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Old 30-11-2025, 09:14 AM #1
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…Whenfollowing the thread and everything that’s been said, there is nothing personal at all…it feels as though you’re ’imagining and encouraging conflicts that just aren’t there…’….anyway I’m off, this is just silly to continue…

Have you read through the other threads I mentioned ?

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…I mean and to be blunt, Zizu…you’ve stated yourself that you seem to have formed an opinion on a show that you’ve watched for 20 minutes/or a similar very short time and have dismissed it’s whole concept and only gained interest because of the celebrities/not because of the show in it’s format as such…that’s an opinion and thought that many, many people will be in line with because it’s one of the most successful and watched shows on the BBC, it’s become a phenomenon…not just in the UK but internationally as well……

I refer to #34

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Incidentally is there a reason why you make everything so difficult or personal ??


I was just speculating what the beeb maybe thinking after the unprecedented success of the celeb version
Sorry but it seems like you made it personal. Ben has explained why they won’t cancel the normal as it’s a ratings winner, people like watching the normal one and it will more likely get more viewers now the celeb one has finished.

People like the drama.
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Sorry but it seems like you made it personal. Ben has explained why they won’t cancel the normal as it’s a ratings winner, people like watching the normal one and it will more likely get more viewers now the celeb one has finished.

People like the drama.

It’s not really just this thread


What ever the topic it where I offer an opinion or ask a perfectly reasonable question within minutes I seem to have my back against the wall having to justify this or that or whatever to him

I accept that they may keep the original version but times are hard and the Beeb are under constant pressure to justify certain programs and to make as much money as possible .. so I just figured they may just run with the golden goose option .
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It’s not really just this thread


What ever the topic it where I offer an opinion or ask a perfectly reasonable question within minutes I seem to have my back against the wall having to justify this or that or whatever to him

I accept that they may keep the original version but times are hard and the Beeb are under constant pressure to justify certain programs and to make as much money as possible .. so I just figured they may just run with the golden goose option .
They would be crazy to get rid of the normal one with those ratings. They are both making the bbc money so why get rid of one when both are like in the top 20 of program ratings of the year?
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They would be crazy to get rid of the normal one with those ratings. They are both making the bbc money so why get rid of one when both are like in the top 20 of program ratings of the year?

Fair comment .. but if the celeb version gets twice as many viewers plus amazing exposure in the media ( fabulous free advertising) they may just be wondering ..

After all both presumably take ages to prepare for and rehearse tasks, both will require new ideas to avoid getting stale .
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It’s not really just this thread


What ever the topic it where I offer an opinion or ask a perfectly reasonable question within minutes I seem to have my back against the wall having to justify this or that or whatever to him
That’s an absolute lie.

It’s the occasional thread where I don’t agree with your opinion. And just like in here, I don’t make it personal or put your back up against the wall, you do that yourself because you can’t handle me disagreeing with you and offering options/facts as to why.

I’ve said before, if you can’t deal with people challenging your opinion then probably best not to make a thread.
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That’s an absolute lie.

It’s the occasional thread where I don’t agree with your opinion. And just like in here, I don’t make it personal or put your back up against the wall, you do that yourself because you can’t handle me disagreeing with you and offering options/facts as to why.

I’ve said before, if you can’t deal with people challenging your opinion then probably best not to make a thread.

Well it certainly FEELS like you always seem to disagree or question or find fault .. just for the sake of it or ‘whatever’ .


Challenging the odd opinion is one thing but challenging/questioning everything is simply tiresome

Favourite Spice girl / Richard’s winnings/ Would you not watch if a certain celebrity was featured / … threads come to mind off the top of my head

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no traitors season will ever be the same because it's down to the personalities of the players both individually and collectively, so i don't think the premise that a celebrity version is better is accurate
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