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[Strictly Jake]

When I clicked on this thread it went to the first page

What an eye opener. Nearly 1000 people were dying each day at the start of January and nearly 60000 daily cases and everyone was kicking off that Xmas was cancelled.

So in retrospect the numbers are unnerving but low actually. Can't believe where we were in numbers just 6 months ago!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

When I clicked on this thread it went to the first page

What an eye opener. Nearly 1000 people were dying each day at the start of January and nearly 60000 daily cases and everyone was kicking off that Xmas was cancelled.

So in retrospect the numbers are unnerving but low actually. Can't believe where we were in numbers just 6 months ago!

Yes, we have improved.
Posting Newspapers helps see so much as well.

On the First Post
I added the 2 Former threads
Check Shaun's 1st thread
that is a shocker of data.

[Strictly Jake]

Also when cases first started coming here a lot of us on here thought it wouldn't be a pandemic. It's crazy how fast it all changed reading through all the threads...

Massive headline news at the time when 1 person caught the virus a day. Now it's just shrugged off regardless of the number.

Apparently it is ok because of the vaccines we have now. A lot of officials in the older threads were quoted as saying a vaccine wouldnt work. This was in march last year.

Do the vaccines work against the new variants and if they are so effective then why do people need boosters in autumn when the vast majority have only just had their second dose. How often will these boosters be needed?

Sorry to be doom and gloom but I think we are going in for a big shock quite soon

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, we have improved.
Posting Newspapers helps see so much as well.

On the First Post
I added the 2 Former threads
Check Shaun's 1st thread
that is a shocker of data.

a big thank you to you Arista for keeping this going, it's a brilliant reference thread

[arista]

[Covid jabs 'will be offered to 16 and 17-year-olds
before schools return in September' Ministers
want to give jabs to children for if medical experts
say it's safe to do so
Plans would see all students aged
16 and 17 offered a vaccine in August
Source said it can 'only be a
good thing' to cut virus transmission among teens]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...September.html


I hope more Youngers
go for this Vaccine.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Also when cases first started coming here a lot of us on here thought it wouldn't be a pandemic. It's crazy how fast it all changed reading through all the threads...

Massive headline news at the time when 1 person caught the virus a day. Now it's just shrugged off regardless of the number.

Apparently it is ok because of the vaccines we have now. A lot of officials in the older threads were quoted as saying a vaccine wouldnt work. This was in march last year.

Do the vaccines work against the new variants and if they are so effective then why do people need boosters in autumn when the vast majority have only just had their second dose. How often will these boosters be needed?

Sorry to be doom and gloom but I think we are going in for a big shock quite soon

already posted Jake, the data is very good

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

New real-world study data from Public Health England (PHE) has demonstrated that two doses of either Pfizer/BioNTech or AstraZeneca’s (AZ) COVID-19 vaccines are ‘highly’ effective against the Delta variant (previously known as the Indian variant).
The study included 14,019 individuals in England who had tested positive for the Delta variant, of which 166 were hospitalised between 12 April and 4 June.
According to the data, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 96% effective against hospitalisation or death caused by the Delta variant following two doses.
The AZ vaccine was 92% effective against hospitalisation or death from the Delta variant after two doses.
The data also showed that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 94% effective at preventing hospitalisation, while AZ’s jab was 71% effective after the first dose.

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: no more weekly press conference from now on, no more outbreak management team meetings

we have fully opened up now (officially as of June 26th) but still, the partying in parks won't be stopped anymore either by police

[Nicky91]

my government made the right decision i think to reopen things now, when new cases, hospitalisation, ICU/ventilator totals are at a low peak in almost 8 or 9 months

good to work on the economy during this time too, but also good we decide to stick with 1.5 metre distancing society anyway



i feel for the UK, you guys were so close to reopening things, relaxing measures and now came the Delta variant with increase in the numbers

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Also when cases first started coming here a lot of us on here thought it wouldn't be a pandemic. It's crazy how fast it all changed reading through all the threads...

