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Scottish leader says Israel going too far - hardly surprising when his wifes parents are in Gazza at the moment

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Scottish leader says Israel going too far - hardly surprising when his wifes parents are in Gazza at the moment

Hardly surprising when you see Israel using chemical weapons on Palestinian civilians and cutting off all their sources for general survival

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Scottish leader says Israel going too far - hardly surprising when his wifes parents are in Gazza at the moment

[Alf]

I know the majority of this forum isn't in favour of colonisers.

My question is, and I don't know the answer. It's a genuine question. Not a trick one.

Who are the biggest colonisers in the World right now in the year 2023?

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

I know the majority of this forum isn't in favour of colonisers.

My question is, and I don't know the answer. It's a genuine question. Not a trick one.

Who are the biggest colonisers in the World right now in the year 2023?

I think that the nation that's the most likely to insidiously force their culture onto other people is the US.

Look at how many countries they've changed over the years.

[Liam-]

I know us in the west are used to our leaders being thirsty for the blood of Muslims whenever possible, but it doesn’t mean vested interests are the only reason a leader can oppose such brutal actions against innocent people

[arista]

[Livia]

It'd be nice if people actually read the thread. But, no.... Just the same old anti-Israel stuff regurgitated and regurgitated.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

It'd be nice if people actually read the thread. But, no.... Just the same old anti-Israel stuff regurgitated and regurgitated.

Maybe you could spend more time putting your points across? Who knows, maybe even debunk some of the anti-Israel bias you see, rather than, y'know, telling people off.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Corbyn: "My friends Hamas & Hezbollah seek peace & social justice"

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Corbyn: "My friends Hamas & Hezbollah seek peace & social justice"

you have to admire the guy. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics for a pacifist to come to that conclusion after last weekend

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Corbyn: "My friends Hamas & Hezbollah seek peace & social justice"

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you have to admire the guy. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics for a pacifist to come to that conclusion after last weekend

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I completely agree. Let's wait for LT to provide the date, source, and context of that quote, although now it's after 7pm, I think the sauce of that quote is probably a better thing to say.

It was only posted for my benefit, bots.

I googled it and the quote is from 2009...

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I googled it and the quote is from 2009...

Corbyn faced backlash when he was Labour leader after video footage emerged of him having invited Hamas into the Houses of Parliament.

"It will be my pleasure and honour to host an event in parliament where our friends from Hezbollah will be speaking," he said in a video from 2009.
"I’ve also invited our friends from Hamas to come and speak as well."

He later said he regretted his choice of words when he thought it may hinder him becoming PM

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I googled it and the quote is from 2009...

And it was when meetings were organised in parliament to try and reach a way forward.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

And it was when meetings were organised in parliament to try and reach a way forward.

Oh that old excuse. He did the same with his IRA terrorists pals. Funnily enough, there was no sign of any Israelis or Loyalists included in his bogus ‘peace talks’.

Did you miss the bit where he called these terrorists 'friends'.

[arista]

Gaza

[bots]

france has raised it's security alert level to the highest level

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

france has raised it's security alert level to the highest level

yes remember when they did that for fear of Jewish terrorism?

(no)

oh wait...

[Merry Mockmas]

Imo I think that in this particular situation, Hamas committed atrocities (I mean watch some of the videos of what they did to the Israelis) and they didn't care about what the Israeli Government would do to their (Hamas) people in response, they know what the Israeli Government is like at the best of times, yet Hamas still decided to behave like Ramsay Bolton off GOT.

However I do have sympathy for the regular Palestinian civilians, who from reactions like this from Israel, will sadly now be even more indoctrinated into Hamas, thus carrying on this vicious cycle of hatred.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Palestinian civilians, who from reactions like this from Israel, will sadly now be even more indoctrinated into Hamas, thus carrying on this vicious cycle of hatred.

Correct and this is well known and understood from history; the Israeli government knows this... they know that by levelling hospitals and neighbourhoods in response to Hamas, they will only increase their recruiting power, and increase the overall level of risk. So you do have to ask yourself - what is the motivation?

I think the end goal is relatively clear; to completely depopulate and eventually assimilate all current Palestinian territories into Israel.

And I think it'll probably happen, eventually. Eventually that map of Israel/Palestine will simply be Israel, and Palestine will cease to exist.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Correct and this is well known and understood from history; the Israeli government knows this... they know that by levelling hospitals and neighbourhoods in response to Hamas, they will only increase their recruiting power, and increase the overall level of risk. So you do have to ask yourself - what is the motivation?

I think the end goal is relatively clear; to completely depopulate and eventually assimilate all current Palestinian territories into Israel.

And I think it'll probably happen, eventually. Eventually that map of Israel/Palestine will simply be Israel, and Palestine will cease to exist.

On the same level though, all Palestinians know what will happen to them if hamas do what they do...so why do they it?

And especially, why have they done what they have done?

Many neighbours on the Gaza strip share different religious opinions! It's not divided as much as people think.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

On the same level though, all Palestinians know what will happen to them if hamas do what they do...so why do they it?

And especially, why have they done what they have done?

Many neighbours on the Gaza strip share different religious opinions! It's not divided as much as people think.

I was thinking this myself, Parmy.
Surely many ordinary, decent Palestinians will be disgusted and angry at what Hamas has brought down on their heads by their recent actions. The loss of loved ones, their homes. Having brutal terrorists on your side whose only goal is to wipe the enemy from the face of the earth with no intention of compromise is only going to end in tragic devastation.
On a news programme today it was said that in a new poll, less than 40% of Gaza Palestinians would vote Hamas back into power if there was an election.
Of course it is inevitable that they will gain recruits nevertheless.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Correct and this is well known and understood from history; the Israeli government knows this... they know that by levelling hospitals and neighbourhoods in response to Hamas, they will only increase their recruiting power, and increase the overall level of risk. So you do have to ask yourself - what is the motivation?

I think the end goal is relatively clear; to completely depopulate and eventually assimilate all current Palestinian territories into Israel.

And I think it'll probably happen, eventually. Eventually that map of Israel/Palestine will simply be Israel, and Palestine will cease to exist.

Unfortunately it wouldn't surprise me if Palestine ended up ceasing to exist.

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Youtube video

[arista]