[Novo]

They could have at least asked you before deleting them after all the effort that was made over 3/4 years

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Novo

They could have at least asked you before deleting them after all the effort that was made over 3/4 years

Yeah that was awful rude

[Mystic Mock]

That's sad, this is up there with Most Loved for celebrity status on here.

[InOne]

Ah damn I can understand where you're coming from though Matt.

[Maia]

Noooooo I look forward to these every year

[Mystic Mock]

Isn't there anyway of restoring the deleted threads?

[Josy]

It wasnt the mods that deleted them it was admin, so I can understand why it's pissed you off but it's pretty unfair to blame us.

[Novo]

It seems a bit silly and OTT to delete all the threads and not just Lock them or delete the posts that started the drama

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Josy

It wasnt the mods that deleted them it was admin, so I can understand why it's pissed you off but it's pretty unfair to blame us.

Fair enough but my above statement is correct

Originally Posted by Matt

The explanation from the mods is as follows: "They were deleted by admin and mods for the drama that kicked off afterwards."

The explanation is a word-for-word quote, which came from a mod (ukturtle)

I know the mods are generally very helpful and for that I'm thankful but when you don't know who's specifically responsible you tend to just blame the whole staff

Obviously I'm now well aware who to blame (*cough*James*cough*)

[Ramsay]

Deleting them all together will just cause more drama if anything

[Smithy]

we should do what the simpsons did when they lost all their memories and reenact them all

[Benjamin]

No need for the tantrum. I gave you an answer, and a pretty reasonable one. You don't need to know who locked them (although now you do). You could just speak to James and ask him to unlock them.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

No need for the tantrum. I gave you an answer, and a pretty reasonable one. You don't need to know who locked them (although now you do). You could just speak to James and ask him to unlock them.

I'm sure you'd be just delighted if every game you've ever run was deleted from the forum simply because they got a little heated

I don't care anymore, the point is they shouldn't have been removed in the first place

There was no problems with the 2008 and 2009 threads in 2008 and 2009, and the 2010 thread had already been moderated, locked and returned

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm sure you'd be just delighted if every game you've ever run was deleted from the forum simply because they got a little heated

I don't care anymore, the point is they shouldn't have been removed in the first place

Fair enough, I would be, but to blame us is out of order. All we did was answer your question.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Please stop blaming the mods. Admin made the decison. I've been a host, i know how much effort goes into games, but you need to take this up with admin.

And you please stop saying I'm blaming the mods when I'm only explaining the reasons I made a generalisation (which you're partly responsible for).

Especially when I've already made it clear who I'm blaming:

Originally Posted by Matt

Obviously I'm now well aware who to blame (*cough*James*cough*)

I'm not taking it up with admin, I've already spoken to admin about the opt-out list. If anything admin should be taking it up with me and explaining what the hell the bloody problem is.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree Matt, past games are normally good to look back on so it's not fair that they was deleted.

[GypsyGoth]

If anything it's the normal everyday threads here that cause the most drama. Arguments break out in ones about the weather or puppies. It seems a shame to single out The Razzies.

[Shaun]

What's the actual point? Was there a thought in James' head that said "oh crap, so-and-so might read up on the 2009 Razzies and reinstigate that argument about webcams"?

And even if there was something salacious or controversial, do you think deleting the thread is going to make it go away?

I shouldn't be surprised, this is coming from an admin that thinks swearing is so naughty, but whatever. Sad times.

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

If anything it's the normal everyday threads here that cause the most drama. Arguments break out in ones about the weather or puppies. It seems a shame to single out The Razzies.

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that said, Matthew, bloody do it or I'm divorcing it's worth the night, tbh, even if it gets closed the next day

[Ammi]

..I think that’s a shame..not only for you Matt, obviously but for everyone else as well...

...I don’t think I’ve fully understood the Razzies before, but as a very wise person has pointed out...forums, life..everything in general has good stuff and bad stuff....if you try to have one (eg ML etc) without balancing it up with the other..it won’t make the bad stuff go away..it’ll only make it seep more into other parts of the forum...and possibly cause more bad feeling and arguments than the Razzies ever could have.....

..people not being able to express their views never makes for a good environment..and they won't be held in anyway, they'll just find another outlet.....

[Benjamin]

If you follow my suggestion and ask admin if they can be restored, they may do it. It's worth asking before getting in a rage and cancelling everything.

[Marsh.]

Isn't there archives of old versions of the forum?
Surely they could be retrieved somehow.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Lee.

Omg! I hope the opt-out drama you're referring to isn't Novo's text to me? It was just a joke

Not a problem, I meant the drama that led to me introducing the opt-out list

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Fair enough, I would be, but to blame us is out of order. All we did was answer your question.

Again I'll say that when you're not aware exactly who's responsible you'll speak in general about the whole staff, because you know it's got to be one of them. At that point I wasn't aware, and to be fair, your explanation stated that "They were deleted by admin and mods", which itself is a generalisation.

Obviously I'm now well aware who deleted them.

Originally Posted by ukturtle

If you follw my suggestion and ask admin if they can be restored, they may do it. It's worth asking before getting in a rage and cancelling everything.

It's not about getting them back, it's about them being deleted in the first place.

I don't see any reason to put effort in to a game (and Shaun and Dezzy know exactly how much effort I went to this year) if moderators are going to make up the rules behind my back, and if the results are clearly inevitably going to end up deleted (I haven't even mentioned the 2011 ceremony which hasn't been seen since the day it took place).

It's just a waste of time, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Matt

Not a problem, I meant the drama that led to me introducing the opt-out list




Again I'll say that when you're not aware exactly who's responsible you'll speak in general about the whole staff, because you know it's got to be one of them. At that point I wasn't aware, and to be fair, your explanation stated that "They were deleted by admin and mods", which itself is a generalisation.

Obviously I'm now well aware who deleted them.




It's not about getting them back, it's about them being deleted in the first place.

I don't see any reason to put effort in to a game (and Shaun and Dezzy know exactly how much effort I went to this year) if moderators are going to make up the rules behind my back, and if the results are clearly inevitably going to end up deleted (I haven't even mentioned the 2011 ceremony which hasn't been seen since the day it took place).

It's just a waste of time, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time.

Please stop blaming the mods. Admin made the decison. I've been a host, i know how much effort goes into games, but you need to take this up with admin.

[CharlieO]

dick move from mods/admin

but like bit of an overreaction

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by CharlieO

dick move from mods/admin

but like bit of an overreaction

Yeah it wasn't us..........

Shame Matt, I always enjoy the Razzies