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Twosugars · 29-11-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

LOL,they'de be crying into their tea

Delusions

MB. · 29-11-2018, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

It would blatantly be a completely different story for some people if someone like Kay or Sian joined and people were being rude to them lbr

You're right, you wouldn't have any admin trying to shut down any criticisms directed towards them (or at least I'd hope not)

Actual forum members with, say, no power to remove posts or ban other forum members, arguing over a housemate, especially with that housemate there to weigh in? No problem

Mitchell · 29-11-2018, 11:31 PM

I mean it’s not as if some people got away with saying some quite harsh things about Raph using the whole ‘he’s a housemate’ thing.

James · 29-11-2018, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MB.

I know you want your forum to look good for the special guest (lol good luck with that), but even then I'm intrigued that you're taking this stance so firmly and telling anyone who remotely criticises Cameron to "give it a rest" when he himself seems perfectly capable of responding to those criticisms

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Originally Posted by Hayden

Why should people's opinion of a housemate change simply because they signed up to this forum?

It's basic politeness really. Most regular members don't want to be insulted and that's why we have a rule against it. We have to remember that most people who post on here (applies to social media also) are effectively anonymous, so if someone had a bone to pick with any of you, they would not have much ammunition.

Whereas, the ex-housemates have gone on TV and we know a lot about them (or think we do) so they are more unshielded to personal comments against them. There is an imbalance there.

Consider if someone found out something about you, in real life (like on a social media account), and you had it used against you in a conversation on a forum. You wouldn't like it.

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

I mean it’s not as if some people got away with saying some quite harsh things about Raph using the whole ‘he’s a housemate’ thing.

I didn't like that either. Raph wasn't in any way controversial, as much as I remember that series.

Headie · 29-11-2018, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by James

It's basic politeness really. Most regular members don't want to be insulted and that's why we have a rule against it. We have to remember that most people who post on here (applies to social media also) are effectively anonymous, so if someone had a bone to pick with any of you, they would not have much ammunition.

Whereas, the ex-housemates have gone on TV and we know a lot about them (or think we do) so they are more unshielded to personal comments against them. There is an imbalance there.

Consider if someone found out something about you, in real life (like on a social media account), and you had it used against you in a conversation on a forum. You wouldn't like it.

I didn't like that either. Raph wasn't even controversial, as much as I remember that series.

The housemates are all heavily briefed before entering the house that they will be alot of people who don't particularly like them. The title and OP of this thread clearly acknowledges that, it's clear he knew that he wasn't going to get an overwhelmingly positive response by signing up to the forum

I don't see how suddenly liking a housemate who ruined the majority of the series for you personally is standard "basic politeness" but go off sis!

rusticgal · 30-11-2018, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden

The housemates are all heavily briefed before entering the house that they will be alot of people who don't particularly like them. The title and OP of this thread clearly acknowledges that, it's clear he knew that he wasn't going to get an overwhelmingly positive response by signing up to the forum

I don't see how suddenly liking a housemate who ruined the majority of the series for you personally is standard "basic politeness" but go off sis!

But he is responding to critisism with honesty and being pretty decent about it...so give your opinion but try and show a little respect to someone who has taken the time to come on here and explain himself.
That's not much to ask is it?

Twosugars · 30-11-2018, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden

The housemates are all heavily briefed before entering the house that they will be alot of people who don't particularly like them. The title and OP of this thread clearly acknowledges that, it's clear he knew that he wasn't going to get an overwhelmingly positive response by signing up to the forum

I don't see how suddenly liking a housemate who ruined the majority of the series for you personally is standard "basic politeness" but go off sis!

Elliot · 30-11-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by James

It's basic politeness really. Most regular members don't want to be insulted and that's why we have a rule against it. We have to remember that most people who post on here (applies to social media also) are effectively anonymous, so if someone had a bone to pick with any of you, they would not have much ammunition.

Whereas, the ex-housemates have gone on TV and we know a lot about them (or think we do) so they are more unshielded to personal comments against them. There is an imbalance there.

Consider if someone found out something about you, in real life (like on a social media account), and you had it used against you in a conversation on a forum. You wouldn't like it.

I didn't like that either. Raph wasn't in any way controversial, as much as I remember that series.

i dont understand why you find it so much more barbaric that i called cameron a knob and hayden quoted him with a shilpa gif than the hundreds and thousands of threads on this website ripping into a housemates every move. a precedent has already been set that housemates are fair game, and with tomasz and cameron visiting the forum its not so far fetched that the housemates being talked will stumble across what has been said about them.

'Consider if someone found out something about you, in real life (like on a social media account), and you had it used against you in a conversation on a forum. You wouldn't like it.'
this is what I'm confused about because i kinda agree with it, but where was the moral objection to the countless threads this series made about housemates personal lives as revealed on this tv show? Does it not make posters in this thread, who have called out peoples vitriol to cameron, that the housemates they've ****talked might read what they have put, and be equally if not more so disheartened? why do you find people telling cameron to his face they don't like him so much more horrific than whats written about housemates by multiple posters every day in off season? did you really not cosnider the idea they might find this forum and read such threads, or is it simply because you like the person involved personally? i hope its not the latter

Marsh. · 01-12-2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by James

It's basic politeness really. Most regular members don't want to be insulted and that's why we have a rule against it. We have to remember that most people who post on here (applies to social media also) are effectively anonymous, so if someone had a bone to pick with any of you, they would not have much ammunition.

Whereas, the ex-housemates have gone on TV and we know a lot about them (or think we do) so they are more unshielded to personal comments against them. There is an imbalance there.

