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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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Today You Gov poll
gives Labour a first lead. ref: All Out Politics SkyNewsHD Labour 35% (+1) Conservatives 33% (-5) LibDem 10% (+2) Reform UK 5% (+2) [Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer would 'back wealth taxes' to fund social care reform but refuses to reveal plan The Labour leader has been criticised by his own party for failing to offer an alternative to the government's social care reform plans.] https://news.sky.com/story/labour-le...-plan-12403176 Beth Rigby SkyNewsHD spent a day with Keir he went into a Teen Politics class Up North. Last edited by arista; 10-09-2021 at 11:04 AM. |
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Labour has been trying to get support with those policies for some time, sadly with this terrible Tory government I don't have faith . |
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Remembering Kerry
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Starmer needs to start hammering these kind of messages home more and more. It's a tough ask to win power at the next election outright.. However with the SNP in the main, more supportive of social decency policies. The strong anti Con make up of opposition parties at Westminster. Apart from the DUP that is. Then the Cons overall majority could easily be removed strongly at the next election. Paving the way for a Labour led government with hopefully SNP support. Things like those simple statements above from Starmer are relevant and as I said should have been done already.. Glad you think so too. |
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I guess we'll have to see what happens next . It's all important , and it affects not just us but the next generation. |
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The voice of reason
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i cant see this dinosaur party ever ever winning again
we have all moved on |
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From Politics Live BBC2HD
Keir Starmer wants to change how they elect a Labour Leader he wants to return to the MP's to pick the leader before Ed Miliboy' changed it, in 2015. Last edited by arista; 21-09-2021 at 12:13 PM. |
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Piss orf.
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Imagine being less popular as a leader of your party than jeremy corbyn was.
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Debate on Politics Live BBC2HD
is saying why Starmer must change the rules. Last edited by arista; 22-09-2021 at 10:46 AM. |
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It is beyond my own understanding why Starmer is creating this issue now.
His first major conference as leader coming up. This will be the distraction in the media, overblown as to its importance. It has me just about starting to think Starmer isn't too bothered about winning the next election. We have mountains to climb not just one. If Johnson gets the election done after the new boundary changes come into play, then that gives the Cons more seats and Labour a few less on 2019 anyway. So to raise this election of leader issue seems to me, an unnecessary waste of time and energy. Not to mention the discord this could cause throughout the Labour movement. I'm really puzzled as to Starmer actually. Last edited by joeysteele; 22-09-2021 at 11:25 AM. |
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They are saying he wants to get it done first,
get it out of the way, on Saturday first day of the Labour Conference. It was the Voting System that got Corbyn, elected. Thats whats going down. And he still wants to Win the next General Election. Last edited by arista; 22-09-2021 at 12:09 PM. |
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Remembering Kerry
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It's the system that got him elected too. |
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One of whom nominating him was Margaret Beckett unbelievably. There were other surprising names too nominating him among MPs. Last edited by joeysteele; 22-09-2021 at 04:46 PM. |
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