[joeysteele]

I like George.
I'd be content if he came through to win.

[Vanessa]

I'd rather he won than Karen.

[Livia]

I doubt Karen's had that much experience. I mean, I danced as a child no one in their right mind would call me a trained dancer. Loads of people dance as children. Someone who's danced in a wide variety of shows in the West End and someone who's been a good enough dancer as a kid to star in Billy Elliot.... it's hardly the same thing as going to dance classes as a child.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

I doubt Karen's had that much experience. I mean, I danced as a child no one in their right mind would call me a trained dancer. Loads of people dance as children. Someone who's danced in a wide variety of shows in the West End and someone who's been a good enough dancer as a kid to star in Billy Elliot.... it's hardly the same thing as going to dance classes as a child.

you danced as a child, you're also a RINGER then

[Zizu]

AI Overview




Former England footballer Karen Carney had significant childhood dance experience, training in various styles like street, hip-hop, disco, and ballroom from toddlerhood until age 15, when she chose football, but this background contributed to her agility and impressed viewers on Strictly Come Dancing in 2025, where she excelled despite not training in Latin/Ballroom recently. Her prior training gave her rhythm and confidence, though she had to relearn fundamentals for the show, finding joy and a return to competitive feeling in the ballroom.

[Zizu]

Karen Carney

Details of Her Dance Background:

Early Start: Carney began dancing as a toddler, attending dance clubs and competitions.

Styles: She trained in diverse genres, including street, hip-hop, disco, rock 'n' roll, and slow dancing.

Intensive Training: Around age 12, she trained at Steptoes Dance School multiple times a week.

The Choice: At 15, she decided to focus on football, leaving dance behind.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Karen Carney

Details of Her Dance Background:

Early Start: Carney began dancing as a toddler, attending dance clubs and competitions.

Styles: She trained in diverse genres, including street, hip-hop, disco, rock 'n' roll, and slow dancing.

Intensive Training: Around age 12, she trained at Steptoes Dance School multiple times a week.

The Choice: At 15, she decided to focus on football, leaving dance behind.

Slow dancing? That's a genre I've never heard of. Sounds as made up as the majority of the rest of this information. She didn't go to stage school, she's never danced professionally and she's never starred in the West End. Playing Billy Elliot like Lewis calls for classical training which gives a grounding for all kinds of dance. Ask Darcy Bussell. We all know Amber's credentials.

I danced until I was 12 or 13 like lots of little girls. I don't consider myself a trained dancer, that would be stupid. And frankly, calling her a "lying turdess" is too strong for my taste....

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Slow dancing? That's a genre I've never heard of. Sounds as made up as the majority of the rest of this information. She didn't go to stage school, she's never danced professionally and she's never starred in the West End. Playing Billy Elliot like Lewis calls for classical training which gives a grounding for all kinds of dance. Ask Darcy Bussell. We all know Amber's credentials.

I danced until I was 12 or 13 like lots of little girls. I don't consider myself a trained dancer, that would be stupid. And frankly, calling her a "lying turdess" is too strong for my taste....

We have history

She ruins a couple of football games a week and has done since it became the norm to hire ‘box tickers’ - she ticks about 5

Incidentally why claim it’s made up ?

Because it doesn’t fit in with your ideals ?


It all sounds like she was a pretty serious dancer if we’re being honest here and the proof is in the pudding .. so she has all the basics down plus she obviously had a feel for dancing and natural timing ..

As regards the made up slow dancing
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Ai overview

Slow dancing is a simple, intimate partner dance focusing on swaying to slow music, often called the "hug and sway," involving basic steps like forward-and-back movement with weight transfer, commonly using a "fox trot" or "foxy" style for beginners, incorporating a gentle sway and rotation, and is popular at social events like weddings for its relaxed, romantic feel poo

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We have history

She ruins a couple of football games a week and has done since it became the norm to hire ‘box tickers’ - she ticks about 5

Incidentally why claim it’s made up ?

Because it doesn’t fit in with your ideals ?


It all sounds like she was a pretty serious dancer if we’re being honest here and the proof is in the pudding .. so she has all the basics down plus she obviously had a feel for dancing and natural timing ..

As regards the made up slow dancing
.::

Ai overview

Slow dancing is a simple, intimate partner dance focusing on swaying to slow music, often called the "hug and sway," involving basic steps like forward-and-back movement with weight transfer, commonly using a "fox trot" or "foxy" style for beginners, incorporating a gentle sway and rotation, and is popular at social events like weddings for its relaxed, romantic feel poo

Slow dancing is something you do at a school disco. It is not a genre, it's not something you take classes in. You know that though, right? You're not even making it up, you're getting AI to do that for you.

I am aware of your history with Karen Carney. I've read some of the things you've said about her. Try to let your hatred go, this is not football. Your misogyny will not wash here.

Also, FFS.... The proof is NOT in the pudding. The proof of the pudding IS IN THE EATING.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

The proof is NOT in the pudding. The proof of the pudding IS IN THE EATING.

Ai overview



The proof is in the pudding is an expression that means the value, quality, or truth of something must be judged based on direct experience with it—or on its results.

The expression is an alteration of an older saying that makes the meaning a bit clearer: the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

Slow dancing is something you do at a school disco. It is not a genre, it's not something you take classes in
.

