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No I don't, because if the person didn't eat as much, and lost the weight, that wouldn't feed someone who doesn't have food in another country.
Never said it would, but it demonstrates a mentality. The mentality that they have to enable them to abuse the excess that our society provides.

It is like putting a bottle of water just out of the reach of a child dieing of thirst.

How do you think those starving millions feel when they see photos of people in the UK who are fat and overweight.... filled with enough food to feed entire starving family's?
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
What are you personally doing to help those millions of starving children in the world?
Currently? gaining the education that will better enable me to pursuit a path of work that will enable me to help those in need.
And fat people can do that too.
If they cared about other people, or even themselves they wouldn't be fat now would they.
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Do you feel guilty that you probably have more money than you need, a comfortable house and that there are millions of poor people in the world that can‘t even afford basic living conditions?

I don’t see why eating too much food should be any different to having too much money.

Why not give every cent you don’t ‘need’ away to some of those people if you really care so much?
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500 Canadian dollars?! That's like nearly 20p!! Are you sure you want to risk this much?

250 pounds about.... but then again everything in Canada is about 1/3rd or less the price it is in England so in terms of PPP the Canadian dollar is much stronger.
Cool. So you can buy a new car for $4500?!

And mars bars cost about 15p!?

How much for a can of beans?

What kind of car? Chocolate bars are usually 65 cents - 1$ and a can of beans depends on the type.
So not EVERYTHING is 1/3 as cheap- err, SO THERE!

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If they cared about other people, or even themselves they wouldn't be fat now would they.
If you cared so much, you'd give every cent you didn't need away- but you're not perfect.

Guess what: Nobody's perfect!
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No I don't, because if the person didn't eat as much, and lost the weight, that wouldn't feed someone who doesn't have food in another country.
How do you think those starving millions feel when they see photos of people in the UK who are fat and overweight.... filled with enough food to feed entire starving family's?
I don't think they really see photos of overweight people in the UK, and Americas wayyyy more obese than the UK so theyre more to blame.
Yes, theyre filled with food, but there is nothing they can do to really feed the starving families in other parts of the world.
Plus even now youve still not answered my other question.
Your so against fat people and not having respect for their bodies
but what about un-naturally skinny people, who let their body deteriorate
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Do you feel guilty that you probably have more money than you need, a comfortable house and that there are millions of poor people in the world that can‘t even afford basic living conditions?

I don’t see why eating too much food should be any different to having too much money.

Why not give every cent you don’t ‘need’ away to some of those people if you really care so much?
No because wealth is not a matter of necessity. Equality of wealth is communism, which would result in more starvation and oppression of the masses.

One can not have "too much" money as such a notion is imposible.... wealth is not zero sum... one haveing wealth does not take it away or restrict another from it. In fact it encourages others to gain it and the more wealthy people that exist in a society the more benifits that society enjoys, the stronger the economey grows and the more wealth that comes to lower-income individuals though virtue of that.

The wealthyer you are, the more you are actually helping.

Not the same as someone who is fat at all.
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Oh no.. not this 'fat' business again. Do you not seem to realise that there are other people such as anorexics and bullimics that also need treatment in the world, not just 'fat' people as you so kindly say? They too waste food. And fair enough its a sickness but dont be biased and blame it on one set of people. And if your so worried about these starving children go and do something like others have, you obviously care alot about them? x
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500 Canadian dollars?! That's like nearly 20p!! Are you sure you want to risk this much?

250 pounds about.... but then again everything in Canada is about 1/3rd or less the price it is in England so in terms of PPP the Canadian dollar is much stronger.
Cool. So you can buy a new car for $4500?!

And mars bars cost about 15p!?

How much for a can of beans?

What kind of car? Chocolate bars are usually 65 cents - 1$ and a can of beans depends on the type.
So not EVERYTHING is 1/3 as cheap- err, SO THERE!

