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Jayson · 10-08-2010, 08:00 PM

But they're still better than the WWE's Womens and Cruiserweight/X Division.

RichardWells · 10-08-2010, 08:26 PM

Well that's not hard is it lol as WWE doesn't have a cruiserweight division anymore.

Ramsay · 10-08-2010, 08:27 PM

John Cena is actually a very good wrestler
its just his gimmick and the managment restrict his moves

RichardWells · 10-08-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl.

John Cena is actually a very good wrestler
its just his gimmick and the managment restrict his moves

John Cena always delivers the big main event matches and is a true company guy.

Their is no more reason to respect him really.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardWells

John Cena always delivers the big main event matches and is a true company guy.

Their is no more reason to respect him really.

He tries far to hard to be likeable, wrestlers like the Rock, Stone Cold, Even Y2J in his face days didn't have to even try they just got cheered for being who they are.. Cena has to suck up to the fans week in week out and say little cheesy one liners to impress the audience, the definition of a one trick pony = John Cena

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Novo

He tries far to hard to be likeable, wrestlers like the Rock, Stone Cold, Even Y2J in his face days didn't have to even try they just got cheered for being who they are.. Cena has to suck up to the fans week in week out and say little cheesy one liners to impress the audience, the definition of a one trick pony = John Cena

Well that is what John Cena is scripted to do.

Blame Vince McMahon, don't blame Cena.

Iceman · 13-08-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

He tries far to hard to be likeable, wrestlers like the Rock, Stone Cold, Even Y2J in his face days didn't have to even try they just got cheered for being who they are.. Cena has to suck up to the fans week in week out and say little cheesy one liners to impress the audience, the definition of a one trick pony = John Cena

This

Also he can't wrestle.....

LaLaLand · 13-08-2010, 12:56 PM

I haven't watched WWE regularly since about 2003 and when I do get a chance to catch it now it's such a shame to see how it has nose-dived in terms of product.

I'm a fan more of the women wrestlers (watching shows like SHIMMER) and to see the sorry excuses they have now of female "wrestlers" is sickening. The women's champion is dire and I found out she came from a model contest? I do like that Alicia Fox is it? She has potential.

Compare today's action to this...

Chicago Street Fight - Victoria vs. Trish Stratus (feat. Jazz)

The attack from Jazz at the end is just epic, she was such a tough b!tch. Shame now it's all about looks and being 'model like', if it wasn't we wouldn't get the sh!te we get now.

King Gizzard · 13-08-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardWells

Well that is what John Cena is scripted to do.

Blame Vince McMahon, don't blame Cena.

Exactly

King Gizzard · 13-08-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl.

John Cena is actually a very good wrestler
its just his gimmick and the managment restrict his moves

This too.

Iceman · 13-08-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonnii

I haven't watched WWE regularly since about 2003 and when I do get a chance to catch it now it's such a shame to see how it has nose-dived in terms of product.

I'm a fan more of the women wrestlers (watching shows like SHIMMER) and to see the sorry excuses they have now of female "wrestlers" is sickening. The women's champion is dire and I found out she came from a model contest? I do like that Alicia Fox is it? She has potential.

Compare today's action to this...

Chicago Street Fight - Victoria vs. Trish Stratus (feat. Jazz)

The attack from Jazz at the end is just epic, she was such a tough b!tch. Shame now it's all about looks and being 'model like', if it wasn't we wouldn't get the sh!te we get now.

Basically when WWF put ECW/WCW out of business they stopped trying......they've become lazy and boring, they put on 1 match a year that stands out (usually involved HBK or undertaker).....it's pathetic.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 01:27 PM

John cena should not be a main eventer. Edge and Y2J make him look ****e. it's as simple as that

Iceman · 13-08-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

John cena should not be a main eventer. Edge and Y2J make him look ****e. it's as simple as that

Hell Seamus makes him look like S***, the improvment of seamus has been amazing to watch the past year or so......

Also hat's the PPV after this?

