[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy
I know, Im so so sick of hearing about "Global Warming" its scaremongering

In respsonse to that, shouldnt people care more about are world, then we wouldnt have this issues.

And I think the advise given is generally to help society.

[Scarlett.]

but there is no need for them to tell us about it in every news report

[Legend]

I don't care about them telling us what to do because it's so easy to simply ignore them which I and the majority of other people do. However, when they are trying to dictate what we eat, what we do etc that annoys me ... I've heard they are trying to make the slices of bread thinner because we are eating too much of it and there is something in it that's not good for you .... ... trying to dictate in ways like this annoys me. If this was the case then I'd just double up on the slices ... they are really solving nothing. Though I don't even know how true this is.

There was something else also about toothpaste but I've completely forgot that story.

At the end of the day, if we want to eat, drink and kill ourselves in the process then let us do it. Fair enough, make us aware of what is potentially harmful but then let us decide if we want to do something about it or not ... just don't dictate.

[Tom]

We are supposed to have free will so yes. My biggest rant about the Government telling us what to do is regarding Global Warming. I disagree with all of the global warming stuff as well. I'm not entirely sure its even happening and its not just the Earths natural weather patterns as something like this has happened thousands of years ago. I am not going around switching off everything by the wall to save energy. Its not the Government that are paying for the electricity. Me turning my TV off by the wall is hardly going to stop carbon emissions especialyl with other larger countries not really caring and just cancelling out any work we are doing over here. Yes, if everyone joins together and does their bit then it can be reduced but the reality is it is the big businesses that are consuming most power. At weekends, power consumption levels are down significantly. And until the Government leads by example, ie actually turning their own things off and turning off the lights in the Houses of Parliament then I'm not doing anything.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Legend
I don't care about them telling us what to do because it's so easy to simply ignore them which I and the majority of other people do. However, when they are trying to dictate what we eat, what we do etc that annoys me ... I've heard they are trying to make the slices of bread thinner because we are eating too much of it and there is something in it that's not good for you .... ... trying to dictate in ways like this annoys me. If this was the case then I'd just double up on the slices ... they are really solving nothing. Though I don't even know how true this is.

There was something else also about toothpaste but I've completely forgot that story.

At the end of the day, if we want to eat, drink and kill ourselves in the process then let us do it. Fair enough, make us aware of what is potentially harmful but then let us decide if we want to do something about it or not ... just don't dictate.

Or just buy unsliced bread and slice it yourself. Its our lives and we should be free to live it however we want to. Yes, they can advise us on what to do which can be done by not forcing these things at us and letting us make our own decisions but ITV News headlining with Government warnings that sausages can lead to bowel cancer (which actually happened a few months ago) is a little much.

[Captain.Remy]

On that question, the government annoys me (and not only me) about smoking. Ok it's fine to tell the bad sides but let me do what I want, I feel like a murderer sometimes ! I want to smoke then I smoke, no matter what I do represent, they are like 'Remy you represent this and that, you should not smoke", it drives me mad. Let me do what I want !!!!!!!!!!

[Shaun]

I agree with Remy on the smoking ban - although I prefer pubs and clubs with no smokers inside now, it should ultimately be the decision of the proprietor as to whether or not smokers are allowed inside.

And nobody can play the "I have a right to clean air" card, because if you wanted clean air, you can sod off outside. Smokers have a right to not be forced outside.

On the whole global warming thing, I don't think the government are "forcing" us to do anything; they're just recommending it Sure, it's helpful to turn off the light switches and all that jazz, but it's not like I'm being forced to...it's just my choice. And as for them not turning off lights at the HoP - I think it's open all the time, and they need the lights on for security reasons really...

[Ruth]

I am totally against the smoking ban. It should be up to the manager or landlord of every establishment whether or not smoking is allowed.

Our free will is being taken away from us, bit by bit.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Ruth
I am totally against the smoking ban. It should be up to the manager or landlord of every establishment whether or not smoking is allowed.

Our free will is being taken away from us, bit by bit.

Yes exactly, smoking was allowed in my college but the government voted a low against and now a law has been voted for the clubs, bars and restaurant. I can understand some people find it annoying to get smokers on a club but it's too far.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Shaun
On the whole global warming thing, I don't think the government are "forcing" us to do anything; they're just recommending it Sure, it's helpful to turn off the light switches and all that jazz, but it's not like I'm being forced to...it's just my choice. And as for them not turning off lights at the HoP - I think it's open all the time, and they need the lights on for security reasons really...

They are trying to force us. Its on TV, radio and billboards all of the time about how the government are saying you must switch electrics off by the wall, you must turn things off as you walk out of the room, you must only have on required heating etc.

[Dr43%er]

"but there is no need for them to tell us about it in every news report "

With some of the attitudes on here I would suggest they do need to keep telling us. Even if you don't care about global warming, do you care about money? Energy prices are going through the roof and so are the bills, or don't you pay them yet? I will put money on most of your attitudes changing about leaving lights on and the like if you paid the bills.

Do we agree that all workers have the right to work in a safe environment? To not be made ill by breathing in toxic fumes. Be they chemical fumes in a factory or smoke in a bar. Or should the bar staff go outside every time they want to breath? You won't get served very often.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Tom_

They are trying to force us. Its on TV, radio and billboards all of the time about how the government are saying you must switch electrics off by the wall, you must turn things off as you walk out of the room, you must only have on required heating etc.