In direct terms, no. In relative terms... yes.
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I don't believe we have a nude "fatty" magazine over here in the UK.
and i doubt she'll put on weight, more like LOSE it, cos of idiots calling her fat in the paper etcc

Funny how most of your posts are made up of calling bex fat :|
When she's not fat/
I agree tbh you do sound a tiny bit like a broken record
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I don't believe we have a nude "fatty" magazine over here in the UK.
and i doubt she'll put on weight, more like LOSE it, cos of idiots calling her fat in the paper etcc

Funny how most of your posts are made up of calling bex fat :|
When she's not fat/
I agree tbh you do sound a tiny bit like a broken record
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Then he started saying that the people that defend her weight, are probably fat themselves and take offence :|
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I don't believe we have a nude "fatty" magazine over here in the UK.
and i doubt she'll put on weight, more like LOSE it, cos of idiots calling her fat in the paper etcc

Funny how most of your posts are made up of calling bex fat :|
When she's not fat/
I agree tbh you do sound a tiny bit like a broken record
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Then he started saying that the people that defend her weight, are probably fat themselves and take offence :|
Pshh.. he dosent know what hes talking about! (take no offence) x
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Do you feel guilty that you probably have more money than you need, a comfortable house and that there are millions of poor people in the world that can‘t even afford basic living conditions?

I don’t see why eating too much food should be any different to having too much money.

Why not give every cent you don’t ‘need’ away to some of those people if you really care so much?
No because wealth is not a matter of necessity. Equality of wealth is communism, which would result in more starvation and oppression of the masses.

One can not have "too much" money as such a notion is imposible.... wealth is not zero sum... one haveing wealth does not take it away or restrict another from it. In fact it encourages others to gain it and the more wealthy people that exist in a society the more benifits that society enjoys, the stronger the economey grows and the more wealth that comes to lower-income individuals though virtue of that.

The wealthyer you are, the more you are actually helping.

Not the same as someone who is fat at all.
Exactly- you only help your own countries economy- not those living in poverty in other countries. You help the rich get richer.

How is that helping the people who really need it? How does you buying extra trainers- made in asia by workers for pennies help someone in Africa who is starving?

Your 'point' if any, is ridiculous.
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Xander of course i don't like fat people, any rational person shouldn't.
Any "normal" person wouldn't take into account a person's weight, you shouldn't judge a person based on there appearance alone.
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I don't think they really see photos of overweight people in the UK, and Americas wayyyy more obese than the UK so theyre more to blame.
They do, and I don't care what nationality.

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A good start would be just haveing the common morality not to abuse themselves as selfishly as they do in a world where there are hundreds of millions, if not billions who can't even benifit from the bare minimum.

But I also bet if they instead of buying all that extra food that they don't need... they saved up the money... they could feed and provide medical care to douzens of needy people.

But obviously those 3 extra big mac's a day are more important to them.
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I bet you spend money on stuff you don't need but just enjoy. Why not save that up and give it to charity before you go on at fat people spending it on extra food?
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Do you feel guilty that you probably have more money than you need, a comfortable house and that there are millions of poor people in the world that can‘t even afford basic living conditions?

I don’t see why eating too much food should be any different to having too much money.

Why not give every cent you don’t ‘need’ away to some of those people if you really care so much?
No because wealth is not a matter of necessity. Equality of wealth is communism, which would result in more starvation and oppression of the masses.

One can not have "too much" money as such a notion is imposible.... wealth is not zero sum... one haveing wealth does not take it away or restrict another from it. In fact it encourages others to gain it and the more wealthy people that exist in a society the more benifits that society enjoys, the stronger the economey grows and the more wealth that comes to lower-income individuals though virtue of that.

The wealthyer you are, the more you are actually helping.

Not the same as someone who is fat at all.
Exactly- you only help your own countries economy- not those living in poverty in other countries. You help the rich get richer.

How is that helping the people who really need it? How does you buying extra trainers- made in asia by workers for pennies help someone in Africa who is starving?

Your 'point' if any, is ridiculous.
This is a global market, nothing is isolated to "one nation". The richer you are, the more you consume. The more you consume, the more that is produced. The more that is produced the more people are employed. The more people employed the more income being distributed. The more income being distributed the higher amount of people raising their income. The moer people makeing more money, the more benifits provided to them and their family. This leads to the establishment of larger middle classes... which leads to more enshrined rights of workers and movements towards democracy, which leads to more open markets and the adoption of less restricted capitalism... which leads to heaver flow of income, which again leads to more distrubution and so on and so on.

The solution to the vast majority of the worlds problems rest in the market force. The west is where it is at beacuse of consumption... and these effects would be in full swing in many places if not for hinderences.

