[Tom]

Originally posted by StevieG

Why roll your eyes? The fact that you 'adore' one of the most vile contestants to ever step in to that house speaks volumes about your character.

What a joker. I have never come come across a true Dennis fan before. I suppose you think you are being controversial? Is it just attention seeking to make you stand out?

Dennis is paying the price for what he did anyways. He has pretty much wrecked any chance of success or credibitly for the near future, and he has admitted that people on the street spit at him.

He is the real 'loser' of this years BB, and probably the biggest loser in the shows history.

Darenn liking Dennis says nothing about Darenn. I liked Maysoon, does that say a lot about my character? I also liked Sara and Mikey, both at the opposite end of the scale to Maysoon, does that say anything about my character?

A person isn't defined by who they like in the house, and whoever says otherwise is incredibly closed minded.

[StevieG]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win

giving up i see

typical



what a loser

Giving up what? How old are you? 12?

You give me nothing to go on, and disregard information, which gives a sh*t debate.

Its an insult towards you.

I prefer to debate with interesting people. Sorry

[StevieG]

Originally posted by Tom

Darenn liking Dennis says nothing about Darenn. I liked Maysoon, does that say a lot about my character? I also liked Sara and Mikey, both at the opposite end of the scale to Maysoon, does that say anything about my character?

A person isn't defined by who they like in the house, and whoever says otherwise is incredibly closed minded.

If you 'adore' a nasty, mailcious, back stabbing moron, who spits in peoples faces, and then ridicules them for crying afterwards, then yes, that does say alot about your character.

It shows that you find disgraceful behaviour acceptable.

[Novo]

Originally posted by StevieG

If you 'adore' a nasty, mailcious, back stabbing moron, who spits in peoples faces, and then ridicules them for crying afterwards, then yes, that does say alot about your character.

It shows that you find disgraceful behaviour acceptable.

change the record

i though you said you were going

afraid of missing something?

[Tom8592]

Stevie G and Andy-Dale-Winton get a room!

[Sam!]

Its gonna end up being a real DennisVMo Situ in a min lol.

[Tom]

Originally posted by StevieG

If you 'adore' a nasty, mailcious, back stabbing moron, who spits in peoples faces, and then ridicules them for crying afterwards, then yes, that does say alot about your character.

It shows that you find disgraceful behaviour acceptable.

Or to flip that around, it also shows you have a forgiving nature depending on what angle you look at it from

As I say, you aren't defined by who you like. By your logic, that means a lot of people who visit forums are horrible and lack social skills because they support Rex, it means a lot of people are boring and victims because they like Rachel, it means people who like Sara are slags, it means people who like Darnell feel sorry for themselves and I could go on.

You like a character and sometimes, just sometimes, good actions outweigh the bad, and at no point have I ever seen Darenn write that he condones spitting, and has even said that in this thread. To say because he supports a housemate because of one thing they did, and despite Darenn objecting which makes him a bad person is silly IMO.

Its just ridiculous to judge a housemate based on one action, and not be a bit open minded to look at the bigger picture. If Mo doesn't hold a grudge against Dennis anymore, then should we really be doing the same if those involved have cleared their conflict? It can jade an opinion, I'm not denying that, but I wouldn't judge people based on one action. I don't judge Alex on just her "pow pow pow" comment, I don't judge Emily based on her saying the n word.

[Novo]

Originally posted by Tom

Or to flip that around, it also shows you have a forgiving nature depending on what angle you look at it from

As I say, you aren't defined by who you like. By your logic, that means a lot of people who visit forums are horrible and lack social skills because they support Rex, it means a lot of people are boring and victims because they like Rachel, it means people who like Sara are slags, it means people who like Darnell feel sorry for themselves and I could go on.

You like a character and sometimes, just sometimes, good actions outweigh the bad, and at no point have I ever seen Darenn write that he condones spitting, and has even said that in this thread. To say because he supports a housemate because of one thing they did, and despite Darenn objecting which makes him a bad person is silly IMO.

