[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting some find watching a normally placid guy lose his temper as good viewing

…if Marcus was normally placid by nature then he wouldn’t have acted so strongly and so hostile…he’s ‘normally’ coasting along and hoping his ‘romantic’ attachment will hold him steady but Farida is shaking them up and his reaction was particularly the thing of interest…please stop with the ‘interesting some find watching…’…snidely remarks because it could equally be said …interesting that some fans of Elsa are defending Marcus when there are obvious red flags in his rage concern being about himself…no such rage or emotion when Elsa was being downvoted in the last task…please stop because it’s not ‘interesting’ at all, to see how easy it was to shake those character aspects out…anyway, enough, this is so draining…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…if Marcus was normally placid by nature then he wouldn’t have acted so strongly and so hostile…he’s ‘normally’ coasting along and hoping his ‘romantic’ attachment will hold him steady but Farida is shaking them up and his reaction was particularly the thing of interest…please stop with the ‘interesting some find watching…’…snidely remarks because it could equally be said …interesting that some fans of Elsa are defending Marcus when there are obvious red flags in his rage concern being about himself…no such rage or emotion when Elsa was being downvoted in the last task…please stop because it’s not ‘interesting’ at all, to see how easy it was to shake those character aspects out…anyway, enough, this is so draining…

He presumably knows that everyone hates showmances so I don’t know how that works

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting some find watching a normally placid guy lose his temper as good viewing

More interesting than watching a fake showmance, Elsa singing, the snug crew just sitting together, Tate reading a bible etc. Another 4 weeks of that would have been even more dire.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He presumably knows that everyone hates showmances so I don’t know how that works

You think that, but we’ve had a showmance in nearly every ITV season so far - of that Jordan won, Chris and JoJo/Nathan and BP made the final week.

Some people love them (not sure why, but they do lol).

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He presumably knows that everyone hates showmances so I don’t know how that works

…well no, not everyone does hate showmances…thats obvious from how many showmances are actually quite popular and hoped for with many…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You think that, but we’ve had a showmance in nearly every ITV season so far - of that Jordan won, Chris and JoJo/Nathan and BP made the final week.

Some people love them (not sure why, but they do lol).

…and Josie Gibson won and she spent her stay under the duvet with John James by and large…

…anyway, I’m not doing this today…

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…and Josie Gibson won and she spent her stay under the duvet with John James by and large…

…anyway, I’m not doing this today…

I never get the appeal of a showmance. It’s rarely genuine, and I don’t want to watch people kissing and cuddling all day.

[Shaun]

It's tough because as a housemate I think I like her... but in this instance it is effectively just production interference and she's gone in to deliberately stir things up in a formulaic manner. Not even half an hour had passed before she was telling people what they need to do to come across better...

I appreciate that that can create conflict and intrigue, but at the same time it's just inorganic and not really that interesting to watch.

I do however enjoy her complete sense of delusion. Talking about her fans, taking Sam's mentioning of her being "like meeting a celebrity" to heart, bestowing everyone with life advice and how to make it far in the show when she was evicted first and does nothing else but sit and eat all day

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I never get the appeal of a showmance. It’s rarely genuine, and I don’t want to watch people kissing and cuddling all day.

…I mean, I get that a completely 'contained and unnatural' environment like the house can accelerate feelings or distort them or whatever…?…but those are things that for me, can be explored once the house stay is over…anything that's real will stay and then can be developed…I completely agree with Farida is an experience that leaves so much nit experienced by absorbing in a romance/certainly from a BB fan view as we want to actually get to know individuals…so far as Marcus goes, for me, this is not a believable romance in his feelings as it was all too quick and he engaged in that as well yet has completely been overlooked and Elsa taking most/virtually all if the critic…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

It's tough because as a housemate I think I like her... but in this instance it is effectively just production interference and she's gone in to deliberately stir things up in a formulaic manner. Not even half an hour had passed before she was telling people what they need to do to come across better...

I appreciate that that can create conflict and intrigue, but at the same time it's just inorganic and not really that interesting to watch.

I do however enjoy her complete sense of delusion. Talking about her fans, taking Sam's mentioning of her being "like meeting a celebrity" to heart, bestowing everyone with life advice and how to make it far in the show when she was evicted first and does nothing else but sit and eat all day

…does she eat much…?… I hadn’t noticed tbh…


…EDiT:…and I do get your points because your focus/summarising is of Farida…it’s the constant inferences of fans themselves whose views don’t align and the lack of acceptance of that…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

100%, I agree with all this post.

It seems sadly false people are preferred to genuine ones now.
In order to be entertained.
I can't bear false people.

Ditto

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting some find watching a normally placid guy lose his temper as good viewing

Tbf, arguments are apart of Big Brother.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…if Marcus was normally placid by nature then he wouldn’t have acted so strongly and so hostile…he’s ‘normally’ coasting along and hoping his ‘romantic’ attachment will hold him steady but Farida is shaking them up and his reaction was particularly the thing of interest…please stop with the ‘interesting some find watching…’…snidely remarks because it could equally be said …interesting that some fans of Elsa are defending Marcus when there are obvious red flags in his rage concern being about himself…no such rage or emotion when Elsa was being downvoted in the last task…please stop because it’s not ‘interesting’ at all, to see how easy it was to shake those character aspects out…anyway, enough, this is so draining…

Marcus just lost his temper is all.