Massive headline news at the time when 1 person caught the virus a day. Now it's just shrugged off regardless of the number.

Apparently it is ok because of the vaccines we have now. A lot of officials in the older threads were quoted as saying a vaccine wouldnt work. This was in march last year.

Do the vaccines work against the new variants and if they are so effective then why do people need boosters in autumn when the vast majority have only just had their second dose. How often will these boosters be needed?

Sorry to be doom and gloom but I think we are going in for a big shock quite soon

Booster schedule will most likely run similarly to the original so anyone who has just hade 2nd dose or not had 2nd dose yet isn't going to be first in line for a booster... it will start again from the most-elderly-and-vulnerable who were all being vaccinated right back at the beginning of the year. So, 6-9 months before the booster I guess.

Also boosters aren't uncommon for vaccinations and needing one booster doesn't necessarily mean repeated boosters will be necessary at all. Will just depend on whatever data emerges after they start giving them.

It's feasible that beyond this booster, further vaccinations will only be needed if there's a "shift" in the virus from a mutation that's large enough for it to become unrecognisable to current antibodies. Touch wood, despite occasional worries, there's currently little evidence that this has or will happen.

[bots]

from my small data sample, people are pretty much ignoring most restrictions now. They still respect social distancing to a certain extent, but everything else has gone out the window

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

from my small data sample, people are pretty much ignoring most restrictions now. They still respect social distancing to a certain extent, but everything else has gone out the window

More alarmingly, on Saturday I saw 3 people without masks on the way round the supermarket. Now to be fair, that's 3 people out of probably well over a hundred people I walked past, but I haven't seen ANYONE in a shop without a mask since probably last October...

[bots]

the numbers seem to be ticking up in Scotland now, as seems par for the course, 3 or 4 weeks after england gets it Scotland follows. And having just had 20k people in london where its on the rise, they are going to import a load of delta back into scotland

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

from my small data sample, people are pretty much ignoring most restrictions now. They still respect social distancing to a certain extent, but everything else has gone out the window

yes same, lots of hugging going on, I am a bit of a loner in the back off stakes, not sure why some people are taking it as a personal affront

I wouldn't mind but one of these people was hospitalised over Christmas with covid and now says she has long covid, but get up into my face why don't you!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

[Covid jabs 'will be offered to 16 and 17-year-olds
before schools return in September' Ministers
want to give jabs to children for if medical experts
say it's safe to do so
Plans would see all students aged
16 and 17 offered a vaccine in August
Source said it can 'only be a
good thing' to cut virus transmission among teens]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...September.html


I hope more Youngers
go for this Vaccine.

So maybe vaccinate some year 11s ( the ones that agree ) but none of the others in the school ?


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[arista]

Johnson PM on Both News Channels
says 19th of July
is the date he hopes for.

Going on about Flu and saying Nothing New,


Except Johnson Did Confirm after July 19th
More Lockdowns may happen.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...inter-12337719

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So maybe vaccinate some year 11s ( the ones that agree ) but none of the others in the school ?

No, they do not want to go that low in age

[Cherie]

Pfizer has been approved for over 16s for some time, at least get them done, then see what's what

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays hospitalisation, ICU/ventilator totals

total of hospitalisations from yesterday 533 to now 491

total of ICU/ventilator from yesterday 200 to now 197

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the numbers seem to be ticking up in Scotland now, as seems par for the course, 3 or 4 weeks after england gets it Scotland follows. And having just had 20k people in london where its on the rise, they are going to import a load of delta back into scotland

i don't know what you guys are doing wrong


because audiences are perfectly capable at football matches or literally any event, if managed well with proper strict testing guidelines, or proof of vaccination or proof of having had covid but recovered

or that must be that the people themselves are just lacklustre in UK going to other places than the football stadium too


because here we perfectly managed with our fieldlab test events and now we can organize events again here under same rules/guidelines