[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well apparently the wound on his neck is his own bullet as he tried to kill himself. So he wants to die..how is the death penalty punishment? :S

thats odd, the pain he must have been in would be insane, why did he not finish the job after the first bullet? apparently he had a shoot out with the Police when they found him in the boat, very strange

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well apparently the wound on his neck is his own bullet as he tried to kill himself. So he wants to die..how is the death penalty punishment? :S

I wasn't really thinking about him,but the safety of other people,as long as he is securely locked up let him rot there.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Drew.

thats odd, the pain he must have been in would be insane, why did he not finish the job after the first bullet? apparently he had a shoot out with the Police when they found him in the boat, very strange

a lot of people try to commit suicide by putting the gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger, and it just goes through the back of their throat. It's a common mistake that suicidal people make. It's usually not fatal.

[Nedusa]

Apparently his vocal cords are going to be severely damaged , he may be unable to emit any meaningful sound .

I guess nobody's going to hear him scream now when he his alone in the shower with his big butch prison girlfriends....!!!!

[Nedusa]

With still so many unanswered questions regarding what took place on the ground in Boston after the bombing, it's time to look at an extra, possible Top Ten list of lingering absurdities. And this without sidestepping other unanswered crucial questions, such as why a bomb drill - organized by Craft - was going on during the marathon at which the bombing took place; and why it was vehemently denied that a bomb drill was going on. For this current set of questions, I'm grateful for the help of Asia Times Online's Bostonian readers.

Pick your Mercedes
1. Will the FBI come clean and admit they knew everything there is to know about Tamerlan Tsarnaev - after five years of monitoring/controlling him - and still lied to public opinion by swearing they knew nothing about his and his brother's identity, posting their photos and asking for the public to act ''as eyes and ears'' to identify those ''suspects''?

2. Since 9/11, the preferred FBI modus operandi is to use informants to lure ''potential'' terra-rists to act. See for example the Fast and Furious<-style Iran cum Mexican cartel plot. There's a strong possibility the Tsarnaev brothers were set up. In this case, is there anyone anywhere among the vast US intel apparatus investigating the FBI investigators?

3. Will the FBI explain a tsunami of false reports by the usual, anonymous ''US officials'' of explosions or ''unexploded bombs'' - at two Boston hotels, a court house, and at the JFK library?

4. A Saudi student, injured at the bombing, who was in the US via a legal student visa, is suddenly deported on ''national security grounds'', even as investigators found ''unusual burns'' on his hand inconsistent with the injuries of other victims. He may have been a member of a Saudi clan notorious for its al-Qaeda connections. The FBI ''investigation'' is suddenly dropped shortly after the Saudi ambassador in the US held an unscheduled meeting with President Barack Obama. Add to it that even before the smoke had cleared, the Israel Lobby and the notorious disinformation website DEBKA were pointing their fingers at ''domestic terrorists with Middle East connections''.

5. The description of the car hijacked by the brothers, a Mercedes E350 SUV, matches the description of their car left at a service station in Cambridge for two weeks prior to the bombing. A mechanic in Cambridge said Dzhokhar, Tamerlan's brother, picked up his "black Mercedes SUV" on Tuesday, the day after the marathon. The two cars may be one and the same; that blows up the whole official ''carjacking'' narrative.

6. Additionally, there's a media blackout on the owner of the allegedly hijacked Mercedes, who in theory managed to escape and call the police, who maintains that the brothers went to three ATMs and withdrew US$800 from his account - not before telling him they were the ''marathon bombers and had killed an MIT police''. The driver said he was let off at a gas station on Memorial Drive in Cambridge. But some witnesses saw Dzhokhar at the station's convenience store - without any driver. Then the narrative of the brothers robbing a convenience store was revealed to be false. Police scanners referred to a "black top" person. Still, the official narrative is that the Tsarnaev brothers were at the same place and the same time of the robbery.

7. The slain MIT police. The initial police scanner report mentions the suspect in singular as ''a Hispanic with a hat on''. This happened on the MIT campus, at a side street, after the officer had responded to the report of ''a disturbance''. Now the whole US law enforcement apparatus takes for granted that the MIT cop was killed by the brothers - with no investigation whatsoever.

8. There's a whole murky story about a ''stolen police SUV with long guns and explosive'' - without any details. It is assumed by everyone the brothers stole it, but nobody can tell when, where and how. The official narrative sustains it to justify the guns that the brothers allegedly used in a firefight with the police in Watertown. Moreover, the chief of Watertown police maintains that the brothers drove into town in ''two separate cars''. The FBI and the Boston District Attorney say the brothers were in the hijacked Mercedes.

