[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Deaths and Cases Both Up.

Infections up by 100% in seven DAYS !!


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Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Deaths and Cases Both Up.

To be fair we have no idea if deaths are up and if they are, it's not by much.

This is why I told y'all not to start blaring the trumpets for "zero deaths" last Tuesday. It was bank holiday weekend, it was a rogue reporting result, it was NOT realistically zero deaths last Tuesday, and it's quite simply "bad stats" to pretend that it was.

But nooo everyone wanted the "pick-me-up" of pretending there had been none, and now is more worried than they need to be that it's "shot back up".

Realistically, had it not been bank holiday last weekend, Tuesday deaths would (probably) have been around 10. Not zero.

[bots]

personally, i think the obvious solution is to have a period of constant bank holiday. It is the most effective measure we have against covid death

[Strictly Jake]

I can see a pattern forming once again...

[Nicky91]

all of Italy, Poland, Czech Republic, almost all of Norway from orange to yellow

travellers whom are returning to Netherlands don't have to be in quarantaine anymore

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair we have no idea if deaths are up and if they are, it's not by much.

This is why I told y'all not to start blaring the trumpets for "zero deaths" last Tuesday. It was bank holiday weekend, it was a rogue reporting result, it was NOT realistically zero deaths last Tuesday, and it's quite simply "bad stats" to pretend that it was.

But nooo everyone wanted the "pick-me-up" of pretending there had been none, and now is more worried than they need to be that it's "shot back up".

Realistically, had it not been bank holiday last weekend, Tuesday deaths would (probably) have been around 10. Not zero.

our deaths amid a wave had been constantly in 10's


and yes this is a wave you guys are in i think, but more because of the Delta variant, don't think you guys should be going back to more lockdowns since people won't obey to those anymore either, i think best thing now is to keep telling people to stick to distancing, wearing of face masks, but still giving them the rest of their freedoms apart from those basic easy to follow measures

and keep vaccinating of course, since that has proven it helps

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

…one of the more older ones vaccinated first just so that he could be arrested, silly sausage…

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I can see a pattern forming once again...

It’s on the way back up yes.

And people are still banging on about holidays. Lol.

[bots]

people need to realize that uncertainty is going to be with us for the foreseeable future. We may well be able to remove social distancing at some point, but only when it's safe to do so, and right now, that comes in baby steps until we get a fuller picture.

Vaccinated people shouldnt need to isolate for 10 days after a negative test either, it's totally over the top, but it will sort itself out when we have a bit more confidence with the effectiveness of vaccination

[Nicky91]

Belgium: the pubs/bars are allowed to receive visitors for the first time since october last year, they can remain open until 22:00 PM

indoors is allowed up to 200 people to watch Euro2020 matches, outdoors is allowed up to 400 people, reservations beforehand is a must, and everyone must wear a face mask


casino's, indoor playgrounds, cinema's also reopen

and employees can go to office (those who work in offices) one day in the week, also rules around hugging have been relaxed slightly


of 11.5 million population, 5 million have had at least a first vaccine dose

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It’s on the way back up yes.

And people are still banging on about holidays. Lol.

Yes Cocky Richard Madeley (GMBHD itv)
told MP Jenrick
he is Driving to France in July.


He said
him and his Wife will do the 10 day Isolation

[bots]

About 8 in 10 adults in the UK had antibodies to coronavirus by 17 May, according to the latest data from the Office for National Statistics.

The figures are 83% for adults in Wales, 80% in England and Northern Ireland and a slightly lower 73% for Scotland.

They're up from 77% for Wales, 76% for England, 75% for Northern Ireland and 69% for Scotland - the week before.

Antibodies are evidence of vaccination or past infection which help the body fight illness.

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I can see a pattern forming once again...

don't panic just yet, only 3 are in hospital who have been double jabbed, a handful single jabbed, the vast majority in with the Delta variant are unvaccinated

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

don't panic just yet, only 3 are in hospital who have been double jabbed, a handful single jabbed, the vast majority in with the Delta variant are unvaccinated

Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



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Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



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Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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i don't trust hancock but i do trust things like the ONS reports and the people in charge of health in the particular areas. Even Burnham has said get out and live your lives, and he was Mr Doom last year

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: todays numbers

1.791 new cases 334 more than yesterday but still average keeps decreasing

834 total hospitalisations (55 new hospitalisations)

304 total ICU patients

both of these is lowest total since October 4th


5 new deaths

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



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Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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Everyone know vaccines don't cover 100% and that was stated quite clearly from the start and on SKY news which you are very fond of!

You don't know what underlying issues these 3 have, maybe they are in remission from cancer and the vaccine didn't work so well with other drugs, no one nowhere said vaccines would protect EVERYONE but they will protect the vast MAJORITY

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

makes me angry, what is a another month to wait, the lack of patience is astounding

[arista]

Wednesday 9/6/21

6 Died
7,540 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,024

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
154


127,860 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Note The Total Deaths has come down