[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by dupin
Labour!

I'm surprised Conservative appeals to a mass audience, it all seems very elitist with a sort of "every man for himself attitude" - it sort of enforces that rich people dont have to pay for poor people's medical care or things like that, meaning it doesn't really benefit the mass population of the country.

I am not sure why rich people SHOULD pay for poor people's care etc.. I think that we are going to get a new party in power whether people like it or not.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Sunny_01

I am not sure why rich people SHOULD pay for poor people's care etc.. I think that we are going to get a new party in power whether people like it or not.

I think Dupin means that the Conservative/Thatcherite ethos is "everyman for himself". We all have a responsibility to contribute to society and that includes enabling the weakest members of that society to be able to improve their situation and taking care of those that cant!

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
Conservative for me, We all have our own thoughts and opinions as to which party would best suit our needs. I like the thought of more people being introduced to work that have happily sat at home for years without any real need. I know many people who are on benefits are very genuine and deserve their benefits but their are also many who are happy to live off our contributions and who have never worked a day in their lives. I think a more hardline view needs to be taken with regards to this.

I percieve a major flaw in your reason for wanting a conservative government!!!!!You want idlers introduced to work. So do I. However under Tory policies you will simply get a repeat of history with unemployment soaring.....Where then will it it be possible to put willing workers to work let alone idlers.

The Tory policies are a replica of the 1980s/1990s.....Cuttung costs (Freezing rates as they have irresponsibly promised in a time of economic turmoil will inevitably result in councils country wide having to lay people off and cut services to make up the short fall for not having rate rises to cover inflation.......Also the tories will inevitably attack the civil service and cause unemployment after unemployment......

This present labour government under Brown is flawed no doubt about that but believing the Tories will fair the working class or even the middle class any better is I fear a major attack of wishful thinking...........

[NettoSuperstar!]

And here we are. Conservatism as an ideology is not progressive. Show me what changes the conservatives can bring to the country and I shall be happy to debate with anyone about it!

[Lauren]

Over the past year, I've gone from quite strong Conservativism to absolutely nothing. I no longer hold myself to any political affiliation. I appreciate points from both sides, but support none. Both are, in my opinion, one and the same.

They've both devolved from the centre and now they're just milking their PR machine to get one over each other.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Lauren
Over the past year, I've gone from quite strong Conservativism to absolutely nothing. I no longer hold myself to any political affiliation. I appreciate points from both sides, but support none. Both are, in my opinion, one and the same.

They've both devolved from the centre and now they're just milking their PR machine to get one over each other.

I agree I would like to see Labour more centre left than they are and that is why people are becoming disillusioned with UK politics probably. But the Conservatives have never created opportunities for the ordinary working classes to move forward or enabled social mobility and equality for all. And I dont see that changing

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by Tom
OK I'm not the best in the world at politics but I know a lot of people on here are.

(1) Not me. I don't really like politicians, they only say what we want to hear. Actors, actresses with an answer for everything, "oh I forget, they change the subject mid-drift" instead of answering a direct question with a direct answer.

A bit like me on occasion, generally to the wife

Recently, there have been a few polls with labour trailing behind, but with a general election in around 8 months, which party do you support and possibly vote for (if you can vote)?

(2) I want the Conservatives to win. But I won't be voting for them as my vote won't make any difference overall. They are going to win anyway. It's as clear cut as the Obama win.

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont support any have never voted as they all seem as rubbish as the next

(a) They are rubbish, but one rubbish party has to rule so people just vote.

[Glenn.]

None

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

(1) Not me. I don't really like politicians, they only say what we want to hear. Actors, actresses with an answer for everything, "oh I forget, they change the subject mid-drift" instead of answering a direct question with a direct answer.

A bit like me on occasion, generally to the wife

(2) I want the Conservatives to win. But I won't be voting for them as my vote won't make any difference overall. They are going to win anyway. It's as clear cut as the Obama win.

I wouldnt be so sure. Gordons done well over the banking crisis has done him great favours. Ive been disappointed with some of Labours decisions but running a country is no easy job and I would rather them than the conservatives any day

[Princess]

I don't support any party. Anyways we have all different ones like Sinn Fein and Fianna Fail.

[frontstorm]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I don't like any of them but if i had to pick i'd say labour (get rid of Gordon Brown though).

(a) Gordon Brown should have stayed as chancellor. But instead he tried his hand at being prime minister. Big mistake.

I despise the conservative party though.

(b) I can't understand why. When David becomes prime minister there will be some changes.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by frontstorm

(a) Gordon Brown should have stayed as chancellor. But instead he tried his hand at being prime minister. Big mistake.

(b) I can't understand why. When David becomes prime minister there will be some changes.

yeh changes alright but nothing of benefit to anyone, except the upper middle classes, show me what hes going to do that will be of any benefit to the majority.

[BB_Eye]

None of them. Party politics died with Clause 4. No matter which of the three you vote for, you are still voting conservative.

I hate politicians.

[Scarlett.]

There is no choice between em any more, they are pretty much all the same

[Annie]

SNP

[Sticks]

As a serving civil servant we will support in their endevours who ever the British public chooses to elect.

In the best tradition of Sir Humphrey

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Lauren
Over the past year, I've gone from quite strong Conservativism to absolutely nothing. I no longer hold myself to any political affiliation. I appreciate points from both sides, but support none. Both are, in my opinion, one and the same.

They've both devolved from the centre and now they're just milking their PR machine to get one over each other.

Well done Lauren well done......Don't be fooled by any of them. For me none of the natural born control freaks are worth even a grain of salt.

In recent decades I was strong Labour but have now like you gone to "nothing". In past decades I used to be strong conservative but then along came "Thatcher" which somehow should be an anagram for satan.

If i live til the next election sadly for the first time in my voting life I will not be able to vote for any of the manipulating lieing incompetent rat bags on offer....

[Ross]

Labour

[GiRTh]

Labour. My conscience won't allow me to vote Conservative. Even though the parties do all look alot like each other Labour is still only truly Liberal party. And I am a Liberal.

[Firewire]

Labour because I live in Scotland.

Conservatives & Lib Dem's are crap in Scotland.

[BB_Eye]

Originally posted by bananarama

Well done Lauren well done......Don't be fooled by any of them. For me none of the natural born control freaks are worth even a grain of salt.

In recent decades I was strong Labour but have now like you gone to "nothing". In past decades I used to be strong conservative but then along came "Thatcher" which somehow should be an anagram for satan.

If i live til the next election sadly for the first time in my voting life I will not be able to vote for any of the manipulating lieing incompetent rat bags on offer....

Amen