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

John cena should not be a main eventer. Edge and Y2J make him look ****e. it's as simple as that

No it's not as simple as that.

I am an Edge fan but even I can see how injuries have taken their toll on him.

He doesn't look as crisp now in the ring as he used too.

Y2J is still great though.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

Hell Seamus makes him look like S***, the improvment of seamus has been amazing to watch the past year or so......

Also hat's the PPV after this?

Sheamus has a weird sort of Charisma about him as well, his interview on SSN was classic

Survivor series i think?

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 01:39 PM

The next PPV after SummerSlam is Night of Champions on Sept 19th.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardWells

No it's not as simple as that.

I am an Edge fan but even I can see how injuries have taken their toll on him.

He doesn't look as crisp now in the ring as he used too.

Y2J is still great though.

A 50% Edge is still better then a 100% Cena

Like i said Cena is a one trick pony and he always will be.. nothing is ever going to change that he has been doing the same thing for the past 5 years

Iceman · 13-08-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

Sheamus has a weird sort of Charisma about him as well, his interview on SSN was classic

Survivor series i think?

Yeah he does doesn't he?

I agree that giving him the belt came a few months too soon, but he's excelling at the moment....

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

A 50% Edge is still better then a 100% Cena

Like i said Cena is a one trick pony and he always will be.. nothing is ever going to change that he has been doing the same thing for the past 5 years

And been very successful at it.

Nobody gets a reaction like Cena does and is the WWE's biggest star.

If you deny that then you really are blind.

Oh and I'm not really even a major Cena fan and yet I know this.

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 04:36 PM

Mike Johnson of PWInsider has confirmed that former WWE star Lance Cade (Lance McNaught) has passed away at age 29. No further details are known at this time.

Cade had been battling addictions to sleeping pills and painkillers on and off, including an incident back in October 2008 on an airplance where he took too many painkillers and went into seizure and the flight had to be diverted in order to save his life. He was released from WWE after the incident.

One year later in October 2009, WWE signed him back to another deal and he spend some time in Florida Championship Wrestling. This past April, Cade was again released from WWE and was never used on television during his time back with the company. He had worked some independent and Japanese dates since his WWE release. Cade leaves behind two daughters in his passing.

We will continue to follow this story as it develops.

Update (12:23 p.m. ET): Multiple sources now indicating Cade passed away due to heart failure.

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Multiple sources have reported that Lance Cade passed away a few hours ago of heart failure. Our condolences go out to his family & friends

World Wrestling Entertainment was informed Friday morning by Lance McNaught’s father that he has passed away of apparent heart failure. WWE extends its deepest condolences to the McNaught family. Mr. McNaught was under contract from March 2003 to October 2008 and performed under the name "Lance Cade." He returned to FCW, WWE’s developmental territory, in September 2009, and was released in April 2010.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardWells

And been very successful at it.

Nobody gets a reaction like Cena does and is the WWE's biggest star.

If you deny that then you really are blind.

Oh and I'm not really even a major Cena fan and yet I know this.

He gets booe'd to **** at certain venues... the kids love him.. that's about it. he doesn't even get 25% of the pop stone cold and Rock got back in the day.

He is ****e

face it

Jayson · 13-08-2010, 04:48 PM

Another wrestler dead. RIP

Ramsay · 13-08-2010, 04:53 PM

RIP Lance Cade

RichardWells · 13-08-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Novo

He gets booe'd to **** at certain venues... the kids love him.. that's about it. he doesn't even get 25% of the pop stone cold and Rock got back in the day.

He is ****e

face it

But he still gets a reaction whether he's booed or cheered and any reaction is better than no reaction at all.

Anyway you obviously just have it in for the man so I've done reasoning with you.

Novo · 13-08-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardWells

But he still gets a reaction whether he's booed or cheered and any reaction is better than no reaction at all.

Anyway you obviously just have it in for the man so I've done reasoning with you.

He is suppose to be a Super face so he should be getting MASSIVE pops, The reaction to him should be cheering alone not boo's.. the sensible fans know how ****e he is.

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