Its just ridiculous to judge a housemate based on one action, and not be a bit open minded to look at the bigger picture. If Mo doesn't hold a grudge against Dennis anymore, then should we really be doing the same if those involved have cleared their conflict? It can jade an opinion, I'm not denying that, but I wouldn't judge people based on one action. I don't judge Alex on just her "pow pow pow" comment, I don't judge Emily based on her saying the n word.

Go sick on him tom!!!!

[StevieG]

Originally posted by Tom

Or to flip that around, it also shows you have a forgiving nature depending on what angle you look at it from

As I say, you aren't defined by who you like. By your logic, that means a lot of people who visit forums are horrible and lack social skills because they support Rex, it means a lot of people are boring and victims because they like Rachel, it means people who like Sara are slags, it means people who like Darnell feel sorry for themselves and I could go on.

You like a character and sometimes, just sometimes, good actions outweigh the bad, and at no point have I ever seen Darenn write that he condones spitting, and has even said that in this thread. To say because he supports a housemate because of one thing they did, and despite Darenn objecting which makes him a bad person is silly IMO.

Its just ridiculous to judge a housemate based on one action, and not be a bit open minded to look at the bigger picture. If Mo doesn't hold a grudge against Dennis anymore, then should we really be doing the same if those involved have cleared their conflict? It can jade an opinion, I'm not denying that, but I wouldn't judge people based on one action. I don't judge Alex on just her "pow pow pow" comment, I don't judge Emily based on her saying the n word.

The other housemates have shown admirable qualities at times, and if required, I could list them all.

I think people support housemates who they understand, can relate to, or enjoy watching.

Dennis has shown no redeemable features at any time, and most of the viewers could not stand him before the spitting incident. You are missing the point aswell. The spitting just about summed him up, and confirmed that he is the nasty piece of work that people thought he was.

The way he acted afterwards was just as bad, and his true colours were exposed. Anyone who can act in such a horrible way towards another human being does not deserve any respect.

To adore Dennis means that you generally adore nastiness, bitterness, back stabbing, bitching and malicious behaviour, because they are his all round character traits. He was funny from time to time, but that is about the only thing he has going for him, and it is not enough to redeem the bad features.

If you enjoy watching him, but can admit that he is a horrible guy, then fair plays. But this guy actually adores Dennis as a person, which again, says alot about him.

Who says Mo doesn't hold a grudge? The pics were no doubt a publicity stunt, a request by either of their agents, or a spur of the moment thing when drunk. You don't know how Mo feels, but I can guess he has not fully forgiven him, and I can't see them being friends, can you?

[StevieG]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win


change the record

i though you said you were going

afraid of missing something?

I said I was no longer debating with you.

So stop being a desperado and give it up will ya. You're making yourself look stupid

If you have something insightful, interesting or relevent to add to the debate then feel free to attempt to join in, but if not, then just do yourself a favour and run along, joker

[Novo]

Originally posted by StevieG

I said I was no longer debating with you.

So stop being a desperado and give it up will you. You're making yourself look stupid

If you have something insightful, interesting or relevent to add to the debate then feel free to attempt to join in, but if not, then just do yourself a favour and run along, joker

you said you were going

dahhhh

can you list all the housemate's quality's then

like you said

[Tom]

Originally posted by StevieG

The other housemates have shown admirable qualities at times, and if required, I could list them all.

I think people support housemates who they understand, can relate to, or enjoy watching.

Dennis has shown no redeemable features at any time, and most of the viewers could not stand him before the spitting incident. You are missing the point aswell. The spitting just about summed him up, and confirmed that he is the nasty piece of work that people thought he was.

The way he acted afterwards was just as bad, and his true colours were exposed. Anyone who can act in such a horrible way towards another human being does not deserve any respect.

To adore Dennis means that you generally adore nastiness, bitterness, back stabbing, bitching and malicious behaviour, because they are his all round character traits. He was funny from time to time, but that is about the only thing he has going for him, and it is not enough to redeem the bad features.

If you enjoy watching him, but can admit that he is a horrible guy, then fair plays. But this guy actually adores Dennis as a person, which again, says alot about him.

