[DamonJ]

But I don't think we can keep TiBB the same ALL the time, the forum is getting stuck in the dark ages, however much we like it this way it is bound to get boring sooner or later, maybe a trial version of this just to see how it goes? And if it gets too much negative feedback remove it?

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by DamonJ
But I don't think we can keep TiBB the same ALL the time, the forum is getting stuck in the dark ages, however much we like it this way it is bound to get boring sooner or later, maybe a trial version of this just to see how it goes? And if it gets too much negative feedback remove it?

I dont think thats true. I've been on this forum for 3 years and I still keep coming back.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : DamonJ
But I don't think we can keep TiBB the same ALL the time, the forum is getting stuck in the dark ages, however much we like it this way it is bound to get boring sooner or later, maybe a trial version of this just to see how it goes? And if it gets too much negative feedback remove it?

Has Karma been removed ? Nope, and people are complaining about it. Those who wanted it do complain because they aren't as popular as they thought they were.
This is exactly the same system. People who are asking for it will be complaining if they don't earn enough 'money', it's obvious like a nose on the face.

[Princess]

Originally posted by ~Kizwiz~

I dont think thats true. I've been on this forum for 3 years and I still keep coming back.

Ditto to that. The forum has changed a lot since I joined. Its about the people,not the gimmicks.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by DamonJ
But I don't think we can keep TiBB the same ALL the time, the forum is getting stuck in the dark ages, however much we like it this way it is bound to get boring sooner or later, maybe a trial version of this just to see how it goes? And if it gets too much negative feedback remove it?

I agree. I can get so dull around here.

[MarkWaldorf]

Well Big Brother IS about to end. The forum is much quieter during off-season and mainly active members who all get along visit during that time. Wouldn't hurt to at least run a trial version during that time.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Has Karma been removed ? Nope, and people are complaining about it. Those who wanted it do complain because they aren't as popular as they thought they were.
This is exactly the same system. People who are asking for it will be complaining if they don't earn enough 'money', it's obvious like a nose on the face.

But it would be better to reward people with money and not be able to take it away like karma.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : tooperfect

I agree. I can get so dull around here.

But it's about the members, not what has been instaured. TIBB is, first of all, a place to discuss Big Brother. So why not keeping it real.
I do agree it's dull sometimes but if I want to play games such as this one, I go to Facebook or Myspace.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by tooperfect

I agree. I can get so dull around here.

I just feel like the forum doesn't appeal to younger members who want new stuff around here, however, that's only my opinion. =)

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Markus
Well Big Brother IS about to end. The forum is much quieter during off-season and mainly active members who all get along visit during that time. Wouldn't hurt to at least run a trial version during that time.

Ditto.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : tooperfect

But it would be better to reward people with money and not be able to take it away like karma.

Do oyu know how many problems about Karma and all this 'popularity contest' ? A lot and this won't help.
It's just another way to prove you are popular, nothing else. We previously had the 'Deserving reward' argument when Karma was instaured. It flopped.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by DamonJ

I just feel like the forum doesn't appeal to younger members who want new stuff around here, however, that's only my opinion. =)

I was about to say the younger members thing =D

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : DamonJ

I just feel like the forum doesn't appeal to younger members who want new stuff around here, however, that's only my opinion. =)

TIBB has never been that popular for a long time, Mark confirmed it therefore it shows people don't matter when they register, all they want is to discuss BB.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Do oyu know how many problems about Karma and all this 'popularity contest' ? A lot and this won't help.
It's just another way to prove you are popular, nothing else. We previously had the 'Deserving reward' argument when Karma was instaured. It flopped.

I partially agree about the popularity contest bit for a reason, and tbh I don't see whats wrong with, people are popular for a reason. We should reward people that do good things around the forum rather than having losers so lower the karma for fun.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

TIBB has never been that popular for a long time, Mark confirmed it therefore it shows people don't matter when they register, all they want is to discuss BB.

They can still keep the discussing part of the forum with the fun part, best of both worlds?

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

Do oyu know how many problems about Karma and all this 'popularity contest' ? A lot and this won't help.
It's just another way to prove you are popular, nothing else. We previously had the 'Deserving reward' argument when Karma was instaured. It flopped.

