[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stu

What a loose argument. Your basing something you claim as fact off your own observational skills? Also, brush up on your spelling before you bring patronisation into the game.

Besides which, like I already said, if she was uncomftorable in the convorsation why on earth would she be in it, let alone talk on about her husband?

In FACT, correct me if Im wrong here, Tina and LaToya actualy seem to be getting along very well thus far. I have heard both of them say one another is very nice and engaging on live feed countless times.

Are you going to go against the housemate themselves opinions with your own unique brand of observation and emotional assesment? [/quote]

There is nothing loose about that argument whatsoever YEs if you have to ask people to figure that they are uncomfortable or not, it means you have very low emotional intelligence. 99% of the time, I dont have to. MOst people that I know can read it. SOrry if you cant, thats your issue.
ANd as for Latoya, she only told her, because she felt she had someone who went through the same thing, that will maybe listen, and like I said before, that self centered potty mouth, couldnt even listen for a secon without turning it to herself, and basically telling her Boo HOo, I have had worst.
I would be embarassed to be related to her.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Gazbo

What a ridiculously harsh opinion to have on someone you have never even met before. How can you possibly have made your mind up on someone based on one conversation.

ermmm, one conversation? I think she has been in front of the camera long enough, without pulling any punches to figure out, that she is crude. Is that not the one who was showing off her shagg hair (vulgar) ? Talking about I just got smashed! I think there is enough to go with already. The one who turned the conversation about Janets abussive husband to herself (inconsiderate), and the one who cant tell when someone is uncomfortable with a conversation(stupid).

[Stu]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

What a loose argument. Your basing something you claim as fact off your own observational skills? Also, brush up on your spelling before you bring patronisation into the game.

Besides which, like I already said, if she was uncomftorable in the convorsation why on earth would she be in it, let alone talk on about her husband?

In FACT, correct me if Im wrong here, Tina and LaToya actualy seem to be getting along very well thus far. I have heard both of them say one another is very nice and engaging on live feed countless times.

Are you going to go against the housemate themselves opinions with your own unique brand of observation and emotional assesment?

There is nothing loose about that argument whatsoever YEs if you have to ask people to figure that they are uncomfortable or not, it means you have very low emotional intelligence. 99% of the time, I dont have to. MOst people that I know can read it. SOrry if you cant, thats your issue.
ANd as for Latoya, she only told her, because she felt she had someone who went through the same thing, that will maybe listen, and like I said before, that self centered potty mouth, couldnt even listen for a secon without turning it to herself, and basically telling her Boo HOo, I have had worst.
I would be embarassed to be related to her. [/quote]
Of course their is something loose about your argument. Can you not see that you are passing something off as fact [LaToya being uncomftorable] based on YOUR OWN opinion?

From what I saw, Tina butted in as she does [crime of the century] and actualy re-assured LaToya, telling her she has been through much of the same treatment. This actualy served to benefit LaToya as she then felt more comftorable talking about it to Tina.

And again, like I said, Tina and LaToya actualy seem to be getting along very well thus far. I have heard both of them say one another is very nice and engaging on live feed countless times.

Are you going to go against the housemate themselves opinions with your own unique brand of observation and emotional assesment?

[That was a copy and paste by the way. I dont normaly like doing that, but im going to have to make a special exception in your case].

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stu

There is nothing loose about that argument whatsoever YEs if you have to ask people to figure that they are uncomfortable or not, it means you have very low emotional intelligence. 99% of the time, I dont have to. MOst people that I know can read it. SOrry if you cant, thats your issue.
ANd as for Latoya, she only told her, because she felt she had someone who went through the same thing, that will maybe listen, and like I said before, that self centered potty mouth, couldnt even listen for a secon without turning it to herself, and basically telling her Boo HOo, I have had worst.
I would be embarassed to be related to her.

Of course their is something loose about your argument. Can you not see that you are passing something off as fact [LaToya being uncomftorable] based on YOUR OWN opinion?

From what I saw, Tina butted in as she does [crime of the century] and actualy re-assured LaToya, telling her she has been through much of the same treatment. This actualy served to benefit LaToya as she then felt more comftorable talking about it to Tina.

And again, like I said, Tina and LaToya actualy seem to be getting along very well thus far. I have heard both of them say one another is very nice and engaging on live feed countless times.

Are you going to go against the housemate themselves opinions with your own unique brand of observation and emotional assesment?

[That was a copy and paste by the way. I dont normaly like doing that, but Im going to have to make a special exception in your case]. [/quote]

Like I said, some people, just cant figure those things out, so I cant help you. She was uncomfortable. Again, sorry if you dont have those people's skills. Its not a huge thing to be able to notice that.

And no she didnt butt in. LAtoya likes to speak to people one on one, and she was addressing Tina only, with no one else hearing. And she flipped it and made it about herself. She is an inconsiderate dumbass as far as I am concerned.

