[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Raph

I'd like to say, if you look at the thread I created about Mollie, I was extremely hurt by it but at the same time noted how much I valued the member and how it didn't change anything for me. For me it doesn't matter that the member lied to me about their identity at all. It's what inside that counts, and I thought they were the most lovely, kind, caring person ever. So I don't feel like i'm being hypocritical at all, but it's okay if you think that, I respect your opinion

You what? It didn't bother you and he is a lovely person? Then why we're you a massive **** in ousting them? It's like saying you ran over someone because they pissed you off but you really do love them so it's all okay. This whole nice guy portrayal you have is a load of bull and the way you forced out that situation was disgusting. If that is how you treat friends then good luck to you and even more so to your friends.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ben

You what? It didn't bother you and he is a lovely person? Then why we're you a massive **** in ousting them? It's like saying you ran over someone because they pissed you off but you really do love them so it's all okay. This whole nice guy portrayal you have is a load of bull and the way you forced out that situation was disgusting. If that is how you treat friends then good luck to you and even more so to your friends.

I don't think that is particulary fair. We can all do things in the heat of the moment that we are not proud of, it doesn't mean we can't go back and try and make amends. Maybe it wasn't ideal, but neither was digging around in someones private life, and wouldn't it all have come out at some point at any rate?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't think that is particulary fair. We can all do things in the heat of the moment that we are not proud of, it doesn't mean we can't go back and try and make amends. Maybe it wasn't ideal, but neither was digging around in someones private life, and wouldn't it all have come out at some point at any rate?

With all due respect it isn't as rosy as a lot of people seem to think it was. I won't say anymore on the matter but I'm sick of the whole nice boy act after such harsh and unacceptable actions from him. If he doesn't want the subject dragged out, then why keep mentioning mollie/ mike?

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Ben

You what? It didn't bother you and he is a lovely person? Then why we're you a massive **** in ousting them? It's like saying you ran over someone because they pissed you off but you really do love them so it's all okay. This whole nice guy portrayal you have is a load of bull and the way you forced out that situation was disgusting. If that is how you treat friends then good luck to you and even more so to your friends.

Okay Ben, this really upsets me. First off I want to say how highly I think of you. I think you are such a nice guy, you put so much heart into this forum and that you are one of the most intelligent members on this site. Because I think so highly of you and see you as a friend, it upsets me that you responded in this way.

I was in no way a 'massive ****' in ousting them. I want to take you back to the thread I posted to remind you of how I approached the situation:

"...but here's the deal guys, I don't know who knows or anything but Mollie doesn't exist. Mollie is actually a guy. I won't go into too many details here, but I just want to say this - I genuinely believe that this guy, Mike his name is, didn't mean to do this. Well, I think he struggled with confidence and wanted to make an internet alias. That being said, Mike has the same birthday as Mollie, the same background, the same skills in designing. It's just he's Mike, not Mollie. I don't want to speak on his behalf as I don't know, but hopefully eventually he might get the courage to come on here and speak for himself.

Yeah it sucks, especially if you were as close to Mollie as I was. But you know what, it's the internet and these things happen. Whether you want to say hello to Mike or just move on from this Mollie thing, it's your choice. But I just think it's hard for everyone right now. This is why I was sad yesterday, but I am ok now. I care a lot about this person whatever happens and this 'Bridge to Terabithia' quote says it all for me, and that's how I want to end this post."

On top of that the thread I created was titled 'I love Mollie'. I did not run over Mike in any way. In fact, out of everyone on this site, I always stayed loyal to Mike throughout all of this. Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike, but I really never was cause I loved him and still do love him. And that is also why I'm voting for him in Most Loved, if I do vote, because I really love him so much. And your last part about 'that's how you treat your friends', I've only treated Mike with respect and kindness, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Also, just so you know, I was going to come from Switzerland to the UK this summer to see 'Mollie', but even despite that I'm not angry at all, because that's how much I valued our friendship and that's why I was able to forgive him so easily.

I've always liked you and cared about you a lot Ben, but I just had to defend myself in this situation. Come on buddy, we're the Hira fans together after all!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike

Not really fair that, at the time we said what we'd be like in that situation, and yes I did say to not be too hasty in forgiving, but that was only my point of view

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Raph

Okay Ben, this really upsets me. First off I want to say how highly I think of you. I think you are such a nice guy, you put so much heart into this forum and that you are one of the most intelligent members on this site. Because I think so highly of you and see you as a friend, it upsets me that you responded in this way.