9. The whole law enforcement apparatus insisted that there was a heavy exchange of gunfire with Dzokhar while he was hiding in a boat, before his arrest. That is false. He was unarmed, barely moving and the hail of bullets towards the boat came from the police.

10. How come legions of police and mega-weaponized SWAT teams searching a ''20 block'' crime scene perimeter in Watertown simply could not locate Dzhokhar hiding in a street less than two blocks from where he had abandoned his car? Even a simple Google Maps search contradicts the claim that police did not find him for a whole day because the street he was hiding - Franklin - ''was slightly beyond the perimeter''. A number of residents in Franklin street even complained that they were not searched until after the lifting of the curfew and the discovery of Dzhokhar by the boat's owner, who is now a national hero.

Do the martial dance
What the day-long delay in Dzhokhar's arrest indeed made possible was to turn Watertown into a monster dry run for urban martial law - euphemized as ''lockdown'' - in a very near future.

As total militarization of civilian life goes - featuring, for instance, Homeland Security running amok with hundreds of armored vehicles - this was a major success. Meanwhile, on the ''legal'' front, the White House and the Justice Department are firmly on track to finally suppress the Miranda warning; that went into effect already two years ago, when an Obama secret executive order ruled the Miranda warning would not apply to suspected terrorists.

Dzhokhar is a ''suspected'' terrorist - now charged with using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction, yet already convicted by corporate media. Welcome to Police State USA - where at least everyone still has the right to go out shopping. For now....!!!!

[BBfanUSA]

I have a question, if all of this conspiracy stuff has pissed truthers off. Why in the hell have they not enforced their second amendment by trying to overthrow the US government? If this is stuff is true, they only have a moment of time before it's too late for them to do so.

While on another front, I have another question. Why did they run and not turn themselves in in the first place? Stuff would've hit the fan if they just turned themselves in but also insisted on claiming they didn't do it and they were framed. A Bunch of people would've believed that given how 4chan claimed it was another guy that did the blast (Infowars/Alex Jones claiming the US gov't was wrong and trying to warn people watching the press conference that they have the "Truth".) If they just turned themselves in, there would be no doubt in my mind that they weren't guilty. Instead they ran.

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I have a question, if all of this conspiracy stuff has pissed truthers off. Why in the hell have they not enforced their second amendment by trying to overthrow the US government? If this is stuff is true, they only have a moment of time before it's too late for them to do so.

While on another front, I have another question. Why did they run and not turn themselves in in the first place? Stuff would've hit the fan if they just turned themselves in but also insisted on claiming they didn't do it and they were framed. A Bunch of people would've believed that given how 4chan claimed it was another guy that did the blast (Infowars/Alex Jones claiming the US gov't was wrong and trying to warn people watching the press conference that they have the "Truth".) If they just turned themselves in, there would be no doubt in my mind that they weren't guilty. Instead they ran.

I think they're waiting for Glenn Beck to give them the signal.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I have a question, if all of this conspiracy stuff has pissed truthers off. Why in the hell have they not enforced their second amendment by trying to overthrow the US government? If this is stuff is true, they only have a moment of time before it's too late for them to do so.

While on another front, I have another question. Why did they run and not turn themselves in in the first place? Stuff would've hit the fan if they just turned themselves in but also insisted on claiming they didn't do it and they were framed. A Bunch of people would've believed that given how 4chan claimed it was another guy that did the blast (Infowars/Alex Jones claiming the US gov't was wrong and trying to warn people watching the press conference that they have the "Truth".) If they just turned themselves in, there would be no doubt in my mind that they weren't guilty. Instead they ran.

This is not conspiracy "stuff" this is people merely asking for the inconsistancies listed in the previous post to be addressed. There is no conspiracy mentioned but if events happened the way the media have reported them then the media's story should be watertight.

But it isn't, as you have read there are questions/inconsistancies that need to be addressed without everyone immediately screaming "Conspiracy"...!!!!

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I have a question, if all of this conspiracy stuff has pissed truthers off. Why in the hell have they not enforced their second amendment by trying to overthrow the US government? If this is stuff is true, they only have a moment of time before it's too late for them to do so.

While on another front, I have another question. Why did they run and not turn themselves in in the first place? Stuff would've hit the fan if they just turned themselves in but also insisted on claiming they didn't do it and they were framed. A Bunch of people would've believed that given how 4chan claimed it was another guy that did the blast (Infowars/Alex Jones claiming the US gov't was wrong and trying to warn people watching the press conference that they have the "Truth".) If they just turned themselves in, there would be no doubt in my mind that they weren't guilty. Instead they ran.

Yes Evil Terror Brothers

His mother has no idea of the Truth
so I would not let her see him,

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This is not conspiracy "stuff" this is people merely asking for the inconsistancies listed in the previous post to be addressed. There is no conspiracy mentioned but if events happened the way the media have reported them then the media's story should be watertight.