ANd if you think its unique to be able to read such a simple emotion as being uncomfortable, well, I'd hate to be around you and your friends.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Like I said, some people, just cant figure those things out, so I cant help you. She was uncomfortable. Again, sorry if you dont have those people's skills. Its not a huge thing to be able to notice that.

And no she didnt butt in. LAtoya usually speak to people one on one, and she was addressing Tina only with no one else hearing. And she flipped it and made it about herself. She is an inconsiderate dumbass as far as I am concerned.

ANd if you think its unique to be able to read such a simple emotion as being uncmfortable, well, I'd hate to be around you and your friends.

Loose argument. No matter what you say, your observational skills and people skills dont serve to make what you believe a fact. Truth be told, the only person who really knows if LaToya was uncomftorable is LaToya. Im simply guessing she was perfectly comftorable. You on the other hand are making assumptions on her behalf. You dont know for a fact she was uncomftorable. Fact.

Also, your not serving yourself well by concocting these ridiculous theorys about me not having people skills. I find it rude, inconsiderate and nasty. I guess, then, that makes you a hypocrite.

Have fun.

[jonsep]

wernt they both just trying to empathise with eachother irrespective of what language was used?

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermmm, one conversation? I think she has been in front of the camera long enough, without pulling any punches to figure out, that she is crude. Is that not the one who was showing off her shagg hair (vulgar) ? Talking about I just got smashed! I think there is enough to go with already. The one who turned the conversation about Janets abussive husband to herself (inconsiderate), and the one who cant tell when someone is uncomfortable with a conversation(stupid).

LMAO what a ridiculous argument:

1.The shag hair was nothing more then a pun, to laugh at how messed up her hair was, if that's what you consider crude you need to enter the real world.

2.Of course she gave her input into the conversation with LATOYA. A conversation usually refers to two people talking. It;s human nature to want to relate with others.

3.I think whether or not LaToya was uncomfortable is a matter of opinion. I personally didn't see any signs of discomfort on her part and how do you know that Tina didn't realise LaToya was uncomfortable but didn't want to make things awkward or make it seem like she was treating LaToya any differently.

[Stu]

Originally posted by jonsep
wernt they both just trying to empathise with eachother irrespective of what language was used?

Exactly. You summed paragraphs worth of arguments up with your one post .

[Wildcat!]

Latoya , and imo people who do well around groups, because they can actually read such a simple emotion. HOw many times have you heard people say, oh he loooked so uncomfortable? YOu are only denying it, as a you dont have any proof argument. Its not a courtroom. ON BB you observe and you decide. I dont need to ask people if they are uncomfortable, if you do, I repeat, oh well, life aint fair. I can easily tell she was, I am sure most people can as well, and its not the only reason why I thing that woman is vilgar, crude, dumb and she is the only housemate I cant stand so far.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Gazbo

LMAO what a ridiculous argument:

1.The s**g hair was nothing more then a pun, to laugh at how messed up her hair was, if that's what you consider crude you need to enter the real world.

2.Of course she gave her input into the conversation with LATOYA. A conversation usually refers to two people talking. It;s human nature to want to relate with others.

3.I think whether or not LaToya was uncomfortable is a matter of opinion. I personally didn't see any signs of discomfort on her part and how do you know that Tina didn't realise LaToya was uncomfortable but didn't want to make things awkward or make it seem like she was treating LaToya any differently.

So this is how you discuss topics, just call whatever you dont argue wth ridiculous.
You said that she judged her based on one conversation. Well I showed you 3 different instances that illustrates the adjectives that she used. I dont think there is anything more, in response to that argument.
And if the way she talks is the real world for you, enjoy your world, I will enjoy mine thanks.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Latoya , and imo people who do well around groups, because they can actually read such a simple emotion. HOw many times have you heard people say, oh he loooked so uncomfortable? YOu are only denying it, as a you dont have any proof argument. Its not a courtroom. ON BB you observe and you decide. I dont need to ask people if they are uncomfortable, if you do, I repeat, oh well, life aint fair. I can easily tell she was, I am sure most people can as well, and its not the only reason why I thing that woman is vilgar, crude, dumb and she is the only housemate I cant stand so far.

You have avoided half my argument again. In particular, the part where you insulted me and transformed yourself into a hypocrite. Special.

Yes or no question : Do you know for a fact LaToya was uncomftorable and have you asked LaToya?

I rest my case. And please dont repeat yourself with these bollocks arguments which are little more than your own sugar coated, self pleasuring opinions on the subject.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Latoya , and imo people who do well around groups, because they can actually read such a simple emotion. HOw many times have you heard people say, oh he loooked so uncomfortable? YOu are only denying it, as a you dont have any proof argument. Its not a courtroom. ON BB you observe and you decide. I dont need to ask people if they are uncomfortable, if you do, I repeat, oh well, life aint fair. I can easily tell she was, I am sure most people can as well, and its not the only reason why I thing that woman is vilgar, crude, dumb and she is the only housemate I cant stand so far.

