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Old 26-11-2008, 01:37 PM #1
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Dee... Ewe...Double Elle.....DULL.

Another perfect song choice for Diana, just her and one instrument. Its really starting to rile me that this girl is going to win the contest. She has no range, no versatility and no power. X-Factor this year is a joke.
Yeah but thats what makes her an individual.. others in that competition are to me copies of other bands/artists that have been or are still in the music busy.. diana is unique which is why she is favourite to win
Being less talented is why she's individual? I dont get it.
I didn't say she wasn't talented.. she's very talented in my eyes (and clearly a whole bunch of other people seeing as she's favourite) I know what you mean when you say she has no versatility but your going to have to look back on other finalists/winners of this competition like Leona who wasn't very versatile, same with Ray that year. Alex Parks is the only person I can somewhat relate Diana to in terms of singing reality tv shows, and she had character and a unique voice I wouldn't mind if Alexandra won if Diana didn't... but I feel like we've already got someone like Alexandra on the scene at the moment in the form of Leona - who is better
If you don't have a powerful voice then to last in the industry its all about versatility and reinvention. If you can't do that then you have no future.
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I didn't say she wasn't talented.. she's very talented in my eyes (and clearly a whole bunch of other people seeing as she's favourite) I know what you mean when you say she has no versatility but your going to have to look back on other finalists/winners of this competition like Leona who wasn't very versatile, same with Ray that year. Alex Parks is the only person I can somewhat relate Diana to in terms of singing reality tv shows, and she had character and a unique voice I wouldn't mind if Alexandra won if Diana didn't... but I feel like we've already got someone like Alexandra on the scene at the moment in the form of Leona - who is better
If Diana wins I see her career going the same way as Alex Parks ie moderate success but not the kind of success we should expect from a mainstream TV talent show.

I dont like people comparing Leona and Alexandra because I dont think they are as similar as people say. Both are talented and both have a place in the music business. I hope alex does win simply because I think she's the best all round simger still left in the contest.
Yeah agreed she is an all round singer and I wouldn't mind her winning she's got personality as well as a good voice, this year's X factor has to be more tight nearer the end than any other series so far. Excited for the next few weeks!
And you never know Ruth could maybe win aww I like her
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Dee... Ewe...Double Elle.....DULL.

Another perfect song choice for Diana, just her and one instrument. Its really starting to rile me that this girl is going to win the contest. She has no range, no versatility and no power. X-Factor this year is a joke.
Yeah but thats what makes her an individual.. others in that competition are to me copies of other bands/artists that have been or are still in the music busy.. diana is unique which is why she is favourite to win
Being less talented is why she's individual? I dont get it.
I didn't say she wasn't talented.. she's very talented in my eyes (and clearly a whole bunch of other people seeing as she's favourite) I know what you mean when you say she has no versatility but your going to have to look back on other finalists/winners of this competition like Leona who wasn't very versatile, same with Ray that year. Alex Parks is the only person I can somewhat relate Diana to in terms of singing reality tv shows, and she had character and a unique voice I wouldn't mind if Alexandra won if Diana didn't... but I feel like we've already got someone like Alexandra on the scene at the moment in the form of Leona - who is better
If you don't have a powerful voice then to last in the industry its all about versatility and reinvention. If you can't do that then you have no future.
yeah but other than Leona.. no other contestant has had much success after X factor so thats expected of every winner of X Factor
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Dee... Ewe...Double Elle.....DULL.

