[davidalbert]

....a heroin addict wouldnt get into the house..........
for me its not so much the health issue as the fact that smoking corner creates an artificial island within the BB house

[davidalbert]

.......also Smoking Corner is a fashion faux pas..that red seat and bin is just too camp..like something out of Boy George's bedroom.......te he

[IsleOfWeather]

without bans and discrimination we would still have to endure travel, clubs, pubs, waiting rooms etc stinking from the toxic fumes of those people who have the "freedom" to smoke

get real folks

in 20 year smoking will be banned outright and we will look on it with the same disgust as we do on the charming Victorian habit of emptying your bedpan out the window and onto the street

[Iceman]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
without bans and discrimination we would still have to endure travel, clubs, pubs, waiting rooms etc stinking from the toxic fumes of those people who have the "freedom" to smoke

get real folks

in 20 year smoking will be banned outright and we will look on it with the same disgust as we do on the charming Victorian habit of emptying your bedpan out the window and onto the street

in 20 years time i plan on being dead from smokinf too much, seriously the amount of money cigarettes make for governments etc. It just wont happen in my opinion.

[RCW1945]

"The only problem is that, thanks to the UK smoking ban, they're required to have a designated outdoor smoking area "
Not true, the law refers only to places where you can't smoke, no mention of where you can.
Smokers die younger, therefore require fewer health services and pension payments. The taxes they pay are a bonus for all the non-smokers.

[HELLIWONTGO]

There are certain people on these forums that are just not worth replying to! Pc Nazi sums it up about right for me!

[davidalbert]

Oh dear...........calling others Nazi just reveals the swaztika in one's own soul

[StGeorge]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO

Well said, you got to it before I could, but people who call for a ban on things, never have the intelligence to see where it will lead to!

Smoking itself has not been banned. But smoking in the airspace of others who do not wish to inhale smoke has.

To those that say they have a right to smoke anywhere..i say this:

You smoke..the product of this is smoke which you say you have a right to breathe out onto me.
I drink..the product of which is urine. Is it ok if i piss on your head.

[davidalbert]

...anyway....doing away with smoking corner is about deconstructing a TV House......not a person...

[ClaretandBlue]

BB is a microcosm of society. Until they ban smoking in the UK outright, I don't see a problem allowing it. Just my opinions.

As for BBUSA, smoking is still allowed (though they seem to avoid showing it when possible). Though I can tell you, in the US there are very few states here that still allow indoor smoking (bars, clubs, etc..) and in some states smoking (outside) on public property is forbidden.

[Alf]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
without bans and discrimination we would still have to endure travel, clubs, pubs, waiting rooms etc stinking from the toxic fumes of those people who have the "freedom" to smoke

get real folks

in 20 year smoking will be banned outright and we will look on it with the same disgust as we do on the charming Victorian habit of emptying your bedpan out the window and onto the street

so what's your view on motor vehicle's? which also pollute the air with toxic fumes and are also death traps. or trains for that matter.
do you also believe these should be prohibited?

bring back the horse and cart

[a_2009]

If the point is purely about smoking creating an 'artificial island', people will naturally put themselves in to groups over things where they find common ground. The smoking area just creates another scenario where people may bond over common ground i.e. smoking.

It's also interesting how you talk about the deconstruction of the house....in previous years BB has actively divided the house in to rich and poor (i.e. last year with the bedrooms) they did it this year with those who had housemate status and those who didn't which imediately created groups......just human nature mate.

[Blasphemer]

I like the way that smokers refer to their "right" to smoke. There is no such thing as a "right" to take a drug.
As for discrimination, when it comes to overweight people it is almost encouraged to insult and berate them as the right thing to do to "encourage" them to lose weight. I have no problem with anyone smoking around me anywhere, my missus is a smoker and, although I would encourage her to quit, that has to be her decision.
I don't agree with the nanny state, and legislation stating how people live their lives. But people have to understand that they don't have a god given right to do anything that they like, if what they do has a detrimental effect on other people's lives.

[bansheewails]

*puts out her fag before replying*

If you ban the smoking area there would be carnage in the house! Also Ofcom is busy enough with out involving the PC brigade! Leave us smokers to die in peace!

[Zphod]

haha i love these people who think their going to die of second hand smoke coz their walking past a smoker on the street

i have been beaten up and bottled many times walking home from town because of drunk wankers. why dont we ban alcohol den?

im betting the social costs of alcohol FAR outweigh that of smoking. think about it. unprovoked attacks, A&E fill ups, drunk drivers, divorce, beating the **** out of your wife, your kids, your dog, kicking in windows

last time I checked, a malboro does not make you do these things. but drink can.