But it isn't, as you have read there are questions/inconsistancies that need to be addressed without everyone immediately screaming "Conspiracy"...!!!!

You have a point. I was fearing this was going to derail into something else the minute I saw Martial Law.

[arista]

[Boston Bomb Suspects 'Had Religious Motive'
US officials say the two brothers suspected of
carrying out the Boston bombings were
motivated by a radical brand of Islam.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1081664/bo...ligious-motive

[Vicky.]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...2#.UXaalUot4dU

Investigators in the Boston suburbs told ABC News that Tamerlan Tsarnaev – the elder Boston Marathon bomber, who was killed in a firefight with police – may have been involved in an unsolved grisly triple homicide of a former roommate and two others.

The murders took place around September 11, 2011, the tenth anniversary of the September 11 combined strategic terror attack on the United States.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

With still so many unanswered questions regarding what took place on the ground in Boston after the bombing, it's time to look at an extra, possible Top Ten list of lingering absurdities. And this without sidestepping other unanswered crucial questions, such as why a bomb drill - organized by Craft - was going on during the marathon at which the bombing took place; and why it was vehemently denied that a bomb drill was going on. For this current set of questions, I'm grateful for the help of Asia Times Online's Bostonian readers.

Pick your Mercedes
1. Will the FBI come clean and admit they knew everything there is to know about Tamerlan Tsarnaev - after five years of monitoring/controlling him - and still lied to public opinion by swearing they knew nothing about his and his brother's identity, posting their photos and asking for the public to act ''as eyes and ears'' to identify those ''suspects''?

2. Since 9/11, the preferred FBI modus operandi is to use informants to lure ''potential'' terra-rists to act. See for example the Fast and Furious<-style Iran cum Mexican cartel plot. There's a strong possibility the Tsarnaev brothers were set up. In this case, is there anyone anywhere among the vast US intel apparatus investigating the FBI investigators?

3. Will the FBI explain a tsunami of false reports by the usual, anonymous ''US officials'' of explosions or ''unexploded bombs'' - at two Boston hotels, a court house, and at the JFK library?

4. A Saudi student, injured at the bombing, who was in the US via a legal student visa, is suddenly deported on ''national security grounds'', even as investigators found ''unusual burns'' on his hand inconsistent with the injuries of other victims. He may have been a member of a Saudi clan notorious for its al-Qaeda connections. The FBI ''investigation'' is suddenly dropped shortly after the Saudi ambassador in the US held an unscheduled meeting with President Barack Obama. Add to it that even before the smoke had cleared, the Israel Lobby and the notorious disinformation website DEBKA were pointing their fingers at ''domestic terrorists with Middle East connections''.

5. The description of the car hijacked by the brothers, a Mercedes E350 SUV, matches the description of their car left at a service station in Cambridge for two weeks prior to the bombing. A mechanic in Cambridge said Dzhokhar, Tamerlan's brother, picked up his "black Mercedes SUV" on Tuesday, the day after the marathon. The two cars may be one and the same; that blows up the whole official ''carjacking'' narrative.

6. Additionally, there's a media blackout on the owner of the allegedly hijacked Mercedes, who in theory managed to escape and call the police, who maintains that the brothers went to three ATMs and withdrew US$800 from his account - not before telling him they were the ''marathon bombers and had killed an MIT police''. The driver said he was let off at a gas station on Memorial Drive in Cambridge. But some witnesses saw Dzhokhar at the station's convenience store - without any driver. Then the narrative of the brothers robbing a convenience store was revealed to be false. Police scanners referred to a "black top" person. Still, the official narrative is that the Tsarnaev brothers were at the same place and the same time of the robbery.

7. The slain MIT police. The initial police scanner report mentions the suspect in singular as ''a Hispanic with a hat on''. This happened on the MIT campus, at a side street, after the officer had responded to the report of ''a disturbance''. Now the whole US law enforcement apparatus takes for granted that the MIT cop was killed by the brothers - with no investigation whatsoever.

8. There's a whole murky story about a ''stolen police SUV with long guns and explosive'' - without any details. It is assumed by everyone the brothers stole it, but nobody can tell when, where and how. The official narrative sustains it to justify the guns that the brothers allegedly used in a firefight with the police in Watertown. Moreover, the chief of Watertown police maintains that the brothers drove into town in ''two separate cars''. The FBI and the Boston District Attorney say the brothers were in the hijacked Mercedes.

9. The whole law enforcement apparatus insisted that there was a heavy exchange of gunfire with Dzokhar while he was hiding in a boat, before his arrest. That is false. He was unarmed, barely moving and the hail of bullets towards the boat came from the police.

