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Burnham will be told to do it soon whether he likes it or not
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I think he's right. Any area forced to close needs to have financial support.
Otherwise the pubs/restaurants will not survive.
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I really hope they find that vaccine next year.
We really need it.
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I think he's right. Any area forced to close needs to have financial support.
Otherwise the pubs/restaurants will not survive.


He is right.
I completely agree with his stance.
I wouldn't write him off as to getting something here either.

The other Con MPs of the area largely agree with his position too.
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and yet not one person here is saying ... this isn't the governments fault, Burnham let people break restrictions and put peoples llves at risk.

Also, the amount the government are providing is very much the same as every other country across europe are offering similarly affected people.

But, lets not allow facts to get in the way when there is a good political point to score
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and yet not one person here is saying ... this isn't the governments fault, Burnham let people break restrictions and put peoples llves at risk.

Also, the amount the government are providing is very much the same as every other country across europe are offering similarly affected people.

But, lets not allow facts to get in the way when there is a good political point to score
Unfortunately bots, the refusal of the public to comply that be traced back to Dominic cummings and the excuses the government made for him by not holding him to account. The government haven't provided what's been most needed - consistency.

I'd also wager that for a lot of other countries, their governments haven't spent the previous decade trying to destroy any service that helps vulnerable people in the same way ours has.
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Just watched on the news Prit useless and two policemen strolling along a street banging on about enforcing mask wearing, none of them were wearing masks or distancing themselves from each other, the arrogance is unreal, no wonder people are done
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it's all going to rat****, and it will be ordinary people that suffer and die, with everyone blaming everyone else
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...the Daily Star front page is awful, it almost feels making light of it all...
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I'm not a fan of Andy Burnham, he likes the sound if his own voice far too much but I do agree with him that shutting pubs doesn't go far enough. Our rates of infection are ridiculous and stopping people going for a drink but allowing them to do everything else is not going to drive rates down. The support package doesn't go far enough either. Many of the people working in hospitality up here do so for minimum wage....its called minimum wage for a reason....its the least amount of money anyone can be expected to live on and offering two thirds of minimum wage is not enough. Landlords won't accept two thirds of your rent, the council won't accept two thirds of your council tax etc etc. This virus is not going anywhere
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No Talks planned with Andy Burnham today?
Is being reported.


If The Government increased the money benefit
Manchester's poor workers
the rest of the Country would want the same.

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If The Government increased the money benefit
Manchester's poor workers
the rest of the Country would want the same.
And so they should.....lower paid workers should not suffer more at the hands of this virus (and government). Most people live to their means and for the majority of people losing a third of your income is going to cause some problems. For the lower paid workers those problems will translate into hardships - wherever they live in the country.
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...exactly what Annie is saying ...minimum wage is already poverty...and it’s also a time of thinking about Christmas and these families in poverty also need and deserve for their children to have a Christmas as well...
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We don't know how bad the economy is, the government may simply not have the money to bail out companies, no matter how unfair it may seem


Honestly, i think there is a lot of burying heads in the sand. If we are always locked down, the economy will suffer. We took an enormous hit locking down in March.

I wish people would set aside politics from all sides, and just take the best decisions for the country and accept them without scoring political points

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We don't know how bad the economy is, the government may simply not have the money to bail out companies, no matter how unfair it may seem


Honestly, i think there is a lot of burying heads in the sand. If we are always locked down, the economy will suffer. We took an enormous hit locking down in March.

I wish people would set aside politics from all sides, and just take the best decisions for the country and accept them without scoring political points
you would've had the money to bail out companies, if you guys didn't vote for brexit
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