[xERFx]

If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

[Tom]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

If you think Alexandra is like Beyonce then either you're deaf or have no idea about music. I can see the Beyonce comparison, but theres room for more than one.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

Alexandra's voice coach, Yvie Burnett, said recently:

People may say she's like Leona Lewis but I work closely with both of them and I think there is a different quality. You'd do different songs with each of them.

They are different singers.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Because she looks sweet and innocent. She has these lovely eyes that are almost hypnotic which gives her a sort presence. There is something about her that just makes you want to pick her up and surround her in cotton wool.

That's what made people like her and her strange little funny voice.... and once your liked people just vote for their favorite no matter how rubbish they are. You see it in threads on TiBB.

She is the real John Sergeant of the X-Factor.

comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

• John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
• Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by Tom

If you think Alexandra is like Beyonce then either you're deaf or have no idea about music. I can see the Beyonce comparison, but theres room for more than one.

No i am not deaf and i do have an idea about music which is why i know there is a place for Diana in the charts. Alexandra will live in Beyonces shadow end of

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom

Alexandra has proven she can perform in different styles, she is adaptable and her performances are distinguished from one another. Diana's all merge into one, shes stuck to one genre throughout (bar disco week) and its very sameish. Diana will not win. She will come second.

i dont really feel that alexandra deserved to get this far. there were better singers. im not talking about just the voice. im talking about the whole package. the x factor. something that alexandra lacks. she oozes with unoriginality. ive heard it all before. some girl with a good voice that bellows out song after song in an average way. nothing original. and nothing exciting. i think you are worried about dianas warbling. dont concern yourself too much. that is a gift. that part of her sound is what gets her through week after week. plus her amazing originality. and beauty.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

• John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
• Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

Im sorry yeah but you talk rubbish

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Im sorry yeah but you talk rubbish

Well I'm sorry Diana sing's rubbish....

[Tom]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9

No i am not deaf and i do have an idea about music which is why i know there is a place for Diana in the charts. Alexandra will live in Beyonces shadow end of

There is a place for both Alexandra and Diana (and also JLS as a matter of fact) but Alexandra could go international and have success, Diana couldn't. Alexandra can reinvent herself and take her success to a new level. Diana is a one trick pony.

Originally posted by im_not_Britney

i dont really feel that alexandra deserved to get this far. there were better singers. Im not talking about just the voice. Im talking about the whole package. the x factor. something that alexandra lacks. she oozes with unoriginality. ive heard it all before. some girl with a good voice that bellows out song after song in an average way. nothing original. and nothing exciting. i think you are worried about dianas warbling. dont concern yourself too much. that is a gift. that part of her sound is what gets her through week after week. plus her amazing originality. and beauty.

Alexandra has everything. Stage presence, great personality, amazing voice, great performer. THE X FACTOR. She might not be original but neither is anyone else in the industry. There is no such thing as originality anymore, EVERYTHING has been done before and that includes Diana, who is not original in the slightest. I'm not worried about her voice, I don't mind Diana. I'm just realistic.

[30stone]

Im still finding her a bit...

her beyonce performance was over rated as all the hype from it..

but them... im not simon cowell lol.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom

I'm just showing that what you're saying can easily be turned right around on you, and if you say Alex shouldn't have made it past the first audition then that means you think she can't hold a note, because if she did then you'd think she would deserve to go through.

Funny how you change your mind about what you're talking about when its turned around.

read it again. red moon brought up that diana couldnt hold a note. i replied by saying that was ridiculous. many who were picked by the judges in the first auditions but never made it past the next could hold a note. if they were that bad. they would have been weeded out then. diana sailed through. there was something about her voice which won them over. time and time again. right upto the final group was chosen. now she is getting through week after week. instead of picking at my post. you should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

So what X-Factor does Diana have?

[Tom]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney

read it again. red moon brought up that diana couldnt hold a note. i replied by saying that was ridiculous. many who were picked by the judges in the first auditions but never made it past the next could hold a note. if they were that bad. they would have been weeded out then. diana sailed through. there was something about her voice which won them over. time and time again. right upto the final group was chosen. now she is getting through week after week. instead of picking at my post. you should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

Alexandra sailed through. There was something about her voice which won them over. Time and time again. Right up to the final group was chosen. Now she is getting through week after week.