Was it over something stupid? Yes, but I don't think it was so bad that it's a red flag for any romantic relationships that he might have.

We all have lost our temper over stupid stuff, it's just we're lucky that we're not being filmed on Big Brother.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Marcus just lost his temper is all.

Was it over something stupid? Yes, but I don't think it was so bad that it's a red flag for any romantic relationships that he might have.

We all have lost our temper over stupid stuff, it's just we're lucky that we're not being filmed on Big Brother.

It’s more the way he went for Elsa in his temper. Like when she was talking to Caroline, he got all paranoid for no reason and lashed out at her. Even when Caroline explained she wasn’t saying anything about him he still was annoyed at Elsa (when she hasn’t done anything wrong).

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s more the way he went for Elsa in his temper. Like when she was talking to Caroline, he got all paranoid for no reason and lashed out at her. Even when Caroline explained she wasn’t saying anything about him he still was annoyed at Elsa (when she hasn’t done anything wrong).

I understand that, hence why I do think that Elsa was in the right in the argument.

If anything he came across as someone that needs to act his age tbh, because he was reminding me more of a child rather than someone who's dangerous for Elsa to be around.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Marcus just lost his temper is all.

Was it over something stupid? Yes, but I don't think it was so bad that it's a red flag for any romantic relationships that he might have.

We all have lost our temper over stupid stuff, it's just we're lucky that we're not being filmed on Big Brother.

Originally Posted by Benjamin

It’s more the way he went for Elsa in his temper. Like when she was talking to Caroline, he got all paranoid for no reason and lashed out at her. Even when Caroline explained she wasn’t saying anything about him he still was annoyed at Elsa (when she hasn’t done anything wrong).

…yeah that’s it really, Mock…Ben has responded and there is very little to add…it’s how he focused that temper loss on Elsa, when she hadn’t played any part in creating anything…he chose to mark her the focus of his anger…as a female, I find that quite concerning because he knows that she’s quite non confrontational and a lover/not a fighter as it were…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah that’s it really, Mock…Ben has responded and there is very little to add…it’s how he focused that temper loss on Elsa, when she hadn’t played any part in creating anything…he chose to mark her the focus of his anger…as a female, I find that quite concerning because he knows that she’s quite non confrontational and a lover/not a fighter as it were…

Oh I 100% agree that his response was daft, I actually do hope that he apologizes to her about it tbh.

It's just he is a bit like myself I suppose, I can lose my temper worse than Marcus as I can get quite loud.

Which obviously can look really bad on a Show like Big Brother, especially towards a Housemate like Elsa.

I honestly don't believe that Marcus is a bad person, ITV don't really allow truly awful people on their version I personally feel.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Oh I 100% agree that his response was daft, I actually do hope that he apologizes to her about it tbh.

It's just he is a bit like myself I suppose, I can lose my temper worse than Marcus as I can get quite loud.

Which obviously can look really bad on a Show like Big Brother, especially towards a Housemate like Elsa.

I honestly don't believe that Marcus is a bad person, ITV don't really allow truly awful people on their version I personally feel.

…’bad person’…isn’t what I’m saying, though…what you’re saying about yourself is that ‘you have a tendency…’…and that’s something we know about ourselves in any aspect of our character traits, that we have a tendency…?..which takes me in a full circle of what he displayed/not only with the hostility of his reaction but where it was directed etc…doesn’t indicate someone who is normally placid by nature …he hasn’t had anyone really question his part in the ‘romance’ or him and how his personality may be being portrayed…and when he does, this first ‘challenge’ as it were…and he completely raged and raged toward Elsa, who had done nothing and who any such thoughts would equally cause her to question herself…(…which she didn’t, she said to heck with them all/this is about us…)..that to me is a ‘red flag’ to consider if considering a romantic relationship…with anyone, not just Marcus…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…’bad person’…isn’t what I’m saying, though…what you’re saying about yourself is that ‘you have a tendency…’…and that’s something we know about ourselves in any aspect of our character traits, that we have a tendency…?..which takes me in a full circle of what he displayed/not only with the hostility of his reaction but where it was directed etc…doesn’t indicate someone who is normally placid by nature …he hasn’t had anyone really question his part in the ‘romance’ or him and how his personality may be being portrayed…and when he does, this first ‘challenge’ as it were…and he completely raged and raged toward Elsa, who had done nothing and who any such thoughts would equally cause her to question herself…(…which she didn’t, she said to heck with them all/this is about us…)..that to me is a ‘red flag’ to consider if considering a romantic relationship…with anyone, not just Marcus…

Fair enough, I do see where you're coming from.

[Cherie]

I don't know why you would find someone who puts their foot in their gob every time they open their mouth boring, but each to their own

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…to give the Pringles a chance to repopulate on the outside world…Christmas wouldn’t be Christmas without those Pringles a-popping…

Yeah she never stops eating.

[Beso]

She needs to stop talking to peopke 2 inches from their faces.

Or take the robe off so she can hear better.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Yeah she never stops eating.

I think she is looking to be the next face of Walkers Crisps

[ebandit]

....................'the queen is back!'.........................even if i had not known how annoying farida was 1st time around i would want her 'gone!'

Mark L

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…well no, not everyone does hate showmances…thats obvious from how many showmances are actually quite popular and hoped for with many…

Well judging by this forum .. I’d suggest showmances are definitely frowned upon in here .