world that Caroline lives in. Some may not want to accept that, but that's reality.

At least one Caroline defender admits she's a transphobe, good on you!

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

At least one Caroline defender admits she's a transphobe, good on you!

That word has no meaning to me. It just says someone disagrees and therefore they must be shamed. Idgaf

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Caroline has grown up in a world where women couldn't become men and men couldn't become women... she's not going to just simply change that opinion overnight and so yes, her language is going to reflect her true belief. Most people still see the same world that Caroline lives in. Some may not want to accept that, but that's reality.

How old do you think she is? She's less than 10 years older than the first transgender winner of the show...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

People will possibly slip if they knew them pre transition. Caroline has only ever known Zelah as a man, and he doesn't look like anything but a man. Also, "she's a girl" isn't a slip in the same way mistakenly using the wrong pronoun is.

That one comment said everything about how she views trans people.

She probably feels the same way about Fayisola and Sam for different reasons

At least they’ve seen through her fake facade


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Swan

When you constantly remind people you used to be a female, it must be hard to differentiate at times.

I accept Zelah as a man, from day one, i see him as a man. But being reminded daily he used to live as a woman, and be a woman, it's hard not to see it. Idk.

It wasn't that bad because it wasn't malicious.

Just wanna say, fck this current BB, obsessed with politics and gender, boring af.

I totally agree. He said that’s why he didn’t want to tell anyone but took every opportunity too ….hoe many times do you work out??…”3 as a woman and 2 as a man”….so don’t say you didn’t want people to know

…as for Feysola..she’s getting right on my tits.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Swan

When you constantly remind people you used to be a female, it must be hard to differentiate at times.

I accept Zelah as a man, from day one, i see him as a man. But being reminded daily he used to live as a woman, and be a woman, it's hard not to see it. Idk.

It wasn't that bad because it wasn't malicious.

Just wanna say, fck this current BB, obsessed with politics and gender, boring af.

Oh boy sounds like tonight has been a mess , I'll probably watch it back another time .

Sounds like Zelah is trapping himself in another India Willoughby situation, she kept reminding everyone she was trans aswell.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Swan

When you constantly remind people you used to be a female, it must be hard to differentiate at times.

I accept Zelah as a man, from day one, i see him as a man. But being reminded daily he used to live as a woman, and be a woman, it's hard not to see it. Idk.

It wasn't that bad because it wasn't malicious.

Just wanna say, fck this current BB, obsessed with politics and gender, boring af.

You say it wasn’t malicious but what else can it be .. she knew it was a cruel and hurtful thing to say but probably thought everyone will think it was an hilarious, throw away line ..

But it backfired big time ..

It will stay with her for a while too

There’s no way she wins the show for starters

The other programme like This Morning or Loose Women probably won’t want her as a guest and so on …


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[Parmy]

They should have kicked her out, the vibe just wont be the same now.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

They should have kicked her out, the vibe just wont be the same now.

She could easily find herself being marginalised !!

Fingers crossed


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

They should have kicked her out, the vibe just wont be the same now.

I agree

[bots]

i just don't see the point in BB anymore if this is how they react to people being people

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bots

i just don't see the point in BB anymore if this is how they react to people being people

They are just an arm of activists now

Its so sad to see a series die like this

Ironically on TV!

[romeofahey]

I can only imagine how Zelah felt in that moment. The fact that people are quick to empathise with Caroline over him is very telling

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by romeofahey

I can only imagine how Zelah felt in that moment. The fact that people are quick to empathise with Caroline over him is very telling

And more than a little worrying


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[Maru]

Originally Posted by romeofahey

I can only imagine how Zelah felt in that moment. The fact that people are quick to empathise with Caroline over him is very telling

Caroline has been making subtle digs for several episodes now that could've been interpreted as innocent. It's finally this one that got through the filter

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Maru

Caroline has been making subtle digs for several episodes now that could've been interpreted as innocent. It's finally this one that got through the filter

Exactly


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[Talulabelle]

Originally Posted by romeofahey

I can only imagine how Zelah felt in that moment. The fact that people are quick to empathise with Caroline over him is very telling

Can't we empathise with both for different reasons? I do.

[romeofahey]

Originally Posted by Talulabelle

Can't we empathise with both for different reasons? I do.

Sure, if that’s how you feel that means I wasn’t talking about you.

[Benjamin]

Caroline has just sealed her fate of being evicted next week.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Caroline has just sealed her fate of being evicted next week.

Plus she’s buggered up a ton of after show work- who will want someone as a guest with her views in this day and age ?


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