[Sticks]

Originally posted by Lauren

There was another water by the side of a road to totally immerse the Ethiopian?

I'm not being facetious by the way, I'm actually trying to understand.

It could have been an oasis or something like that.

[arista]

Originally posted by ~Kizwiz~
I noticed in the "will you be eating meat today" thread that quite a few people are......

I'm not at all although my children do go to a C of E School.

There is No God.

Eat what you can afford
in this New Labour Depression.




Sign Of The Times.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Sticks

It could have been an oasis or something like that.

Good point.

I'm not sure which type of baptism my brothers got, but I think my father was total immersion. He is no longer religious though, and my brothers have never been.

I'm probably the purist of my siblings and I was the only one not baptised. It just shows that baptism is pointless unless you practise the faith.

[Axiom]

Not religious at all. Never been baptised. The Bible is a book written by somebody as sort of guidelines as to how to live our lives in my opinion, not some book of true stories as is implied. I don't understand how people can believe it to be honest, there's no such thing as magic.

[xDramatick]

Not religious at all.
Atheism (sp?) yay :]

[John.]

Originally posted by Tom
non-practicing Catholic I call myself

I think the bible is a load of b*llocks, I'm not even sure I believe in God tbh but I think there has to be something ...

EXACT SAME!

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Sticks

Very

At the risk of going off topic, the way I understand the New Testament, the only scriptural way to baptise is by total immersion, as the Greek word used, Baptizo actually means to immerse. Sprinkling and pouring, as done with a "font" are different Greek words.

Also in Romans 6, and Colossians 2:12 refer to baptism as a burial. How can pouring or sprinkling water from a font be seen as a burial?

As for the concept as "Holy water"? Where in the New Testament is that concept?

In Acts 8, the Ethiopian was baptised in water by the side of the road

So you were baptised as a child and then decided to have a total immersion?

Its something I have never heard of before

[Christina]

Im religious. Both my primary school and Secondary school were Church of England schools. I pray every night but dont go to church, athough i really want to start.. perhaps in college. Oh and i was christened.

[Captain.Remy]

I am. But I'm not an extremist. I'm only a believer who does most of the events like today. However, I never go to church every Sunday, only when needed.
And I don't bring religion into everyday moral, I live my life the way I want to. But, you don't joke about religion. Atheist or not, it's a question of respect.

[SiaSiaSia]

Not at all, I'm completley agnostic

[Sticks]

Originally posted by ~Kizwiz~
So you were baptised as a child and then decided to have a total immersion?

Its something I have never heard of before

My parents had me Christened as a baby because in those days that was the done thing, but it was scripturally invalid, or in the words of Isaiah and later Jesus, "vain worship"

My baptism by total immersion, in accordance with Acts 2:38 was the valid baptism denoted by scripture.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Sticks

My parents had me Christened as a baby because in those days that was the done thing, but it was scripturally invalid, or in the words of Isaiah and later Jesus, "vain worship"

My baptism by total immersion, in accordance with Acts 2:38 was the valid baptism denoted by scripture.

I'm just wondering has immersion become the done thing to be done now? I'm not having a go or anything Sticks, just curious!

[Sticks]

From what I can see, among the general population people still seem to believe "Christening" of a baby or young child is the done thing, even though it's scriptural validity is in question.

Immersion has always been around as that is the scripturally correct mode but it is hardly ever offered by the mainstream denominations. (Unless you count the baptist churches and the independent house churches)

The one time I saw immersion being done in the C-of-E was by the Arch Bishop of York, who is originally from Africa.

[Tom]

Is immersion the one which is basically a swimming pool with holy water in and you just pretty much jump in?

[Jen]

I always though Immersion was Believers Baptism.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Tom
Is immersion the one which is basically a swimming pool with holy water in and you just pretty much jump in?

Baptism by immersion can be carried out anywhere where there is sufficient water, like a swimming pool, a very large Victorian bath (In my case) or a river, pond or even the sea

This is an example I found on YouTube

Youtube video

Not sure which church group this is, but you should get the picture

Originally posted by LEEZIDJ
I always though Immersion was Believers Baptism.

That is another term for it, most likely developed by either those who still advocate infant sprinkling or those trying to be "neutral"

[Sticks]

This video is of a baptism that I filmed back in 2004

[Mark]

I was christned/baptised, and confirmed when I was young. It was only when I started thinking for myself that I became an athiest.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Chewy

and thats why Athiests do my head in, they always use the "holier than thou" approach to religeon

Ditto Chewy

Im not at all religious but I do think about what religious thinkers were trying to say and I believe people like Jesus were just trying to find a way of living that benefits all of humanity...Its just other peoples interpretations have been wrapped up in the social and political situations of the time and got even more ****ed up over time. I dont believe a "God" created the earth either but I believe there are ways of being and interacting with each other and the environment that will benefit us and ways that wont....which SOME religious folk have got terribly wrong

Jesus encouraged people to seek knowledge and truth, I'll take that and the ten commandments...the rest is for a different time and place long ago

[Sam!]

I was christned as a baby and went church from a young age, don't go so much now. My school is a church of england school and you like have to go church to get in. Aint been church in ages though. I dunno what I think really, my girlfriend is always like - you never have an opinion on things like this. Yeh I don't lol. Opinionated on the petty things

[Firewire]

Not very religious.

I believe in god and the story of Jesus etc.

I haven't been baptised and I do not go to church.

I am protestant.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Firewire
Not very religious.

I believe in god and the story of Jesus etc.

I haven't been baptised and I do not go to church.

I am protestant.

And not to forget, The bible is just other peoples accounts/interpretations of Jesus's life. And also Jesus was a Jew and never intended to start a new religion.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
And not to forget, The bible is just other peoples accounts/interpretations of Jesus's life. And also Jesus was a Jew and never intended to start a new religion.

The Bible contains more than stories about Jesus, so I suspect you are referring to the gospels.

As for starting another religion, for several years Christianity was seen as just another branch of Judaism until the first gentile convert, about ten years after Jesus died, according to some scholarship.

Jesus came to seek and save the lost and to fulfil the Law. At that time Judaism had wandered into the mire of legalism so it could be argued that if anything he was trying to bring it back into what it should have been, and to make it more inclusive, since even then it was more a them and us religion.

Again, adter the first conversion of gentiles, that is when Christianity can be seen as a separate "religion". In fact, the New Testament records in Acts 11:26 the first time the word Christian is ever used. Well after the conversion of Cornelius, the first gentile convert (See Acts 10)

[Tom4784]

I'm not very religious at all although I was baptised and went to a C of E Primary School. I'm Agnostic, There might be something more but we'll never know until we've popped our clogs so what's the point in debating it?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Sticks

The Bible contains more than stories about Jesus, so I suspect you are referring to the gospels.

As for starting another religion, for several years Christianity was seen as just another branch of Judaism until the first gentile convert, about ten years after Jesus died, according to some scholarship.

Jesus came to seek and save the lost and to fulfil the Law. At that time Judaism had wandered into the mire of legalism so it could be argued that if anything he was trying to bring it back into what it should have been, and to make it more inclusive, since even then it was more a them and us religion.

Again, adter the first conversion of gentiles, that is when Christianity can be seen as a separate "religion". In fact, the New Testament records in Acts 11:26 the first time the word Christian is ever used. Well after the conversion of Cornelius, the first gentile convert (See Acts 10)

Yes I was talking about the gospels and The basis of christianity. the birth of Christainity and every religion really is heavily influenced by the political/social situation of the time isnt it.

Interestingly there were gospels left out of the bible too!