You seem to have conveniently forgotten that she also trained in other genres, including street, hip-hop, disco, rock 'n' roll etc


Ai overview

What "Slow Dancing" Refers To:
A Dance Style: A simple, romantic, "hug-and-sway" partner dance where minimal footwork allows for conversation

[Zizu]

Karen Carney believes her dancing background gave her the twinkle toes that helped her become a Lionesses legend.

Here, she tells her story of how she went from a disco diva to a wizard on the wing:

“I started dancing when I was just a toddler because my older sister went to a dance club.

“It started out as just something to do but I loved it. It was mainly me just jigging about but I went every week.

“It wasn’t until I moved to Steptoes Dance School in Halesowen when I was 12 that things got more serious and I started going three or four times a week. It was there that I started to compete in some big events.

“I enjoyed football when I was a kid and had loads of kickabouts, but I didn’t join my first club until I was 11. Until then, it was all about dancing for me. We did loads of different routines and genres of music; street dancing, hip-hop, disco, rock ‘n roll, slow dancing, team dances, everything.

[Zizu]

The lying little turdess !!


The TNT and ITV pundit, from Solihull, said she had done "a little bit of hip-hop" as a youngster but that her only other dance experience was in nightclubs, which might have involved a little breakdancing.
"I think the breakdancing was when we used to go out on nights out with the team and I was forced into dancing-off with other people in the nightclub," she said.

[arista]

I was Shocked Lewis went


He was good

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

I was Shocked Lewis went


He was good

Maybe he didn’t tick enough boxes

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

I was Shocked Lewis went


He was good

yup, this former women's footballer should've went, who was bottom of the leaderboard

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yup, this former women's footballer should've went, who was bottom of the leaderboard

Or how about if people weren't giving out sympathy votes to Balvinder, we might have got rid of the person that's been in the bottom two five times, and soon to be her sixth this week coming.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Merry Mockmas

Or how about if people weren't giving out sympathy votes to Balvinder, we might have got rid of the person that's been in the bottom two five times, and soon to be her sixth this week coming.

Why would you suggest everyone who gives votes to those you're not keen on is a sympathy vote? I voted for Karen and Bal this week because I genuinely thought Balvinder has improved from her beginner status and is now quite impressive. I read in the paper yesterday a quote from a Strictly fan who posted while the show was on, "Oh look! There's Amber doing her day job". The article said producers were now clearly aware that the audience will not let professional dancers win. I get that. And yet the suggestion is that if the two professionals end up in the dance off, people must be showering sympathy on someone else. I said from the start the professionals will not be allowed to win and I really don't mind which of the non-dancers take the glitter ball. . No sympathy involved.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why would you suggest everyone who gives votes to those you're not keen on is a sympathy vote? I voted for Karen and Bal this week because I genuinely thought Balvinder has improved from her beginner status and is now quite impressive. I read in the paper yesterday a quote from a Strictly fan who posted while the show was on, "Oh look! There's Amber doing her day job". The article said producers were now clearly aware that the audience will not let professional dancers win. I get that. And yet the suggestion is that if the two professionals end up in the dance off, people must be showering sympathy on someone else. I said from the start the professionals will not be allowed to win and I really don't mind which of the non-dancers take the glitter ball. . No sympathy involved.

People were openly admitting on DS and Social Media that they were giving spare votes to Balvinder this week because she cried, and they felt sorry for her because of it.

But some of these people that did that particular vote are moaning about Karen and George beating Lewis, when most of their fans didn't go around giving spare votes to Balvinder.

Basically anybody that voted for Balvinder to stay but then moaning about Lewis leaving need to take accountability for their vote, rather than moaning about Karen being more popular with the public on the night.

[arista]

Lewis Cope

[arista]

You are so Right
Nicky

[Zizu]

A few interesting snippets .



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Ginge quickly covered up by saying there were 13 sweets, and Kelly ate the first of the extra three, suggesting that he and Aitch only ate one extra sweet each (the trio split 10 sweets between them and it was Aitch’s idea).

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Vogue exclaimed, ‘Snakes in the camp!’ before she added, ‘I’m kind of surprised at Kelly. Oh my god! That’s desperate… I’d never do that.’
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Kelly said: ‘It was a joint idea.
‘People weren’t sharing the contraband so that butter should have gone into a nice bowl of rice and shared out between everybody, and it didn’t.
‘Shona ate the lot, so the minute she ate the lot, I was like, right? Every man took every man for himself, and when we saw those milk bottles, you know, it’s very hard to divide 19 milk bottles between people.

—-/

Jack Osbourne said : "The thievery in this camp! When they got the milk bottles, they ate three of them before bringing them back."

[Zizu]

Interesting

:::

When Ginge tries to argue that it was "only fair" as they won the challenge to win the treats, Aitch jumps in.

"It didn't go down like that. We thought, 'How are we going to split 14 between 10 people.' And then Kelly went, 'Right - go on then.'

"She put one in her mouth and so we had three and there were ten left which we brought back to camp."


Ginge then adds: "But Kelly is the blame for it, I will say that. You'll see when you get out!" to which Martin says: "If you eat something, you're to blame ! “

[AnnieK]

Wrong thread Zizu, this is a Strictly thread not IAC

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Candy Annie Cane

Wrong thread Zizu, this is a Strictly thread not IAC

Ahhh apologies