I was in no way a 'massive ****' in ousting them. I want to take you back to the thread I posted to remind you of how I approached the situation:

"...but here's the deal guys, I don't know who knows or anything but Mollie doesn't exist. Mollie is actually a guy. I won't go into too many details here, but I just want to say this - I genuinely believe that this guy, Mike his name is, didn't mean to do this. Well, I think he struggled with confidence and wanted to make an internet alias. That being said, Mike has the same birthday as Mollie, the same background, the same skills in designing. It's just he's Mike, not Mollie. I don't want to speak on his behalf as I don't know, but hopefully eventually he might get the courage to come on here and speak for himself.

Yeah it sucks, especially if you were as close to Mollie as I was. But you know what, it's the internet and these things happen. Whether you want to say hello to Mike or just move on from this Mollie thing, it's your choice. But I just think it's hard for everyone right now. This is why I was sad yesterday, but I am ok now. I care a lot about this person whatever happens and this 'Bridge to Terabithia' quote says it all for me, and that's how I want to end this post."

On top of that the thread I created was titled 'I love Mollie'. I did not run over Mike in any way. In fact, out of everyone on this site, I always stayed loyal to Mike throughout all of this. Drew and all these other people told me to be mad at Mike, but I really never was cause I loved him and still do love him. And that is also why I'm voting for him in Most Loved, if I do vote, because I really love him so much. And your last part about 'that's how you treat your friends', I've only treated Mike with respect and kindness, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

Also, just so you know, I was going to come from Switzerland to the UK this summer to see 'Mollie', but even despite that I'm not angry at all, because that's how much I valued our friendship and that's why I was able to forgive him so easily.

I've always liked you and cared about you a lot Ben, but I just had to defend myself in this situation. Come on buddy, we're the Hira fans together after all!

..Raph, I know that you've accepted that 'Mollie' doesn't exist..and maybe Mike has the same design skills, background etc...but I don't feel that you are fully seeing what he actually did unless you're seeing the whole Mike and not being selective over stuff...Mike deceived the people who trusted him and he allowed someone to invest time, money and emotion into meeting him, knowing that meeting couldn't take place..he also used pics of someone who is unaware that they're being posted on a forum....and also Raph, if Drew or any of your other friends gave you any advice, it was because Drew himself had just experienced something similar with another member..so that advise was given as an act of friendship...

[Novo]

leave that poor kid alone you Animals, he has been through enough pain this year.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Novo

leave that poor kid alone you Animals, he has been through enough pain this year.

thanks It's so true though i've had the most difficult year ever, it's been such a nightmare

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Raph

I'd like to say, if you look at the thread I created about Mollie, I was extremely hurt by it but at the same time noted how much I valued the member and how it didn't change anything for me. For me it doesn't matter that the member lied to me about their identity at all. It's what inside that counts, and I thought they were the most lovely, kind, caring person ever. So I don't feel like i'm being hypocritical at all, but it's okay if you think that, I respect your opinion

Well it's not all about you Raph, there were lots of people that the member lied to so maybe you could consider other peoples feelings..

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Josy

Well it's not all about you Raph, there were lots of people that the member lied to so maybe you could consider other peoples feelings..

I'm really sorry, I really don't mean to cause problems It's just this is most loved and I really loved Mollie a lot. But i'm really sorry if I upset you

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by Raph

I'm really sorry, I really don't mean to cause problems It's just this is most loved and I really loved Mollie a lot. But i'm really sorry if I upset you

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Drew.]

its been that long iv forgot who Mollie is

[Shaun]

[Ramsay]

lay it into him josy!!! finish him!!!!

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Karl

lay it into him josy!!! finish him!!!!

Aw, it's easy to do that, I just submit to people because I hate offending or upsetting anyone I just want everyone to be in harmony and get along

[Shaun]

scott can we start a business that sells photos of unimpressed women to clients

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

yes omfg

[Shaun]

"no ma'am i'm sorry we're all out of meryl streep gifs for today"
*rolls eyes and pushes the geeky intern back under my desk to finish me off whilst i seal the deal*

[Ramsay]

marry me shaun

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Karl

marry me shaun

this one is on the house

[Ramsay]

[Brother Leon]

[Jake.]

Jesus Josy, you bloody brute!