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Yeah he was not even there for 12 hours! I imagine a lot of the hospitilisations are not serious / life threatening, especially with deaths being low
and he would have counted as a hospital admission
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Netherlands: more nations from Orange to Yellow

Cyprus, Croatia (apart from northern region of capital Zagreb), Liechtenstein, Switzerland

also for the Greek islands in the Aegean Sea like Kos, Mykonos, Rhodos



Iceland, Romania, Poland even better from Yellow to Green
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Remdesivir the drug Trump lauded as saving him and everyone scoffed at has been approved by the NHS
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…where is this reported, Cherie…?…I can’t find the articles…
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https://www.thelocal.de/20210615/exp...rce-next-week/

Germany: new rules on masks that comes into force next week

Several German states announced on Tuesday that they were relaxing rules on mandatory mask wearing. We break down what the new rules are state-by-state.

Baden-Württemberg has confirmed that it will relax the obligation to wear masks in schools.

The relaxations will only apply in districts where the seven-day incidence of infection is below 35 cases per 100,000 and there has been no outbreak at the school for two weeks. If that is the case, masks will no longer be required “in classes in all types of schools,” state health minister Manne Lucha said in Stuttgart on Tuesday.

The new rules will come into effect at the end of next week.

Lucha raised the possibility of relaxing the mask-wearing rules in other areas, such as outside in public spaces, in well-ventilated train stations and at bus stops but stopped short of making a specific commitment.

State leader Winfried Kretschmann suggested that the south-western state would move slowly on ending mask-wearing rules. Warning that ending the rules too quickly could end in a fourth wave of infections, he said: “Let’s not be cocky, otherwise we will pay bitterly.”

The southern state of Bavaria has no immediate plans to relax its rules on masks. “I advise restraint here,” said state leader Markus Söder on Monday in Munich.

Arguing that “premature relaxations have proven to be a mistake in the past,” Söder said “we shouldn’t always disregard everything when the skies clear up.”

Nonetheless, in the state capital of Munich, the requirement to wear masks in the inner city was ended on June 9th.

Berlin has decided to end some of its mask-wearing rules. In the capital, masks will no longer have to be worn on the pavements of shopping streets and in busy squares, as has been mandatory since late last year. Masks still have to be worn in outdoor areas where social distancing isn’t possible.

Masks will also no longer be required outdoors at the zoo, Berlin’s Senate decided on Tuesday.

But there will be no change to the rules for buses and trains: FFP2 masks will continue to be a requirement on public transport.

The rules in the capital still have to be confirmed but are set to change early next week.

In view of low infection rates in the north of the country, the Hamburg senate has loosened its mask rules. Outdoor mask wearing will now only be required on the weekend in crowded areas.

The port city will keep hold of its mask rules at weekly markets and indoors as well as on public transport.

In the north-eastern state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, masks will no longer be required outdoors as of next week. The rule change was confirmed by state leader Manuela Schwesig on Tuesday, who also said that tourists would now only need to present a negative test upon arrival in the state, which is a popular summer vacation destination.

In North Rhine-Westphalia, the state government has relaxed the rules on wearing masks in public transport. From now on a medical mask will suffice where once an FFP2 mask was necessary. Germany’s most populous state has also ended the requirement for children to wear masks inside the classroom.

As of next Monday masks will no longer be required in classrooms in any school in Rhineland-Palatinate. State education minister Stefanie Hubig confirmed the move to DPA on Tuesday.

Hubig said though that masks would have to be worn on the way to the classroom. Meanwhile, the new rule is only valid as long as the seven-day incidence of infection remains below a value of 35, she added.
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Germany: new rules on masks that comes into force next week

Several German states announced on Tuesday that they were relaxing rules on mandatory mask wearing. We break down what the new rules are state-by-state.

Baden-Württemberg has confirmed that it will relax the obligation to wear masks in schools.

The relaxations will only apply in districts where the seven-day incidence of infection is below 35 cases per 100,000 and there has been no outbreak at the school for two weeks. If that is the case, masks will no longer be required “in classes in all types of schools,” state health minister Manne Lucha said in Stuttgart on Tuesday.

The new rules will come into effect at the end of next week.

Lucha raised the possibility of relaxing the mask-wearing rules in other areas, such as outside in public spaces, in well-ventilated train stations and at bus stops but stopped short of making a specific commitment.

State leader Winfried Kretschmann suggested that the south-western state would move slowly on ending mask-wearing rules. Warning that ending the rules too quickly could end in a fourth wave of infections, he said: “Let’s not be cocky, otherwise we will pay bitterly.”

The southern state of Bavaria has no immediate plans to relax its rules on masks. “I advise restraint here,” said state leader Markus Söder on Monday in Munich.

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Nonetheless, in the state capital of Munich, the requirement to wear masks in the inner city was ended on June 9th.