Who says Mo doesn't hold a grudge? The pics were no doubt a publicity stunt, a request by either of their agents, or a spur of the moment thing when drunk. You don't know how Mo feels, but I can guess he has not fully forgiven him, and I can't see them being friends, can you?

Its only to people who don't like him that he comes across as horrible. If you wore rose tinted glasses you'd see a different Dennis. I hated Dennis, but I can see why others might have liked him. I liked Sylvia and Jennifer, does that make me a bad person? By your logic it does because I apparently condone bitching. Its an entertainment show, some people want to be entertained. Some people find things like that entertaining rather than some Thai woman running round the house shrieking "cookie".

Its ironic how you're saying all this about what it says about him, yet you're failing to acknowledge his favourite housemate is Rachel. Does that say anything about him? I'd like your interpretation of that.

And Mo may not like him, I didn't say he does, but its obvious its water under the bridge or whatever, body language speaks in volumes and they look like they're getting on, and theres a picture of Rex & Dennis kissing eachother somewhere. You don't get pictures and enjoy yourself with someone you don't like no matter what agent tells you.

[StevieG]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win

you said you were going

dahhhh

can you list all the housemate's quality's then

like you said

Jeez - You really have issues man.

I said 'bye' to you, not anyone else.

I will list the housemates qualities at Tom's request, or anybosy else who is interested in a real debate. Not for you though

*Makes a note to myself, stop replying to Dale Winton's posts*

[Novo]

Originally posted by StevieG

Jeez - You really have issues man.

I said 'bye' to you, not anyone else.

I will list the housemates qualities at Tom's request, or anybosy else who is interested in a real debate. Not for you though

*Makes a note to myself, stop replying to Dale Winton's posts*

it's dale-win

not winton

go to specsavers



tom do me a favour and ask him to list all the hm's qualitys

[StevieG]

Originally posted by Tom

Its only to people who don't like him that he comes across as horrible. If you wore rose tinted glasses you'd see a different Dennis. I hated Dennis, but I can see why others might have liked him. I liked Sylvia and Jennifer, does that make me a bad person? By your logic it does because I apparently condone bitching. Its an entertainment show, some people want to be entertained. Some people find things like that entertaining rather than some Thai woman running round the house shrieking "cookie".

Its ironic how you're saying all this about what it says about him, yet you're failing to acknowledge his favourite housemate is Rachel. Does that say anything about him? I'd like your interpretation of that.

And Mo may not like him, I didn't say he does, but its obvious its water under the bridge or whatever, body language speaks in volumes and they look like they're getting on, and theres a picture of Rex & Dennis kissing eachother somewhere. You don't get pictures and enjoy yourself with someone you don't like no matter what agent tells you.

People judge characters on what they have seen, and then make a decision on wether they like them or not. If there was anything likeable about Dennis, then I would understand. He is a nasty person, regardless to what I think about him. There is no denying it. I deal with a lot of people from day to day, and Dennis is scum.

Did you think Syliva and Jen were good people though? There is a difference between being entertained by someone and then adoring them as a person. If you are seriously saying that you think Jen and Sylvia are nice people, then please state why.

If he likes Rachel too, then fair plays. It means that he can value and appreciate a good person too. Thats like saying, hey - I adore Osama bin laden, but I also like Mother theresa. Its irrelevent, and is just a deflection. The concerning thing here is that he 'adores' Dennis.

If you want to talk about body language, then Mo looked quite awkward with Dennis in my opinion.

I also think you are underestimating the power that an agent has over a housemate. If your agent advises you to be cool with someone, for the sake of your career, then you do it.

I don't know what the deal with Rex and Dennis was, but I'm sure it was combination of advice, booze or keeping the peace. If Rex's agent said 'be cool with Dennis and cause a stir' then he'll do it. Anything for a story, or anything to enhance your image is cool.

[Tom]

Originally posted by StevieG

People judge characters on what they have seen, and then make a decision on wether they like them or not. If there was anything likeable about Dennis, then I would understand. He is a nasty person, regardless to what I think about him. There is no denying it. I deal with a lot of people from day to day, and Dennis is scum.