Another perfect song choice for Diana, just her and one instrument. Its really starting to rile me that this girl is going to win the contest. She has no range, no versatility and no power. X-Factor this year is a joke.
Yeah but thats what makes her an individual.. others in that competition are to me copies of other bands/artists that have been or are still in the music busy.. diana is unique which is why she is favourite to win
Being less talented is why she's individual? I dont get it.
I didn't say she wasn't talented.. she's very talented in my eyes (and clearly a whole bunch of other people seeing as she's favourite) I know what you mean when you say she has no versatility but your going to have to look back on other finalists/winners of this competition like Leona who wasn't very versatile, same with Ray that year. Alex Parks is the only person I can somewhat relate Diana to in terms of singing reality tv shows, and she had character and a unique voice I wouldn't mind if Alexandra won if Diana didn't... but I feel like we've already got someone like Alexandra on the scene at the moment in the form of Leona - who is better
If you don't have a powerful voice then to last in the industry its all about versatility and reinvention. If you can't do that then you have no future.
yeah but other than Leona.. no other contestant has had much success after X factor so thats expected of every winner of X Factor
It was expected before Leona, its nothing to do with her, some people were even predicting Leona to flop!
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I like that song, had a feeling she would sing that, at least it isn't I'm not A Girl one, I wonder what her other song will be? I really hope it's the one she sung at Bootcamp.
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
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Didn't Leona always sing slow songs? a part from Could This Be Magic? I remember Louis kept monaing about it. Anyway who cares if she has picked a slow song? let's be honest here, what ever song she would of picked some of you wouldn't be happy.
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
She's sticking to her strengths, do you see many rappers bursting out into power ballads? Many Divas doing rock? Diana's an indie songstress type singer similar to Katie Melua (mainstream example) and Laura Marling. You wouldn't see Katie Melua doing a disco dancing number now would you?
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Didn't Leona always sing slow songs? a part from Could This Be Magic? I remember Louis kept monaing about it. Anyway who cares if she has picked a slow song? let's be honest here, what ever song she would of picked some of you wouldn't be happy.
We wont be happy because she wont be able to sing it yet she'll still get praised by the judges and her fans will still vote her through. I dont see much point in the other acts turning up.
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She's sticking to her strengths, do you see many rappers bursting out into power ballads? Many Divas doing rock? Diana's an indie songstress type singer similar to Katie Melua (mainstream example) and Laura Marling. You wouldn't see Katie Melua doing a disco dancing number now would you?
Those are establisehd artists who have found their niche in the market. This is a singing contest and, for me, to be a good singer she needs to sing a variety of songs in a variety of styles. By saying she sticking to her strengths you're as good as admitting she has many weaknesses.
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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bloody hell you havn't even heard her yet!
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She's sticking to her strengths, do you see many rappers bursting out into power ballads? Many Divas doing rock? Diana's an indie songstress type singer similar to Katie Melua (mainstream example) and Laura Marling. You wouldn't see Katie Melua doing a disco dancing number now would you?
Those are establisehd artists who have found their niche in the market. This is a singing contest and, for me, to be a good singer she needs to sing a variety of songs in a variety of styles. By saying she sticking to her strengths you're as good as admitting she has many weaknesses.
I know she's got weaknesses every singer has but i'm not gonna bother arguing with you anymore you're obviously to set in your own ways to see it from a different point of view. We'l just see how the ball rolls in around 9 months time.

Let's just agree to disagree.
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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
She's been sh*t for three weeks. I going by her previous performances.
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Yeh agreed and we are talking about X factor its X factor man
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She's been sh*t for three weeks. I going by her previous performances.

But that's your opinon, not mine or her fans! Yello was the only one I didn't really like.
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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
She's been sh*t for three weeks. I going by her previous performances.

But that's your opinon, not mine or her fans! Yello was the only one I didn't really like.
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Yellow was bad she was still ill. Patience crap song and 1st half crap. but over the whole thing shes stood out as the best to me
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Oh no!!!!

Even Rachel was better.
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Egg and JLS were worse it really stood out that there is one good singer in JLS
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Yep Aston. I luv Asto though, he should of gone solo.
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
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Oh no, how dare her fans vote for her! and how do you know she wont be good? bl***y hell you havn't even heard her yet!
Girth is looking for reasons to dislike her btw. He won't like her even if she gives a stellar performance so there's no point even trying there.
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You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
Its a singing contest and thus she should prove that she can sing a variety of songs in a variety of styles. She's still a long way from doing that.
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Why is it that people seem to look for reasons to hate on Diana? You say she's boring and predictable but she's the only unique one there really apart from Ruth. JLS are a smartprice Boys 2 Men, Alexandra will end up a version of Leona Lewis and Beyonce but with a lot less success, Eoghan will make one album and disapear...Diana's probably one of the most unique talents ever on X Factor, shame she can't be appreciated for it since the vast majority of X factor viewers think Talent requires someone to sing through a machine...
Once again she's picked a slow song with just one instruemnt. Theres definitely a pattern forming here. Mind you, judging by last weeks performance as many as two instruments would drown out her weak vocals.
You say that like it's an insult? Do you expect her to do a different song every week? Cos her album isn;t going to be a collection of different styles is it? So why should it be now?
errr... maybe to show her versatility? All the other acts are managing a different style of song every week, and Alex was slated in the beginning for making obvious choices. I don't see why it's so different with Diana. Surely doing different genres is the whole point of having a different theme every week
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