But they aren't making you. Would you like to be living under water in 50 years! They are trying to protect our world, not dictate what we do.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
"but there is no need for them to tell us about it in every news report "

With some of the attitudes on here I would suggest they do need to keep telling us. Even if you don't care about global warming, do you care about money? Energy prices are going through the roof and so are the bills, or don't you pay them yet? I will put money on most of your attitudes changing about leaving lights on and the like if you paid the bills.

Do we agree that all workers have the right to work in a safe environment? To not be made ill by breathing in toxic fumes. Be they chemical fumes in a factory or smoke in a bar. Or should the bar staff go outside every time they want to breath? You won't get served very often.

Here here! Why should non-smokers suffer, when they deserve the right to bright natural air. Smokers however started smoking by choice, therefore shouldn't they make teh sacrifice of smoking outside.

And as I said in my previous post, we are the people that can help protect our environment.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Tom_

They are trying to force us. Its on TV, radio and billboards all of the time about how the government are saying you must switch electrics off by the wall, you must turn things off as you walk out of the room, you must only have on required heating etc.

There's a huge difference between that and actually completely enforcing us to do it. In that case, Ariel washing powder are a bunch of authoritarians for telling me to turn my Washing Machine down to 30 degrees.

And tbh, I just think you're using this as an excuse not to turn off light switches (etc.)

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Magic

Here here! Why should non-smokers suffer, when they deserve the right to bright natural air. Smokers however started smoking by choice, therefore shouldn't they make teh sacrifice of smoking outside.

And as I said in my previous post, we are the people that can help protect our environment.

There is no "right to bright natural air". By that logic, I have the right to be rich and gorgeous, but you don't see that happening.

Ultimately, bar-staff should work in whatever conditions the proprietor deems appropriate; if he/she is willing to allow smokers in his/her bar, then that's their decision - and if the workers don't like that, they can go elsewhere.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic

But they aren't making you. Would you like to be living under water in 50 years! They are trying to protect our world, not dictate what we do.

The water will rise, we will build over it, then what? when all the ice caps are gone, noting to worry about

[Dr43%er]

with that logic you would have to say people in acid production should not have protective clothing if their boss sees fit. If the employee does not like it they can go work somewhere else. Am i correct in thinking that?

[Magic]

Originally posted by Chewy

The water will rise, we will build over it, then what? when all the ice caps are gone, noting to worry about

Then What? Have you any idea of how much that will cost the world? Do you realise how many animals will die? How much the world will change. I dont really think you can say nothing to worry about, billions of pounds will be gone, people will die, disease will spread. I dont think you really understand the global Implications. What about LEDC's and other Sea Islands, can they afford to build over the water?

[MarkWaldorf]

I actually think the nagging needs to happen. No ones listening to the effects Global Warming will have on this Earth, they just believe "oh, we'll leave it for the for the future generation." Are they unaware that Global Warming will unfold on their children/grand children? No, because this world is selfish. Only those making this world a healthier place are aware of what's happening.

[Scarlett.]

Did you know Scientists are currently devloping cars that run on Salt Water as radiowaves burn it creating fuel?

Plus whatever we do the world wont change China is pumping out more smoke than the whole world put together

[Tom]

Originally posted by Chewy

The water will rise, we will build over it, then what? when all the ice caps are gone, noting to worry about

The media purposely miss out details to brainwash the public with false information. The world will not go underwater at all. Predictions show that water levels will rise 84m which is not a lot considering that most land around the world is at least 100m above sea level. Lets put that into perspective. The Blackpool tower is 158m tall and the foundations are a good few metres above sea level. Its also been proven that water levels will even out because of currents and the moon so they won't even rise 84m. Another thing which has been proven is that the UK will actually get colder rather than warmer.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Dr43%er
with that logic you would have to say people in acid production should not have protective clothing if their boss sees fit. If the employee does not like it they can go work somewhere else. Am i correct in thinking that?

That's quite a different scenario - that would involve direct contact with dangerous chemicals, and of course they have to wear protective clothing.

It's different, however, denying smokers the ability to stay inside your bar because of something which has been imposed by the state. Bar-staff should be well aware of the fact that, as is with any place, smokers may be smoking there and ultimately, though I personally agree that having smoke around me is horrible, they have every right to be there.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Tom_

The media purposely miss out details to brainwash the public with false information. The world will not go underwater at all. Predictions show that water levels will rise 84m which is not a lot considering that most land around the world is at least 100m above sea level. Lets put that into perspective. The Blackpool tower is 158m tall and the foundations are a good few metres above sea level. Its also been proven that water levels will even out because of currents and the moon so they won't even rise 84m. Another thing which has been proven is that the UK will actually get colder rather than warmer.

And what about the parts which are not 84 metres above sea level? I know I'm not.

[Lauren]

I wouldn't mind if the weren't so hypocritical. Red wine, it's good for us AND bad for us? Chocolate... good and bad? WHAT DO I DO!?

No comment on global warming.

[Dr43%er]

Are you saying people who work in bars have less rights?