Did you think Syliva and Jen were good people though? There is a difference between being entertained by someone and then adoring them as a person. If you are seriously saying that you think Jen and Sylvia are nice people, then please state why.

If he likes Rachel too, then fair plays. It means that he can value and appreciate a good person too. Thats like saying, hey - I adore Osama bin laden, but I also like Mother theresa. Its irrelevent, and is just a deflection. The concerning thing here is that he 'adores' Dennis.

If you want to talk about body language, then Mo looked quite awkward with Dennis in my opinion.

I also think you are underestimating the power that an agent has over a housemate. If your agent advises you to be cool with someone, for the sake of your career, then you do it.

I don't know what the deal with Rex and Dennis was, but I'm sure it was combination of advice, booze or keeping the peace. If Rex's agent said 'be cool with Dennis and cause a stir' then he'll do it. Anything for a story, or anything to enhance your image is cool.

Before you go off on a tangent, did he say it adores him as a person or as a housemate? I've not seen anything suggesting he does adore him as a person. And for the record, I don't think Sylvia and Jennifer are particularly nice people, but I loved them as housemates.

Theres also a line between being cool with someone and agreeing to disagree, and climbing up their backside and presenting to be their best friend.

Finally, no matter how bad Dennis has been, theres no need to put him in the same bracket as Bin Laden, likewise with Rachel and Mother Theresa.

[StevieG]

Originally posted by Tom

Before you go off on a tangent, did he say it adores him as a person or as a housemate? I've not seen anything suggesting he does adore him as a person. And for the record, I don't think Sylvia and Jennifer are particularly nice people, but I loved them as housemates.

Theres also a line between being cool with someone and agreeing to disagree, and climbing up their backside and presenting to be their best friend.

Finally, no matter how bad Dennis has been, theres no need to put him in the same bracket as Bin Laden, likewise with Rachel and Mother Theresa.

He said 'I adore Dennis' which implies the he adores him as a person. If this is wrong, then the guy might want to speak up. He said 'I don't like Mo' but 'I adore Dennis'

Housemates are desperate for fame, and will do whatever they are told to stay in the spotlight.

I didn't compare Dennis to Bin Laden, I used his name as an 'example'. Its that context thing again.

[rayheartbliss]

wouldnt be surprise that mo would do that!

[Shaun]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
The man (should that be mouse?) is clearly vile. How anyone can 'adore' him is beyond me. During his time in the house he had absolutely no redeeming features.

The fact that you respect Mo more because he has forgiven him, but respected Dennis whatever, speaks volumes about your lack of understanding of what respect should be.

Does it ****. It speaks volumes about how inapt at proving your points you are if you have to make judgmental assumptions about your fellow debater in order to gain the upper hand.

There isn't a clear trend of Dennis supporters, Rex supporters, Mohamed supporters...anyone. Everybody's different, and for you to make silly assumptions like this will just get in the way of a fair and balanced argument.

[bringbackscience]

Originally posted by Shaun

Does it ****. It speaks volumes about how inapt at proving your points you are if you have to make judgmental assumptions about your fellow debater in order to gain the upper hand.

There isn't a clear trend of Dennis supporters, Rex supporters, Mohamed supporters...anyone. Everybody's different, and for you to make silly assumptions like this will just get in the way of a fair and balanced argument.

First of all re-read my post. Where did I make 'silly assumptions' about a 'clear trend' in Dennis supporters?

I said that, that particular Dennis supporter, Darren, doesn't understand what respect should be, and I stand by that.

Darenn, by his own admission, respects someone who spat in someone else’s face, but doesn't respect the victim much unless he forgives the person whom spat at him. Whether your a Dennis fan or not, that isn't the correct use of respect.

So next time before you post rubbish about me making 'judgmental assumptions about my fellow debater in order to gain the upper hand' and say that I am 'inapt at proving my points,' maybe you should actually read what I put rather than using your own, very wrong, interpretation of my post to back up your argument.