10. How come legions of police and mega-weaponized SWAT teams searching a ''20 block'' crime scene perimeter in Watertown simply could not locate Dzhokhar hiding in a street less than two blocks from where he had abandoned his car? Even a simple Google Maps search contradicts the claim that police did not find him for a whole day because the street he was hiding - Franklin - ''was slightly beyond the perimeter''. A number of residents in Franklin street even complained that they were not searched until after the lifting of the curfew and the discovery of Dzhokhar by the boat's owner, who is now a national hero.

Do the martial dance
What the day-long delay in Dzhokhar's arrest indeed made possible was to turn Watertown into a monster dry run for urban martial law - euphemized as ''lockdown'' - in a very near future.

As total militarization of civilian life goes - featuring, for instance, Homeland Security running amok with hundreds of armored vehicles - this was a major success. Meanwhile, on the ''legal'' front, the White House and the Justice Department are firmly on track to finally suppress the Miranda warning; that went into effect already two years ago, when an Obama secret executive order ruled the Miranda warning would not apply to suspected terrorists.

Dzhokhar is a ''suspected'' terrorist - now charged with using and conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction, yet already convicted by corporate media. Welcome to Police State USA - where at least everyone still has the right to go out shopping. For now....!!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ut-police.html

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

If this is another bomb as claimed, does no one else find it extremely strange that the brothers would detonate it right next to themselves?

-

Fox news now reporting that they couldnt have learnt how to make the bombs on the internet as one of the bombs was far too sophisticated (apparently contained a part from a toy car or something )

Also.. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...ed_at_hospital Docs reckon older brother was not ran over by a vehicle. Where did the report that said that come from?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If this is another bomb as claimed, does no one else find it extremely strange that the brothers would detonate it right next to themselves?

-

Fox news now reporting that they couldnt have learnt how to make the bombs on the internet as one of the bombs was far too sophisticated (apparently contained a part from a toy car or something )

Also.. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...ed_at_hospital Docs reckon older brother was not ran over by a vehicle. Where did the report that said that come from?

I don't find it any stranger than him shooting himself in the face. Clearly he was suicidal at that point once he knew he was found out.

[Jordan.]

Youtube video

I feel bad for the mother here. She didn't believe her son was dead until she saw that photo of his dead body on the internet :-/

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I don't find it any stranger than him shooting himself in the face. Clearly he was suicidal at that point once he knew he was found out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...459_story.html

A bit hard when he was unarmed, dont you think? :S

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...459_story.html

A bit hard when he was unarmed, dont you think? :S

ohh, I thought they reported that he shot himself. I stand corrected.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

ohh, I thought they reported that he shot himself. I stand corrected.

They did. Same as it was reported that the younger brother ran over the older brother during the first shootout.

I dont know if it has been police/witnesses getting the story wrong, or media speculation though.

[Brother Leon]

Above pic is Probably a suicide bomb attempt. All these guys Claim to be fighting for Islam while doing two Major Islamic sins in killing someone and killing yourself. Make real sense these ****ing "radicals". Infuriating, it really is. I hope the brother is enjoying rotting in hell(Inb4ThereIsNoHell).

[arista]

Live on SkyNewsHD and CNN
the mayor of New York City
telling the World how those 2 were going on to attack Times Sq.

But because they killed that Cop in Boston,
it all went wrong


Info from FBI Boston
Mayor Bloomberg said

The New Bombs were already made

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Youtube video

I feel bad for the mother here. She didn't believe her son was dead until she saw that photo of his dead body on the internet :-/

I am Angry with her
that she will not look at 100% Photo Proof
of the younger brother leaving his bomb
that killed that young boy - who wanted peace in our world.


Her kids Crossed the Fecking Line
Fact

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

I am Angry with her
that she will not look at 100% Photo Proof
of the younger brother leaving his bomb
that killed that young boy - who wanted peace in our world.


Her kids Crossed the Fecking Line
Fact

100% photo proof? Where?

The only proof there is is a video that will be shown in the court case. There is no 100% proof that the public has right now for her to look at.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

100% photo proof? Where?

The only proof there is is a video that will be shown in the court case. There is no 100% proof that the public has right now for her to look at.

No Vicky
a Photograper got that 19 year year old leaving his big back pack
on the floor and Walking away
Fact

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

No Vicky
a Photograper got that 19 year year old leaving his big back pack
on the floor and Walking away
Fact

You take that photo as 100% proof? Really?

Looks to me like he still has hold of it and is just swinging it

Really want to see this video that the feds have that shows him actually placing the bomb. But that wont be available until after the case.

Edit. Actually that cant even be him leaving it. The affadavit says he stood around for a while after placing it..talked on his phone, and only actually left the bag AFTER the first explosion had gone off.