Consider if someone found out something about you, in real life (like on a social media account), and you had it used against you in a conversation on a forum. You wouldn't like it.

I didn't like that either. Raph wasn't in any way controversial, as much as I remember that series.

Are you seriously comparing discussing/criticising/praising a housemate based on their behaviour on a television show they voluntarily entered is in anyway comparable to being ripped to shreds about a PRIVATE life that someone has intruded into unnecessarily?

On what planet are they even in the same universe?

You say this without a hint of irony... as the admin... of a Big Brother discussion forum.... for how many years?

JerseyWins · 02-12-2018, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Are you seriously comparing discussing/criticising/praising a housemate based on their behaviour on a television show they voluntarily entered is in anyway comparable to being ripped to shreds about a PRIVATE life that someone has intruded into unnecessarily?

On what planet are they even in the same universe?

You say this without a hint of irony... as the admin... of a Big Brother discussion forum.... for how many years?

In that example the person would have voluntarily put [whatever it would be] on social media for all to see, comment on, etc. for what is essentially a life discussion forum.

It still wouldn't be nice if it was commented on negatively right in front of the person or directly aimed at them in another place/setting/platform.

It's the same thing on different scales. Maybe a bit of an exaggerated comparison by James but still a pretty legit comparison nonetheless.

Basically by entering BB he opened up his life to the public but that's what people do in life all the time as well, this was just for a lot more people to see and it's viewed more openly to judge them etc. because it's a show. That doesn't make it right to unnecessarily bash the person but tbf I don't think the criticism here was too bad or OTT (but idk I think some things might have been deleted so at least from what I've read).

Elliot · 02-12-2018, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins

In that example the person would have voluntarily put [whatever it would be] on social media for all to see, comment on, etc. for what is essentially a life discussion forum.

It still wouldn't be nice if it was commented on negatively right in front of the person or directly aimed at them in another place/setting/platform.

It's the same thing on different scales. Maybe a bit of an exaggerated comparison by James but still a pretty legit comparison nonetheless.

Basically by entering BB he opened up his life to the public but that's what people do in life all the time as well, this was just for a lot more people to see and it's viewed more openly to judge them etc. because it's a show. That doesn't make it right to unnecessarily bash the person but tbf I don't think the criticism here was too bad or OTT (but idk I think some things might have been deleted so at least from what I've read).

exactly but people post like that all the time carelessly about other housemates so why is it so much worse its being said to his face? Cameron has visited the forum so what if sian or akeem were to visit the forum and read what has been written about them? For example theres a thread where multiple people call sian a prostitute and awful mother. Think of if she were to read through that.. why aren't there rules about talking about housemates in that manor in the first place?

The point being made is the hypocrisy of owning and partaking in a forum that rips into a housemates every move, and not a single bat of an eyelid, then telling people to have 'basic politeness' because the housemate tweeted about us. Whats stopping hussain, lewis g, kay, akeem and sian visiting this forum and reading whats been wrote about them? If he wants to make his forum look good, the damage is done.. the precedent has been set that housemates are fair game, of course unless the moderator personally likes them and dislikes the people talking about them

Maru · 02-12-2018, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins

In that example the person would have voluntarily put [whatever it would be] on social media for all to see, comment on, etc. for what is essentially a life discussion forum.

It still wouldn't be nice if it was commented on negatively right in front of the person or directly aimed at them in another place/setting/platform.

It's the same thing on different scales. Maybe a bit of an exaggerated comparison by James but still a pretty legit comparison nonetheless.

Basically by entering BB he opened up his life to the public but that's what people do in life all the time as well, this was just for a lot more people to see and it's viewed more openly to judge them etc. because it's a show. That doesn't make it right to unnecessarily bash the person but tbf I don't think the criticism here was too bad or OTT (but idk I think some things might have been deleted so at least from what I've read).

Yeah I think quite a bit would have had to been deleted, because I'm not real sure what the "fuss" is about. I agree with all you've said here though.

Personally, I would be fine with admin adding a rule that users can't go after former contestants if they're just visiting to get in touch with fans. It would be sort of like a "Contributor" status. It's not unreasonable for there to be a consensus of basic respect if a former castmember visits and takes the time to answer questions... and we know there are plenty of people who will abuse a situation like that if given the chance. I remember because I was that 12-13-yo who joined the "mob" to "harass" Britney Spears when she visited a radio station and was posting to online folk.

I came across it because she was posting on an IRC server I frequented.

I don't think that type of interaction is on the same plane as a "normal" member. Those visits are actual contributions to the site. i.e. "special content"... so there obviously could be different rules of engagement to discourage scaring away future contributors. Clearly, this is in retrospect, because Cameron already visited(?) and the show is cancelled so... (edit) obviously if they decided to integrate, then they would have to reintroduce themselves as "permanent" members...

Ant. · 29-11-2018, 11:32 PM

Tbh James you can't even argue with MB's point when you said "give it a rest" to Elliot, who insulted Cameron, but not in response to the person calling Hussain a knob

STOP brownnosing Cameron IT'S EMBARRASSING!

Kazanne · 29-11-2018, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ant.

Tbh James you can't even argue with MB's point when you said "give it a rest" to Elliot, who insulted Cameron, but not in response to the person calling Hussain a knob

STOP brownnosing Cameron IT'S EMBARRASSING!

It's not brownnosing it's simply manners to welcome someone who has been in the show the site was created for,I feel embarrassed for some of the comments on here, why even comment if you don't like someone,it's like you think your funny or something,it's far from it as I said it's embarrassing.