Berlin has decided to end some of its mask-wearing rules. In the capital, masks will no longer have to be worn on the pavements of shopping streets and in busy squares, as has been mandatory since late last year. Masks still have to be worn in outdoor areas where social distancing isn’t possible.

Masks will also no longer be required outdoors at the zoo, Berlin’s Senate decided on Tuesday.

But there will be no change to the rules for buses and trains: FFP2 masks will continue to be a requirement on public transport.

The rules in the capital still have to be confirmed but are set to change early next week.

In view of low infection rates in the north of the country, the Hamburg senate has loosened its mask rules. Outdoor mask wearing will now only be required on the weekend in crowded areas.

The port city will keep hold of its mask rules at weekly markets and indoors as well as on public transport.

In the north-eastern state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania, masks will no longer be required outdoors as of next week. The rule change was confirmed by state leader Manuela Schwesig on Tuesday, who also said that tourists would now only need to present a negative test upon arrival in the state, which is a popular summer vacation destination.

In North Rhine-Westphalia, the state government has relaxed the rules on wearing masks in public transport. From now on a medical mask will suffice where once an FFP2 mask was necessary. Germany’s most populous state has also ended the requirement for children to wear masks inside the classroom.

As of next Monday masks will no longer be required in classrooms in any school in Rhineland-Palatinate. State education minister Stefanie Hubig confirmed the move to DPA on Tuesday.

Hubig said though that masks would have to be worn on the way to the classroom. Meanwhile, the new rule is only valid as long as the seven-day incidence of infection remains below a value of 35, she added.

Getting the pupils to wear masks in school is virtually impossible to enforce and it has been a nightmare in our high school - still probably one of the worst hit areas in the whole country - infections wise

Currently I’d guess it’s 50/50 split of mask wearers in the corridors but a higher % in class situations where it’s easier to enforce


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…where is this reported, Cherie…?…I can’t find the articles…
I can't find a link yet either, it has been on LBC news, will post as soon as I find one

here it is

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mp-rolled-nhs/
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I can't find a link yet either, it has been on LBC news, will post as soon as I find one
…yeah no worries, I was just trying to find it because I wasn’t aware of the drug and I couldn’t find anything updated since WHO opposed it last September time…sometimes I feel that news can be a little slower to reach the internet when we used to always hear it here first…
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"For every 100 patients treated, experts calculate, it would save six lives."

So its useful but i don't think it classifies as ground breaking. You cant get the treatment if you have been vaccinated as you already have antibodies
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Hmm more info needed on that stat. Does it mean that 94 of the treated patients would die and 6 wold survive, or would MOST be likely to survive anyway and 6-more-than-before survive. Because that completely alters the effectiveness.

At face value if they would otherwise have all died it's 6% effective... but if only 20 would have died of the 100 but now only 14 die it's 30% effective. And of course, if 94 would have recovered and now all recover, it's 100% effective.
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Covid-19 vaccines from Pfizer Inc. and AstraZeneca Plc are highly effective after two doses at preventing hospitalization of those infected with the delta variant, underscoring the urgency in getting people fully protected, according to health authorities in England.

The Pfizer and BioNTech SE shot is 96% effective against hospitalization after two doses, while the AstraZeneca and University of Oxford Covid inoculation is 92% effective, according to an analysis announced Monday by Public Health England. Those results are comparable with the protection offered against the alpha variant, which first emerged in Britain, the data show.
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Margate must be packed. Most people got off there.
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Netherlands todays numbers (daily new cases and new deaths to follow bit later on)

1.040 new cases 18 less than yesterday

605 total hospitalisations 14 Less than Yesterday

366 total on the nursing wards 29 Less than yesterday

239 total ICU patients 11 Less than yesterday

4 new deaths 1 more than yesterday but still 4 less than the average of 8 new deaths the week before
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Netherlands: face mask compulsory no longer as of June 26th, also no longer the advice to work from home as much as possible

both of which for places where 1.5 metre distancing is possible


face mask compulsory for public transport remains, as for face masks in supermarket a decision will come on friday


with no longer the advice to work from home, people will be encouraged to go back to work whenever there is 1.5 metre distancing possible
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both of which for places where 1.5 metre distancing is possible


face mask compulsory for public transport remains, as for face masks in supermarket a decision will come on friday


with no longer the advice to work from home, people will be encouraged to go back to work whenever there is 1.5 metre distancing possible




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so Delta variant symptoms are similar to normal cold


also it might be in my nation, among age group of 13-19, which our RIVM/OMT are looking into
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I’m seeing and hearing this idea that Covid19 was indeed created in a lab.

This idea was mentioned 15 months ago but it’s now back in the discussion.

I did hear a specialist bacteriologist saying last week that THIS pandemic is noticeably different than ANY other pandemic... he mentioned that it’s supposedly presenting as a synthetic virus


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The Health Secretary
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for Care homes all staff must be vaccinated

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