[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Z

I really don't know how I'm going to vote anymore. I thought I was against independence for the longest time but now I'm on the fence.

vote for a fairer future

be positive

[Nedusa]

Most Scots if they do their homework will find that they are currently favourably served by the Union and so why fix it if it aint broke. From free prescriptions to free Student grants to free old peoples homes Scotland does quite well when compared to their English cousins.

But it's not really about the head it's more a feeling from the heart, it's about a Country deciding it's own fate, making it's own laws and standing (or falling) on it's own feet.

This is a great opportunity for Scotland to finally decide it's own fate and I for one hope they achieve Independence but have a feeling they will narrowly vote to stay in the Union.




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[the truth]

i think they should do whatever is best for scotland.....it will come down to economics mainly....trade, taxes, self determination, the pound etc
I really wish them well if they do go it alone....fantastic country on the whole. perhaps as an independent nation they may have a better chance of tackling the issues of crime drugs binge drinking as the rule makers will be closer to home. its never an ideal situation to be run by another country.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

i think they should do whatever is best for scotland.....it will come down to economics mainly....trade, taxes, self determination, the pound etc
I really wish them well if they do go it alone....fantastic country on the whole. perhaps as an independent nation they may have a better chance of tackling the issues of crime drugs binge drinking as the rule makers will be closer to home. its never an ideal situation to be run by another country.

This is a big part of the issue for me. There are issues in Scottish towns that are genuinely unique to Scotland (and I've lived in a comparable northern English town), and I don't think they'll ever be tackled properly without significantly more power to do so based closer to home. London politics will never come close to a solution and current devolution isn't enough - several recent policies (ATOS, bedroom tax) are compounding the problems. It doesn't help that many of those issues are firmly rooted in Thatcher's 1980's either...

[Kizzy]

I heard the queen is very cross

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I heard the queen is very cross

Yes under the Rules
has agreed to stay out of it.



http://news.sky.com/story/1332713/pm...campaign-panic


The PM and the Labour leader
are both going to Scotland
so no PMQ's for those 2,
tomorrow
Shouting Harmen will take over the Labour side
and W. Hague for Conservative for PMQs

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes under the Rules
has agreed to stay out of it.



http://news.sky.com/story/1332713/pm...campaign-panic


The PM and the Labour leader
are both going to Scotland
so no PMQ's for those 2,
tomorrow
Shouting Harmen will take over the Labour side
and W. Hague for Conservative for PMQs

If there's one sure-fire way to increase the Yes vote polling percentage... it's by sending these three up to Scotland

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If there's one sure-fire way to increase the Yes vote polling percentage... it's by sending these three up to Scotland

Yes they do not need
the PM or Ed


its enough to say feck 'em
Vote Yes for freedom from Westminster tosh

[andybigbro]

What the yes campaign are promising. They can't be certain about it.
The risk is to high, leaving the Uk would be disastrous for Scotland.

I hate how some Scottish people need Scotland to be independent to validate themsves as Scottish.

I'm Scottish, and Scotland being an independent country isn't going to change how Scottish I am.

[Nedusa]

I heard over 100 MP's are planning to rush up to Scotland in a last minute desperate attempt to shore up the No vote.

The Yes camp are calling it " The Charge of the sh ite Brigade"



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[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that Cameron dare not set his foot in Scotland is the most telling thing imaginable

its beyond uncanny

[andybigbro]

Vote no, for security and a better opportunities.

Vote yes if you want scotland to fail.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Vote no, for security and a better opportunities.

Vote yes if you want scotland to fail.

fail at what?

fail at letting some etonian twats make our rules?

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

fail at what?

fail at letting some etonian twats make our rules?

Fail at Education, employment, security etc

Scotland is much stronger when it's part of the United Kingdom! Why anybody would want to break away from a union that's been working together since 1707 is beyond me.

It's been stated that Scotland will gain more powers in Westminster,
What the yes voters are promising CANNOT be promised.

[andybigbro]

Once scotland leave there is NO GOING BACK. I'm not willing to take the risk for my future and my families future.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Once scotland leave there is NO GOING BACK. I'm not willing to take the risk for my future and my families future.

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but you are happy to have nuclear weapons a few miles down the road, happy to go into illegal wars that have caused terrorism at home and abroad?


jesus wept

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but you are happy to have nuclear weapons a few miles down the road, happy to go into illegal wars that have caused terrorism at home and abroad?


jesus wept

Valid Points LT

[arista]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

Once scotland leave there is NO GOING BACK. I'm not willing to take the risk for my future and my families future.

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They know that


Freedom is far better

[Crimson Dynamo]

the Suns political ed just said on LBC

Cameron
Clegg
Miliband

will be gone by Christmas if its a YES next week

He says NO is in total disarray

[andybigbro]

I'm happy with Scotland having more say in Westminster, which would allow the discussions of nuclear weapons be brought up. I think to leave UK based on that is absurd. There have been so a many great things THe Uk have done together and to break away from it just hinders people in Scotland's opportunities, businesses, security.

And artista why are you so struck on getting rid of scotland?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm happy with Scotland having more say in Westminster, which would allow the discussions of nuclear weapons be brought up. I think to leave UK based on that is absurd. There have been so a many great things THe Uk have done together and to break away from it just hinders people in Scotland's opportunities, businesses, security.

And artista why are you so struck on getting rid of scotland?

What things have the "UK" done together that have been great?

[arista]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm happy with Scotland having more say in Westminster, which would allow the discussions of nuclear weapons be brought up. I think to leave UK based on that is absurd. There have been so a many great things THe Uk have done together and to break away from it just hinders people in Scotland's opportunities, businesses, security.

And artista why are you so struck on getting rid of scotland?

Because its not getting rid of it
it means Freedom for the Scottish.
and for me it kills off over 40 Labour MP's

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by arista

Because its not getting rid of it
it means Freedom for the Scottish.
and for me it kills off over 40 Labour MP's

I hate that word freedom, it's not William Wallace days ffs.

People of Scotland are FREE. Scotland is it's own country, it just has a secure unit within the United Kingdom, why ruin that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I hate that word freedom, it's not William Wallace days ffs.

People of Scotland are FREE. Scotland is it's own country, it just has a secure unit within the United Kingdom, why ruin that?

It will not.


It will become a Great Nation
and the Queen can say nothing about it
as its not her remit

[andybigbro]

Worked together in wars, helped other countries out with aid etc.

I don't see why people would want to leave, all I see it as over patriotics that feel the need to prove themselves to be Scottish.

I am voting no because it's the safer and better choice for my future and my families future, the yes campaign cannot guarantee what they are promising and when it fails there're is no going back and Scotland will be screwed.

I am not here for leaving a union that has been together since 1707 and something I have grown up with due to there being nukes in the country, which LOTS of countries have.

Oil will run out, then what Scotland? Cry to England, Wales and Nortthern Ireland for help? NO CHANCE.