[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

You don't think they regret that decision? God they must spend their days thinking "what if..." As I said I don't think what they did was right but I personally really really feel for them.

I never said they don't. I don't believe anyone can punish them more than they are being punished with the loss of a daughter.

I was referring to your comment about their actions at the time, there is no excuses for the decision they came to. No responsible parent would have reached the conclusion they did.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Lee.

No, of course not.. But somebody could have easily got in the window had they wanted to.. Obviously these things didn't even enter my mind until after maddie was taken..

But there's no evidence that an abductor came in through the window. They could have potentially opened the window and passed Madeleine out through it, but if there was an abductor, they came in through the door. The police concluded that the window hadn't been tampered with.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

what do you what zee, an apology, that will make it all right will it?

I don't want anything, I'm just pointing out the undeniable truth that it is their fault that Madeleine McCann was alone and vulnerable and nobody else's fault. If they're guilty then they've taken the world for a ride, and if they're innocent they've certainly gone about it in the most unbelievably suspicious way. What concerned parent would refuse to answer police questions? What concerned parent would obstruct the police investigation into their daughter's disappearance?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I don't want anything, I'm just pointing out the undeniable truth that it is their fault that Madeleine McCann was alone and vulnerable and nobody else's fault. If they're guilty then they've taken the world for a ride, and if they're innocent they've certainly gone about it in the most unbelievably suspicious way. What concerned parent would refuse to answer police questions? What concerned parent would obstruct the police investigation into their daughter's disappearance?

Indeed. Even if you had been made a suspect at the time which was the excuse for not answering (it usually is a close family member in abduction cases..its really not uncommon to be a suspect) you would STILL do whatever it took to find your child. I would anyway

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I never said they don't. I don't believe anyone can punish them more than they are being punished with the loss of a daughter.

I was referring to your comment about their actions at the time, there is no excuses for the decision they came to. No responsible parent would have reached the conclusion they did.

No, but harping on about it isn't going to help anybody.. Everybody, including her parents just want some sort of closure on this horrible tragic case.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

No, but harping on about it isn't going to help anybody.. Everybody, including her parents just want some sort of closure on this horrible tragic case.

Who's harping on?

People are discussing the crimewatch, and all of the information surrounding the case including the facts brought up in the reconstruction.

If you don't like it, don't engage in it.

[Kazanne]

Well it seems to be the McCanns themselves who keep bringing it up,just sayin'

[Kizzy]

By holding yourself up for public scrutiny they or anyone cannot rightly expect the public not to pass comment on their personal view on the situation as it stood at the time.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed. Even if you had been made a suspect at the time which was the excuse for not answering (it usually is a close family member in abduction cases..its really not uncommon to be a suspect) you would STILL do whatever it took to find your child. I would anyway

Tbh though looking at the questions a lot of them are pretty loaded and seem purely concerned with Kate as a suspect rather than helping the search, things that she could easily innocently trip herself up over like:

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

etc. etc.

A lot of them are very vague and answering them wouldn't particularly help things, plus she was following the advice of her lawyer in not answering them

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Tbh though looking at the questions a lot of them are pretty loaded and seem purely concerned with Kate as a suspect rather than helping the search, things that she could easily innocently trip herself up over like:

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

etc. etc.

A lot of them are very vague and answering them wouldn't particularly help things, plus she was following the advice of her lawyer in not answering them

How on earth can you trip yourself up if you didnt do anything?

I dont see the problem with any of those questions either. Seem to be trying to understand her mindset more. I do remember thinking one of them as dodgy though when I read through them, as it pretty much asked if she killed her daughter. Pretty sure that was the final question

[GypsyGoth]

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

That seems like a good question. It was mentioned in this thread that wouldn't someone's first thought be that the child had wandered off to try and find the missing parents. Rather than "they're taken her!"

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

Another good question. Although if her child was really missing without her knowledge, then I think shock can account for that.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

How on earth can you trip yourself up if you didnt do anything?

I dont see the problem with any of those questions either. Seem to be trying to understand her mindset more. I do remember thinking one of them as dodgy though when I read through them, as it pretty much asked if she killed her daughter. Pretty sure that was the final question

Because a lot of them are so vague that things can be twisted, and a lot of them also seem to imply her guilt already

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

How on earth can you trip yourself up if you didnt do anything?

Because with such vague questions, anything you say can be twisted to mean anything and once you've said it there's no going back. Which would be why the lawyer advised her to not say anything.

[Vicky.]

On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

First question. Any problem with that? No loaded, cant trip self up etc.