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

• John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
• Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

That's your opinion but obviously she can sing otherwise she wouldn't be in the show

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

• John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
• Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

whats your definition of a good voice? whats your definition of a good singer? if "strictly come dancing" had as many applicants as the x factor. john sargent would have been voted off from day one. the whole concept of "strictly come dancing" differs to the x factor. none of those performing are celebrities. none of those performing have an experienced singer performing with them. it is not x factor the duos. is it? with the dancing competiton there are two involved. one experienced and one inexperienced. john sargent knows his place. its not his fault that he got as far as he did. it is those at home. but diana has been praised by the judges more often than not. she has won over the majority of home voters. in your opinion you dont like her voice. that is understandable. i dont like rod stewarts voice. i dont like damon alburns voice. but that doesnt mean they are talentless. once again. hand movements are nothing more than a nervous habit. rick astley had a way of moving while he performed. it was amusing. people picked up on that. but hes won an award recently, hasnt he.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom

Alexandra sailed through. There was something about her voice which won them over. Time and time again. Right up to the final group was chosen. Now she is getting through week after week.

its just the way it goes. we are now at the point whereby the judges have no input at the very end. it is all upto the voters at home. this is where they shall weed out the rot. but many vote. its always going to be close. but when it comes to the very last day. diana shall be there and her eyes shall be crying tears of joy. it shall be magnificent. if alexandra comes second. i wish her well. i hold nothing against her other than she is not really x factor material. she is a good singer thus getting this far. but the next few weeks will prove im right.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
whats your definition of a good voice? whats your definition of a good singer? if "strictly come dancing" had as many applicants as the x factor. john sargent would have been voted off from day one. the whole concept of "strictly come dancing" differs to the x factor. none of those performing are celebrities. none of those performing have an experienced singer performing with them. it is not x factor the duos. is it? with the dancing competiton there are two involved. one experienced and one inexperienced. john sargent knows his place. its not his fault that he got as far as he did. it is those at home. but diana has been praised by the judges more often than not. she has won over the majority of home voters. in your opinion you dont like her voice. that is understandable. i dont like rod stewarts voice. i dont like damon alburns voice. but that doesnt mean they are talentless. once again. hand movements are nothing more than a nervous habit. rick astley had a way of moving while he performed. it was amusing. people picked up on that. but hes won an award recently, hasnt he.

Someone that can hold a pure not without letting it slide. It's a bit of a basic singing skill. If you can't do that then you're wasting your time. What Diana demonstrates is what Simon would normally call a bad habit. However in Diana's case, I fear it is a chronic condition that she can't recover from. She going to be stuck with it for the rest of her life.

As for the Strictly stuff and the similarities. It didn't matter what John did he could not have got voted off the show, it just wasn't going to happen and the same can be said of Diana. She is getting worse rather than better as the show goes on and when she is clearly the weakest act she still gets to stay. It the way people vote for favorites not the best performance of the week.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

So what X-Factor does Diana have?

i've already said. she has a different kind of voice. something which appeals to a lot of us. those being the majority of home voters. something which has been indeed spotted by the judges. it is impossible to describe. being pretty helps. but you need a lot more than that. plus beauty is only skin deep. its whats inside that matters the most. she has both. and the x factor. of course.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i've already said. she has a different kind of voice. something which appeals to a lot of us. those being the majority of home voters. something which has been indeed spotted by the judges. it is impossible to describe. being pretty helps. but you need a lot more than that. plus beauty is only skin deep. its whats inside that matters the most. she has both. and the x factor. of course.

You mean the cuddly factor?

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Someone that can hold a pure not without letting it slide. It's a bit of a basic singing skill. If you can't do that then you're wasting your time. What Diana demonstrates is what Simon would normally call a bad habit. However in Diana's case, I fear it is a chronic condition that she can't recover from. She going to be stuck with it for the rest of her life.