Clearly most people take from that, that she was not uncomfortable, otherwise you would have an army of supporters backing you up, but you don't, most people like myself, saw nothing wrong what so ever.

Crude perhaps and maybe even vulgar depending on your preference, but you have no proof to call her dumb. Your argument only shows that she maybe a little socially unintelligent or unobservational but shows nothing to say she is a unintelligent person.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stu

You have avoided half my argument again. In particular, the part where you insulted me and transformed yourself into a hypocrite. Special.

Yes or no question : Do you know for a fact LaToya was uncomftorable and have you asked LaToya?

I rest my case. And please dont repeat yourself with these ******** arguments which are little more than your own sugar coated, self pleasuring opinions on the subject.

I rest my case, just proves my point. This is not a courtroom. Its public opinion. If we were in litigations, and you were defending her, I am sure she would win. But in this case, you just appear to not understand the whole point of BB.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

So this is how you discuss topics, just call whatever you dont argue wth ridiculous.
You said that she judged her based on one conversation. Well I showed you 3 different instances that illustrates the adjectives that she used. I dont think there is anything more, in response to that argument.
And if the way she talks is the real world for you, enjoy your world, I will enjoy mine thanks.

The points you provided were nothing short of ridiculous, talk about scraping the barrel.

[30stone]

She didnt speak well it was a bit cringe to watch due to her swearing every 3 words but thats it.

[jonsep]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Latoya , and imo people who do well around groups, because they can actually read such a simple emotion. HOw many times have you heard people say, oh he loooked so uncomfortable? YOu are only denying it, as a you dont have any proof argument. Its not a courtroom. ON BB you observe and you decide. I dont need to ask people if they are uncomfortable, if you do, I repeat, oh well, life aint fair. I can easily tell she was, I am sure most people can as well, and its not the only reason why I thing that woman is vilgar, crude, dumb and she is the only housemate I cant stand so far.

If your saying you could tell by her body language she looked uncomfoetable then i fear you may be wrong.
to be able to read a persons body language,which by the way isnt an exact science you have to get the persons normal baseline,ie,how they act when thier not uncomfortable then judge thier reations from that.
now given we dont know what her normal behaviour is like we cant for sure say she was uncomfortable.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Its public opinion.

Exactly. Therefore you do not know for a fact if LaToya was offended, because it was only your opinion. Back to square one. You are essentialy now agreeing with me. You have just made the point I was making to you all along. Case closed.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Gazbo

The points you provided were nothing short of ridiculous, talk about scraping the barrel.

Obviously it seem it is your only way. Oh well.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Stu

Exactly. Therefore you do not know for a fact if LaToya was offended, because it was only your opinion. Back to square one. You are essentialy now agreeing with me. Case closed.

Well you don`t know she wasn`t

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Gazbo

Clearly most people take from that, that she was not uncomfortable, otherwise you would have an army of supporters backing you up, but you don't, most people like myself, saw nothing wrong what so ever.

Crude perhaps and maybe even vulgar depending on your preference, but you have no proof to call her dumb. Your argument only shows that she maybe a little socially unintelligent or unobservational but shows nothing to say she is a unintelligent person.

Clearly most people on here are less than 15, and I dont think they even care. But here you go.

http://digitalspy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=965390

[Stu]

Originally posted by supernoodles!

Well you don`t know she wasn`t

Right. But im guessing she was not, because she did not seem to suggest any different. That is what my opinion is based on.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by supernoodles!

Well you don`t know she wasn`t

Nobody knows wether she was or wasn't so i think this arguement is just pointless now.

[jonsep]

Originally posted by jonsep

If your saying you could tell by her body language she looked uncomfoetable then i fear you may be wrong.
to be able to read a persons body language,which by the way isnt an exact science you have to get the persons normal baseline,ie,how they act when thier not uncomfortable then judge thier reations from that.
now given we dont know what her normal behaviour is like we cant for sure say she was uncomfortable.?

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

Clearly most people on here are less than 15, and I dont think they even care. But here you go.

http://digitalspy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=965390

Thats the opinion of 40 odd people against millions of others that saw no problem.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Stu

Exactly. Therefore you do not know for a fact if LaToya was offended, because it was only your opinion. Back to square one. You are essentialy now agreeing with me. You have just made the point I was making to you all along. Case closed.

Sorry, it doesnt work like that! Again, this is not a courtroom. Back to square one for you obviously,, since youre one of those who actually have to ask people to see when they are uncomfortable. Maybe Davina will ask her in her interview, that will be your answer then. I already have mine.