Many more like that too..still unanswered for some reason or another
List of the questions for those who dont know

Spoiler:

1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

8. Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

12. Who contacted the authorities?

13. Who took place in the searches?

14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

22. Did you call Sky News?

23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

24. Did you ask for a priest?

25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

27. What was your behaviour that night?

28. Did you manage to sleep?

29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?

31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?

33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

35. What is your medical specialty?

36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

37. Did you work every day?

38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?

42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Who's harping on?

People are discussing the crimewatch, and all of the information surrounding the case including the facts brought up in the reconstruction.

If you don't like it, don't engage in it.

But we all know the children were left in the apartment alone.. It's not right, but it happened...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But we all know the children were left in the apartment alone.. It's not right, but it happened...

Yes, it did. This thread is for discussing it and all of the details. I myself wasn't aware of Maddie's comments on the morning of the incident so have posted about it etc.

The case has been reopened and brought back into the public consciousness. If you don't want to discuss it, why are you in this thread?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But we all know the children were left in the apartment alone.. It's not right, but it happened...

Yes, thats not the only part of it though is it?

That said, the only facts are she was left alone and then she disappeared.

No evidence whatsoever of an abduction. No evidence of anything else.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

That seems like a good question. It was mentioned in this thread that wouldn't someone's first thought be that the child had wandered off to try and find the missing parents. Rather than "they're taken her!"

11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

Another good question. Although if her child was really missing without her knowledge, then I think shock can account for that.

as for the first question, I think as a mother if your child wasn't in her bed and in a foreign place, you'd know. I'm not a mother obviously, but she said the window was wide open and she just 'knew'. i think i'd have felt the same.

and the next one, shock maybe? I don't think its that much of a big deal. get all of her friends to help find madeline and call the police? what good would shouting from the veranda do? surely you would rather go and look + get all of your friends too?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

First question. Any problem with that? No loaded, cant trip self up etc.

Many more like that too..still unanswered for some reason or another
List of the questions for those who dont know

But her lawyer probably told her that questions that rely on the presumption of guilt are not worth her answering, it's clear the intention of a lot of the questions is so that she will implicate herself, I'm not surprised she decided not to cooperate in an interrogation that she thinks should never have happened and is based on completely false premises

[Vicky.]

Of course the interrogation should have happened. In the huge majority of cases with an abduction, it turns out to be someone who knew the child rather than a stranger who took them. They/friends should have been the first suspects IMO. Then work from there :S

Edit. There is a chance I read your post wrong

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Of course the interrogation should have happened. In the huge majority of cases with an abduction, it turns out to be someone who knew the child rather than a stranger who took them. They/friends should have been the first suspects IMO. Then work from there :S

But I think there are better ways of doing that. Clarifying all of the details with them rather than phrasing questions to sound suspicious.

Asking her to go through exactly what happened from the moment she found Maddie missing until the police arrived is one thing, asking questions like "Why did you do this, instead of this?" is insinuating automatically that her actions were wrong and were wrong on purpose rather than due to shock or whatever.

Asking why she ran back to the restaurant is different to asking why not shout from the verandah instead.

It's also really unfair to assume how someone should act when under such pressure, suffering, guilt, and grief. It's impossible to say "well I'd do this", because until anyone walks a mile in those shoes (and I hope no one ever does), you have absolutely no idea where their heads must have been.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Of course the interrogation should have happened. In the huge majority of cases with an abduction, it turns out to be someone who knew the child rather than a stranger who took them. They/friends should have been the first suspects IMO. Then work from there :S

Edit. There is a chance I read your post wrong

To be a formal suspect you need to have some level of evidence or grounds for suspicion surely though? I'm not saying there wasn't cause for questioning her, but like Marsh said, from her point of view being treated as though you're guilty, which a lot of the questions seem to imply, would just be seen as seriously rubbing salt into the wounds

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

But I think there are better ways of doing that. Clarifying all of the details with them rather than phrasing questions to sound suspicious.

Asking her to go through exactly what happened from the moment she found Maddie missing until the police arrived is one thing, asking questions like "Why did you do this, instead of this?" is insinuating automatically that her actions were wrong and were wrong on purpose rather than due to shock or whatever.

The first question WAS that though. And it was still not answered.

I can sort of understand her refusing to answer ones that make her sound guilty.

Incidentally, I don't actually think Kate had anything to do with it. Its quite unfortunate that she acted in such a suspicious way.. :S

[Kizzy]

If a child of yours went missing would you get out and look for them?...

[Marsh.]

It's probably as MTVN said then, the lawyer advised to stay quiet because they were being interviewed as a suspect with no actual evidence to do it. But then, there is no substantial evidence for virtually any scenario.