[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

IMO (And Im expecting to get shot down for it as per usual,but past caring to be honest) I dont think they were left as often as they say ,IMO they left them that night and made sure lots of witnesses that they had, because without admitting neglect they could not claim abduction

I'm not looking to shoot you down Chuff, I'm genuinely curious about the case and about what might have happened

But why do you think they wanted to claim abduction if she died accidentally? I don't get the reasoning

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not looking to shoot you down Chuff, I'm genuinely curious about the case and about what might have happened

But why do you think they wanted to claim abduction if she died accidentally? I don't get the reasoning

Ive puzzled about that too, but I think a lot of it is because they were Drs and they had a lot to lose if Maddie had died due to their neglect and with being given something to make her sleep they would both be struck off

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Ive puzzled about that too, but I think a lot of it is because they were Drs and they had a lot to lose if Maddie had died due to their neglect and with being given something to make her sleep they would both be struck off

ah right ok, that makes a bit more sense actually. God though you'd want to be pretty cold to think that way after your child died, wouldn't you?

[Lee.]

Madeleine was seen at the hotel pool on the 3rd may?

[AnnieK]

Yeah I thought she been seen on the day?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Yeah I thought she been seen on the day?

So did I.. Although I think there were claims that the photos that had been taken on the day had been photoshopped to make it look like Madeleine was there..

But that aside, I think witnesses claimed to have seen her on the day.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

So did I.. Although I think there were claims that the photos that had been taken on the day had been photoshopped to make it look like Madeleine was there..

But that aside, I think witnesses claimed to have seen her on the day.

Jane Tanner little girl and Maddie were very similar in looks and same age ...the creche records are all wrong too

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Jane Tanner little girl and Maddie were very similar in looks and same age ...the creche records are all wrong too

So the crčche staff were in on it too?? What about the photos that were taken of Madeleine on that day?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

So the crčche staff were in on it too?? What about the photos that were taken of Madeleine on that day?

No of course not ,Im not saying that ,the photos as you say were not genuine

[Niamh.]

For the record I do think there's something dodgy about the McCanns story but that accidental death doesn't make alot of sense to me

[Lee.]

That blog doesn't start until 23rd of May.. Where's the days before that?

[MTVN]

Fridge stuff sounds like rubbish to me, googling about it only finds that claim that's been posted on anti-McCann sites but no reliable source and no link to Gerry saying anything like that on his blog

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Fridge stuff sounds like rubbish to me, googling about it only finds that claim that's been posted on anti-McCann sites but no reliable source and no link to Gerry saying anything like that on his blog

All in the screenshots Ive have posted

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

That blog doesn't start until 23rd of May.. Where's the days before that?

It starts days 1-50 and so on ,I will see if I can find out what day he wrote about taking fridge to tip

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It starts days 1-50 and so on ,I will see if I can find out what day he wrote about taking fridge to tip

So if he took her out the fridge on the 3rd of May and carried her down the road to somewhere "safe", where could he possibly hide her? I'm imagining Portugal would be hot at that time of year, so where could a man, in strange surroundings conceal a dead body so well that it wouldn't be found during an extensive search of the area? And why wouldn't somebody have smelt a decomposing body within the next 26 days?

I'm not trying to argue with you chuff.. I'm interested.

[Niamh.]

That would be a really bizarre thing to do in a rented apartment, if it's true

[Kizzy]

Whether you think others research or interest is logical or not is irrelevant though.
We are entitled to our own interpretations based on what we personally consider to be logical only.
I was convinced that they were innocent and yet the more I read the less convinced of that I become.
I don't suggest anyone else draws this conclusion however.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Whether you think others research or interest is logical or not is irrelevant though.

That's not what I said, and when someone asks you a direct question about your opinion, then your opinion, for no other reason than to answer the question, sort of becomes relevant.

[Lee.]

But the suggested series of events aren't logical kizzy. Surely you don't agree with the theory that PC whateverhisnameis came up with? It doesn't make sense?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

But the suggested series of events aren't logical kizzy. Surely you don't agree with the theory that PC whateverhisnameis came up with? It doesn't make sense?

I don't know who PC whateverhisnameis is lee, so it's hard to say.
In many cases those related to or closely associated with missing children are implicated, so the feeling that this may be the case here is not altogether illogical is it in fairness?

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't know who PC whateverhisnameis is lee, so it's hard to say.
In many cases those related to or closely associated with missing children are implicated, so the feeling that this may be the case here is not altogether illogical is it in fairness?

To me it is.. None of it makes sense. I think the McCanns are right in suing PC whateverhisnameis for defamation (sorry I cba looking up his name) and I really hope they win their case against him next month .

I also hope that if they do, something is also done about these dreadful websites where people are allowed to make completely unfounded allegations. I find them very distasteful and it must be very upsetting for the McCanns and their families.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Lee.

To me it is.. None of it makes sense. I think the McCanns are right in suing PC whateverhisnameis for defamation (sorry I cba looking up his name) and I really hope they win their case against him next month .

I also hope that if they do, something is also done about these dreadful websites where people are allowed to make completely unfounded allegations. I find them very distasteful and it must be very upsetting for the McCanns and their families.

I doubt very much they will lose the case, this is the 4th case they have spent the search fund money on and to date 3 fails and this will be the 4th ,truth will out

[Kizzy]

Yes well we're going round in circles now that's all been said before in about 6 different ways hasn't it?
It's screamingly obvious that your view and mine don't tally so there's not much else to say is there?
I respect your right to think how you wish.

[Vicky.]

Portuguese are reopening case. They said they wouldn't unless there was new evidence, wonder whats happened in the past few weeks.

Does this mean Kate, Gerry and Murat are all arguidos again? IIRC they weren't actually 'cleared', the case was just shelved.

Also, I wonder if the Tapas 9 will go back to Portugal for the reconstruction now, after declining last time. PJ wanted that but T9 said it was pointless.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Portuguese are reopening case. They said they wouldn't unless there was new evidence, wonder whats happened in the past few weeks.

Does this mean Kate, Gerry and Murat are all arguidos again? IIRC they weren't actually 'cleared', the case was just shelved.

Also, I wonder if the Tapas 9 will go back to Portugal for the reconstruction now, after declining last time. PJ wanted that but T9 said it was pointless.

Oh that is an interesting development. Bit weird that they wouldn't cooperate with the police as well for a reconstruction, although tbh I do find it hard to believe that they were all somehow in on it (whatever it may be)