[bananarama]

Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner

No. The public per say did not choose the winner. Mass voters distorting poularity chose the winner. It happens with all TV phone based competitions. True poularity is not the requirmenet for a win.......Those with more money than sense decide the winners.......

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo
People trying to make excuses fro Twins not winning I think.

Brian won, with a massive lead. People voted for the right housemate and handed the crown to the most entertaining housemate. He was the star of the show and deserved it. You can't say he won just bcause bookies voted multiple times for him - He recived 60.3% of the vote! The public chose the winner

The bookies still could have voted multiple times for him. in fact - its something that I now believe.

Its also funny how the phone lines for the twins seemed jammed to just about everybody while Brian , who was getting more and more votes , had a perfectly working phone line.

And to say its making excuses is a cheap way to undermine what could be some serious issues on hand.

[Jay]

Originally posted by Matt
And I tried to vote for the twins twice last night but couldn't get through.

I couldn't get through to Brians either so everyone was the same.

[andybigbro]

When i was Voting for Brian the phone lines were Jammed Also but i kept trying and trying

Please GET OVER IT

I though that people would be more mature and just accept it

can you be happy for him


Geez

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by bananarama

No. The public per say did not choose the winner. Mass voters distorting poularity chose the winner. It happens with all TV phone based competitions. True poularity is not the requirmenet for a win.......Those with more money than sense decide the winners.......

If Twins fans wanted m to win, they should have voted - They clearly didn't vote enough and Brian came out on top. 60.3% is a high percentage and it celarly wasnt just those who massed voted that got him to first place. More people liked Brian, more people voted for Brian, Brian won, end of - IMO.

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro


Please GET OVER IT

No , we are free to discuss this as much as we want. Had the voting gone the other way - im sure you would have had something to say on the matter.

The fact that you dont want others to discuss your golden boys means of victory shows that you may need to get over it .

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo

If Twins fans wanted m to win, they should have voted - They clearly didn't vote enough and Brian came out on top. 60.3% is a high percentage and it celarly wasnt just those who massed voted that got him to first place. More people liked Brian, more people voted for Brian, Brian won, end of - IMO.

In regards to that - I believe your 50% right.

More people voted for Brian yes - that much is obvious , but i firmly do not believe that more people liked Brian to the twins.

Some serious block voting was going on.

And I dont say that with bias , as my favourite was Ziggy .

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu

The bookies still could have voted multiple times for him. in fact - its something that I now believe.

Its also funny how the phone lines for the twins seemed jammed to just about everybody while Brian , who was getting more and more votes , had a perfectly working phone line.

And to say its making excuses is a cheap way to undermine what could be some serious issues on hand.

The phone lines for Brian were also jammed - So I don't think people can use that excuse.

I personally think it is making excuses, but I expected it after Twins were fav's and because of all the hullabaloo over phone in competitions this year.

Also, can I just add that the only source we have of this is the C4 forums - hardly a good source.

[Stu]

Anyone know what the source from the C4 forums was?

[bananarama]

Originally posted by andybigbro
When i was Voting for Brian the phone lines were Jammed Also but i kept trying and trying

Please GET OVER IT

I though that people would be more mature and just accept it

can you be happy for him


Geez

It's not a question of being happy for Brian. Brian is not being critised as none of the housemates are responsible for any potentially corrupt practices.

What matters is the credibilty of TV competitions. It is unfair to both viewers and contestants if the results are based on corrupt practices by those with a finacial interest to massage the results.......I am not saying that has happened. I don't know. But if the accusation is out there then the credibility of it needs to be examined...

[Stu]

Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is gonna vote for you and you wont need to.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other

[andybigbro]

It rediculous really and quite sad...Its a TV Gameshow its not then End of the World, Brian Won he got the most votes and therefore he won, The Twisn are ahppy he won, and as twins fans you should too

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu
Voting really needs to be stressed more next year. Make it easy , make it cheap , and get EVERYONE voting. Get rid of the assumptions that someone else is going to vote for you and you wont need to.

Why should they change the voting?

If you dont like the voting, how it is then dont vote

[supercharlieb]

I personally believed that there was a huge upset last night....

The polls on the internet were ALL in favour of the twins.... i mean ALL!!!

its the bookies who decide....

People who placed bets on Brian and voted for him could make lots of money, there was even a bet worth 48K!!!! that guys going to be very rich!!!

the bookies didn't literally cheat but they manipulated the public into voting for Brian...

as one bookie said, 'if the twins had won, I'd be out of business'

[sl3ptsolong]

well personally i voted for brian in the last 20 mins about 10 times and its the only time i ever voted this year. There will have been thousands in my shoes pulling the vote up it just swung in brians favour lol get over it people

[Stu]

Originally posted by andybigbro

Why should they change the voting?

If you dont like the voting, how it is then dont vote

A. I never voted anyway. Not once.
B. This is not an attack on Brian.
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo

I don't think they can make it any cheaper - They cut it in have from last years and gave max. 10p to charity.

The best thing they could do is scrap the public vote and go to BBUS style and get the housemates to nominate and to evict each other

Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

[andybigbro]

Originally posted by Stu

A. I never voted anyway. Not once.
B. This is not an attack on Brian.
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

They did make it cheaper this year though

I dont think it can go any cheaper

[Amy]

Originally posted by Stu
C. They should change the voting because a very , very small percentage of viewers turn out to vote in the majority of evictions.

I don't like the voting, have to be honest. I'd prefer text voting also? And it should be cheaper! But I never voted at all this year.. The last time I voted in a BB was BB2.

[Stu]

A lot of it hinges on the housemates too. We need housemates we WANT to vote for.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Stu

Short term risk = long term sucess.

Plug the voting for all its worth , bring back text voting and interactive voting , scrap the charity [its nice and all] and toy with the idea of making the votes free. Their are other ways to make more money with the show.

All this , of course , requires a show that viewers will feel compelled to want to vote on.

I don't think they should make voting free. All them teeny-boppers would be voting non-stop 24/7 and it would make the show worse.

[andybigbro]

The Voting shouldnt be free - then people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote
you could vote a million times and it would still be free that is pointless

[Stu]

Originally posted by Arneldo

I don't think they should make voting free. All them teeny-boppers would be voting non-stop 24/7 and it would make the show worse.

The Voting shouldnt be free - then people would vote vote vote vote vote vote vote and vote

One vote per one household.

[supercharlieb]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=70812


doesn't this shout something out to you?

something isn't right here..