[Alf]

Originally posted by bansheewails
*puts out her fag before replying*

If you ban the smoking area there would be carnage in the house! Also Ofcom is busy enough with out involving the PC brigade! Leave us smokers to die in peace!

amen to that

[McNab]

I feel alcohol is by far 100 times worse than Smoking. If drink was consumed as regularly as smokers smoke it would be just as bad if not worse for u than smoking.

Plus how many crimes are commited due to excessive cigarette abuse. But i don't see people fighting against alcohol as much as smoking no do i ****. Reason being its not advertisted in the same light as smokin is.

[a_2009]

Originally posted by Blasphemer
I like the way that smokers refer to their "right" to smoke. There is no such thing as a "right" to take a drug.
As for discrimination, when it comes to overweight people it is almost encouraged to insult and berate them as the right thing to do to "encourage" them to lose weight. I have no problem with anyone smoking around me anywhere, my missus is a smoker and, although I would encourage her to quit, that has to be her decision.
I don't agree with the nanny state, and legislation stating how people live their lives. But people have to understand that they don't have a god given right to do anything that they like, if what they do has a detrimental effect on other people's lives.

Well the whole idea of a democratic society is that people have a 'right' to choose, in my previous post when i refered to the smokers 'rights'....it was in reference to their right of 'choosing' to smoke.
Whilst the tabloid media may take to insulting people who are overweight, It's not something i personally agree, but at the end of the day I can only justify my own thoughts and behaviour.
I think it's great that smoking has been banned in bars, on public transport etc etc with regards to those who don't smoke not having to suffer the effects of passive smoking. Before none smokers didn't have a choice about whether they inhaled the smoke, with the public bans and smokers tending to congregate in one area we have the choice as to whether we stand next to people who are smoking.
People constantly act in ways which could be detrimental to others lives e.g. wreckless driving, binge drinking and the aftermath, so where do we draw the line......other than to bring in a nanny state which to an extent we seem to be already moving towards

[BJ]

I'm surprised it's taken 6 weeks for someone to come up with this topic. It happens every year.

Probably, OP, you'd like BB to stop supplying them with junk food for treats and make sure they live on a healthy diet. They could totally ban drink too then they could all have a good sleep EVERY night before we start watching.

[jtalh2003]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather

smoking causes cancer, no ifs or but(t)s - idiots who smoke are a drain on the NHS. We dont show smoking in advertising and we should not allow it on BB.

People who smoke are addicted to a drug called nicotine and do not act rationally and need to be forced and discriminated against

what a load of crap about smokers are a drain on the nhs lol
they put a lot more in to the nhs than you do and if smoking was banned tomorrow i would love to see your face when you see how much more tax you will be paying
*EDIT*
and while i am here a non smoker puts more of a drain on the nhs than a smoker for the simple reason they live longer on average

[moveupandon]

Originally posted by StGeorge

Smoking itself has not been banned. But smoking in the airspace of others who do not wish to inhale smoke has.

To those that say they have a right to smoke anywhere..i say this:

You smoke..the product of this is smoke which you say you have a right to breathe out onto me.
I drink..the product of which is urine. Is it ok if i p**s on your head.

well don't walk down the road where people drive.
don't wear clothes made in factories.

wow! your wit well stumped me.

smoking outside... oh no! let's bad it!

ban everything!
ban your computer for the articifical products its made off!

just get some perspective pc nazi!

[hannah.]

Originally posted by davidalbert
....a heroin addict wouldnt get into the house..........
for me its not so much the health issue as the fact that smoking corner creates an artificial island within the BB house

which also happens in normal life? I'm a smoker and I'm much closer to my friends at work who smoke, because we all go out FOR A FAG together. BB is supposed to be a 'social experiment', not a bloody dictatorship

[Fangz]

The smokers would still congregate together to smoke, cos who wants to puff away by themselves when they can have a gossip instead? Our smoking shelter at work is unusable because it keeps getting hit by cars and vandalised but we all still group together.

[andynsteve]

oooo always love a smoking discussuion...if we were in the house we'd smoke anywhere outside as its in the open....

and agree all this hate towards cigarettes and bans etc and nowt is done with alcohol which destroyes ur liver and causes aggression amongst sum ppl...it causing dring driving and violence = death.... yey smoking has resttictions...so annoying

bb gives the hm parties with booze etc and with that they sld also give em cigarettes.....

[mtt]

Its a work plae they could ban smoking