South east asia is a great example of where it succeeds... China for one. The poverty level in China is shrinking at a huge rate due to consumption and these trends are moveing accrost the world.
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I don't think they really see photos of overweight people in the UK, and Americas wayyyy more obese than the UK so theyre more to blame.
They do, and I don't care what nationality.

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A good start would be just haveing the common morality not to abuse themselves as selfishly as they do in a world where there are hundreds of millions, if not billions who can't even benifit from the bare minimum.

But I also bet if they instead of buying all that extra food that they don't need... they saved up the money... they could feed and provide medical care to douzens of needy people.

But obviously those 3 extra big mac's a day are more important to them.
How do they see photos of overweight people over here? Its not like people go and show pictures to starving families is it.

Yes, but some people have problems and issues in which makes them overeat, and why should only overweight people save up their "extra" money and give it to starving families, everybody else could do the same.

and i love the way you've still not answered the question about skinny people
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Do you feel guilty that you probably have more money than you need, a comfortable house and that there are millions of poor people in the world that can‘t even afford basic living conditions?

I don’t see why eating too much food should be any different to having too much money.

Why not give every cent you don’t ‘need’ away to some of those people if you really care so much?
No because wealth is not a matter of necessity. Equality of wealth is communism, which would result in more starvation and oppression of the masses.

One can not have "too much" money as such a notion is imposible.... wealth is not zero sum... one haveing wealth does not take it away or restrict another from it. In fact it encourages others to gain it and the more wealthy people that exist in a society the more benifits that society enjoys, the stronger the economey grows and the more wealth that comes to lower-income individuals though virtue of that.

The wealthyer you are, the more you are actually helping.

Not the same as someone who is fat at all.
Exactly- you only help your own countries economy- not those living in poverty in other countries. You help the rich get richer.

How is that helping the people who really need it? How does you buying extra trainers- made in asia by workers for pennies help someone in Africa who is starving?

Your 'point' if any, is ridiculous.
This is a global market, nothing is isolated to "one nation". The richer you are, the more you consume. The more you consume, the more that is produced. The more that is produced the more people are employed. The more people employed the more income being distributed. The more income being distributed the higher amount of people raising their income. The moer people makeing more money, the more benifits provided to them and their family. This leads to the establishment of larger middle classes... which leads to more enshrined rights of workers and movements towards democracy, which leads to more open markets and the adoption of less restricted capitalism... which leads to heaver flow of income, which again leads to more distrubution and so on and so on.

The solution to the vast majority of the worlds problems rest in the market force. The west is where it is at beacuse of consumption... and these effects would be in full swing in many places if not for hinderences.

South east asia is a great example of where it succeeds... China for one. The poverty level in China is shrinking at a huge rate due to consumption and these trends are moveing accrost the world.
How would all that help the millions that will die before the end of the year (as you said) due to starvation?!
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I can't believe your saying you don't like overweight people for the fact that they're overweight!?

As I've said previously not every overweight person "abuse's themselves selfishly" There are numerous reasons for weight gain. What about overweight young children who are about 4 or 5? Sometimes yes it is due to the intake of food, but sometimes its due to a genetic condition were it is not the fault of the mother or father raising the child.

You certainly cannot judge ever overweight person the same and say "Your like that because you ate too much" Sometimes there are medical reasons for their size.
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
What are you personally doing to help those millions of starving children in the world?
Currently? gaining the education that will better enable me to pursuit a path of work that will enable me to help those in need.
And fat people can do that too.
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I'd also like to point out frenchaffair, that food costs money which also drives the economy
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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Oh no.. not this 'fat' business again. Do you not seem to realise that there are other people such as anorexics and bullimics that also need treatment in the world, not just 'fat' people as you so kindly say? They too waste food. And fair enough its a sickness but dont be biased and blame it on one set of people. And if your so worried about these starving children go and do something like others have, you obviously care alot about them?

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Do you not find it insulting when you see some fat person walking around, knowing full well that there are tens of millions of children that will die this year because they do not have enough food?
Oh no.. not this 'fat' business again. Do you not seem to realise that there are other people such as anorexics and bullimics that also need treatment in the world, not just 'fat' people as you so kindly say? They too waste food. And fair enough its a sickness but dont be biased and blame it on one set of people. And if your so worried about these starving children go and do something like others have, you obviously care alot about them?

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I agree but I don't think anyone can change his opinion.
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