As for the Strictly stuff and the similarities. It didn't matter what John did he could not have got voted off the show, it just wasn't going to happen and the same can be said of Diana. She is getting worse rather than better as the show goes on and when she is clearly the weakest act she still gets to stay. It the way people vote for favorites not the best performance of the week.

you are right about diana being stuck with that kind of voice. the same can be said about all singers i feel. whatever your voice is like. you have to put up with. you are also telling me how you perceive what a good voice should sound like. i did ask you the question but also you must realise "like i keep saying" it is the whole package that matters. the judges chose her. there was absolutely no input from home voters until they had decided themselves who was going to be in the final selection. from what you have pointed out here. you feel that all the judges are useless. you are saying that every one of them chose a girl who cannot sing properly. this sounds ludicrous. even the majority of home voters have agreed that diana can sing and she has the x factor. if that wasnt true. she would have gone out instead of bad lashes. but she didnt. did she? she has stayed in. she is still there. each week she sails through.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
you are right about diana being stuck with that kind of voice. the same can be said about all singers i feel. whatever your voice is like. you have to put up with. you are also telling me how you perceive what a good voice should sound like. i did ask you the question but also you must realise "like i keep saying" it is the whole package that matters. the judges chose her. there was absolutely no input from home voters until they had decided themselves who was going to be in the final selection. from what you have pointed out here. you feel that all the judges are useless. you are saying that every one of them chose a girl who cannot sing properly. this sounds ludicrous. even the majority of home voters have agreed that diana can sing and she has the x factor. if that wasnt true. she would have gone out instead of bad lashes. but she didnt. did she? she has stayed in. she is still there. each week she sails through.

Okay lets agree to disagree that she can sing or not. We are never going to sort that one out, even if it does crop up again.

How do you know that the majority of home voters have agreed that Diana can sing? Unless you have access to the voting figures you don't know how people are voting. Your claiming she has over 50% of the vote on what grounds? How do you know she sails through?

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Okay lets agree to disagree that she can sing or not. We are never going to sort that one out, even if it does crop up again.

How do you know that the majority of home voters have agreed that Diana can sing? Unless you have access to the voting figures you don't know how people are voting. Your claiming she has over 50% of the vote on what grounds? How do you know she sails through?

thats fair enough about agreeing to disagree. i just wanted to get my point across. im sick of hearing about people prodding her about her voice all the time. what she has is how it is. the judges spotted something. and chose to keep her in. and then the public cast their votes. the other point about majority votes. i made an error in my previous post. sorry. what i meant to say is that she has received a generous proportion of the overall vote. im not privy to what proportion that is exactly. i doubt anyone would know that except the x factor execs. or bt. i hope that clears that up.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
thats fair enough about agreeing to disagree. i just wanted to get my point across. Im sick of hearing about people prodding her about her voice all the time. what she has is how it is. the judges spotted something. and chose to keep her in. and then the public cast their votes. the other point about majority votes. i made an error in my previous post. sorry. what i meant to say is that she has received a generous proportion of the overall vote. Im not privy to what proportion that is exactly. i doubt anyone would know that except the x factor execs. or bt. i hope that clears that up.

It does, and thank you.... I have enjoyed the debate.

Looking round this place it looks like she will make the final. I think at the end of the day come the final she could be pushed into second place.

But that would be a good result for the girl. She would still get a record deal but she could take a back seat from all the press. The pressure would be less for her and that would allow her be developed slowly and quietly into a recording artist.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon

It does, and thank you.... I have enjoyed the debate.

Looking round this place it looks like she will make the final. I think at the end of the day come the final she could be pushed into second place.

But that would be a good result for the girl. She would still get a record deal but she could take a back seat from all the press. The pressure would be less for her and that would allow her be developed slowly and quietly into a recording artist.

yes i enjoyed it to. i shall try to make some time to post some more. it will get more exciting towards the end of the x factor. not long now. i wont talk about your predictions for dianas future once she loses. because im saying that she will win. if i did that. it would be silly. its just the way it is. hope you understand.