It will be given out fairly through people doing favours and such for other members. It may also be bought up through a post count. Obviously that may not be much as people will start spamming for money. You can't knock something until you've tried it. If karma was given a fair chance, then so should this.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : tooperfect

I partially agree about the popularity contest bit for a reason, and tbh I don't see whats wrong with, people are popular for a reason. We should reward people that do good things around the forum rather than having losers so lower the karma for fun.

The thing that is wrong with it is that we never had so many complains about 'Why do I have a bad karma ?', 'I don't deserve it' and blah blah blah. Many thread have been locked so if we can spare the mods a waste of time and giving them less efforts, that would be great because they work enough hard for the forum to give them more pointless work.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Markus

It will be given out fairly through people doing favours and such for other members. It may also be bought up through a post count. Obviously that may not be much as people will start spamming for money. You can't knock something until you've tried it. If karma was given a fair chance, then so should this.

Of course people will be spamming for money, just like karma or the post count. I know you know how many problems it brought about people only posting for the post count or for having a higher karma.
Karma was also supposed to be fair for 'deserving' people but you can notice loads of members have removed it: it shows everything.

[Legend]

Originally posted by DamonJ
But I don't think we can keep TiBB the same ALL the time, the forum is getting stuck in the dark ages, however much we like it this way it is bound to get boring sooner or later, maybe a trial version of this just to see how it goes? And if it gets too much negative feedback remove it?

The 'dark ages'? But this is a forum, and like Kiz said, it's one of the most popular ones and a lot of that is due to the simplicity of it, the fact it's not full of all these new 'really cool applications' and it's just here for people to use as a forum.

Plus, who is to say it will be used fairly? People add to their friends karma because they are friends, so what would stop them giving money to their friends if they wanted?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Legend

The 'dark ages'? But this is a forum, and like Kiz said, it's one of the most popular ones and a lot of that is due to the simplicity of it, the fact it's not full of all these new 'really cool applications' and it's just here for people to use as a forum.

Plus, who is to say it will be used fairly? People add to their friends karma because they are friends, so what would stop them giving money to their friends if they wanted?

I think you said it perfectly mate.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Legend

The 'dark ages'? But this is a forum, and like Kiz said, it's one of the most popular ones and a lot of that is due to the simplicity of it, the fact it's not full of all these new 'really cool applications' and it's just here for people to use as a forum.

Plus, who is to say it will be used fairly? People add to their friends karma because they are friends, so what would stop them giving money to their friends if they wanted?

But whose to say that future applications will not benifit the forum? We haven't even trialled ANYTHING yet, and you can not base how it will work on how karma has worked of recent months. Some members seem too stubborn to want to experience change, and people have said that if a trial version doesn't work out they'd be willing for it to go.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : DamonJ

But whose to say that future applications will not benifit the forum? We haven't even trialled ANYTHING yet, and you can not base how it will work on how karma has worked of recent months. Some members seem too stubborn to want to experience change, and people have said that if a trial version doesn't work out they'd be willing for it to go.

But the Karma system is the same as the one you are trying to pull there so why making a new one ? We already know how it will be working. We already have Karma which was made for the same reasons as the TIBB currency.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

But the Karma system is the same as the one you are trying to pull there so why making a new one ? We already know how it will be working. We already have Karma which was made for the same reasons as the TIBB currency.

But karma is something totally different entirely. You do not receive karma based on your post count, or get karma for making something for someone? Nor do you get any benifits for receiving karma. I don't see why everyone is so stuck in their mind that TiBB HAS to stay like it is at the moment, surely a trial version will not hurt anybody.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy

But the Karma system is the same as the one you are trying to pull there so why making a new one ? We already know how it will be working. We already have Karma which was made for the same reasons as the TIBB currency.

Those people who want a simple TiBB and just use the forum the so be it, but what about the people who do want a more complex forum ? The people who don't want it don't have to use it if they just want a simple forum. It won't effect those who don't want to and don't use it if it's there.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : DamonJ

But karma is something totally different entirely. You do not receive karma based on your post count, or get karma for making something for someone? Nor do you get any benifits for receiving karma. I don't see why everyone is so stuck in their mind that TiBB HAS to stay like it is at the moment, surely a trial version will not hurt anybody.

You have just said the reasons why Karma was created. So your new system is the same.
Karma for being nice, making interesting posts, rewarding someone for making you a banner or helping you out.