[Denver]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Haven't been for about 10 years

Well at least third is secured after today.

Are you sure?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

can Pep keep them up next season?

It will be so exiting to see if he can

[Denver]

If it says the way it is Leicester can win the title next week if they better Tottenham score

[Denver]

Never mind I've just saw Tottenham has scored

[Merry Mockmas]

Aston Villa will be joining us in the Championship to be slaughtered against us after today.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Aston Villa will be joining us in the Championship to be slaughtered against us after today.

respect for you Mock

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

respect for you Mock

Thank you Nicky.

Good luck if PSV get them in the friendlies for next season, you'll be scoring double digits.

[BBfanUSA]

LOL at Sunderland possibly avoiding relegation at the brink of death again

[Merry Mockmas]

Tbf Sunderland have been playing great lately, they've just been having some bad luck go their way.

And in all seriousness it's a shame that so many people will be losing their jobs at Villa just because their players are lazy ****s.

[BBfanUSA]

Can anyone get Everton vs Southhampton over there,

It sounds so quiet today.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

Can anyone get Everton vs Southhampton over there,

It sounds so quiet today.

Not as quiet as West Brom vs Watford apparently.

[Alf]

You've gotta hand it to Spurs, they've handled the pressure for the past two weeks and quite comfortably.

They're not going down without a fight, and in-fact are looking the team that's finishing the race the strongest.

Squeeky bum time now for Leicester, they may need to win 3 of their last 4 the way Spurs are playing.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Alf

You've gotta hand it to Spurs, they've handled the pressure for the past two weeks and quite comfortably.

They're not going down without a fight, and in-fact are looking the team that's finishing the race the strongest.

Squeeky bum time now for Leicester, they may need to win 3 of their last 4 the way Spurs are playing.

Oh just saw this I can spell squeaky though

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh just saw this I can spell squeaky though

That's because when I was at School, I was a rebel, you where the teachers pet.

[alex_front2]

Look away Gooners:



Spurs are a better team than Leicester no doubt about it. Most goals scored fewest conceded. Play great football. There is a new order in North London and Gooners won't like it. Sorry Arsenal fans but Poch has done what Wenger dreamt of :

• built a young squad, the only real oldie is Lloris
• built a great English core (Kane,Dier, Rose, Walker, Allie, Trippier)
• spent shrewdly but frugily in transfer market, no big splashy names
• got rid of Adebayor in a clever manner

The end of St Totteridge day has arrived.

Poch is great at nurturing young (English) talent at Soton and now Spurs. Harry Kane still under Tim Sherwood could easily have ended up a Cameron Jerome.

Leicester can still win title, but I can't see Spurs dropping any points. Next up for Spurs, West Bromwich, who are on the beach and will be an easy 3 points for Spurs. Pulis sides usually fight tooth and nail to defend and stop opoosition but there is nothing for WBA to defend, mid table is assured again. Beharino probably won't score as he wants to join Spurs. Rondon has disappointed.

However if anything the loss of red card Vardy for 2 remaining 4 games will kill Leicester's title bid, rather than lacking bottle. As much as I like him, I do think Ranieri is too soft. Probably why he's the nearly man of titles. He's let them have days off. Poch has made his players come in on days off.

Leicester City simply have no consistent reliable goalscorer past Vardy. Ulloa is a championship player* and Okazaki is great opening up space and creating chances but not a finisher you need when you are on title hunt. The amount of times he can't stretch his legs for ball is weird as short cakes Messi and Aguero can. Mahrez does score and assist, can be a genius but is also extremely lazy (one of laziest in PL) and lacks urgency. He can easily never score again this season. Albrighton is a Villa reject. Mahrez crap penalty miss in 0-0 v Villa will come back to haunt Leicester as will his other miss Bournemouth. Kante is great as a box to box/ holding midfielder but he won't score goals. Gray is too young and is no Dele Alli/ Rashford. Then you look at the likes of the 2nd string and fringe players like Andy King, Sclupp, Amatey who are unlikely to do anything.

Leicester sqaud is thinnest and has least depth in EPL which is remarkable when you factor in Aston Villa (who had great youths but didn't play them). Spurs could cope without Kane, LCFC are screwed without Vardy. Ironically I don't think Ranieri has tinkered enough. Relying on a few star players is not best practice for all sorts of reasons, it's screwed Barcelona this season, always playing Messi, Neymar and Suarez and yet their bench is far better than most PL starting XI.

Bizarrely enough this is where. LCFC transfer flop Inler could step up to the mark and be a wild card hero.

* Can't bare mediocre foreign players like Ulloa who are no better than British players. If a foreign player has no chance of being in International squad, I question their presence in EPL. OK, so Ulloa is never going to just Argentineans Aguero and of course Messi but no one in Argentine had even headed of him when he scored all those goals against Man U last season.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Look away Gooners:



Spurs are a better team than Leicester no doubt about it. Most goals scored fewest conceded. Play great football. There is a new order in North London and Gooners won't like it. Sorry Arsenal fans but Poch has done what Wenger dreamt of :

• built a young squad, the only real oldie is Lloris
• built a great English core (Kane,Dier, Rose, Walker, Allie, Trippier)
• spent shrewdly but frugily in transfer market, no big splashy names
• got rid of Adebayor in a clever manner

The end of St Totteridge day has arrived.

Poch is great at nurturing young (English) talent at Soton and now Spurs. Harry Kane still under Tim Sherwood could easily have ended up a Cameron Jerome.

Leicester can still win title, but I can't see Spurs dropping any points. Next up for Spurs, West Bromwich, who are on the beach and will be an easy 3 points for Spurs. Pulis sides usually fight tooth and nail to defend and stop opoosition but there is nothing for WBA to defend, mid table is assured again. Beharino probably won't score as he wants to join Spurs. Rondon has disappointed.

However if anything the loss of red card Vardy for 2 remaining 4 games will kill Leicester's title bid, rather than lacking bottle. As much as I like him, I do think Ranieri is too soft. Probably why he's the nearly man of titles. He's let them have days off. Poch has made his players come in on days off.

Leicester City simply have no consistent reliable goalscorer past Vardy. Ulloa is a championship player* and Okazaki is great opening up space and creating chances but not a finisher you need when you are on title hunt. The amount of times he can't stretch his legs for ball is weird as short cakes Messi and Aguero can. Mahrez does score and assist, can be a genius but is also extremely lazy (one of laziest in PL) and lacks urgency. He can easily never score again this season. Albrighton is a Villa reject. Mahrez crap penalty miss in 0-0 v Villa will come back to haunt Leicester as will his other miss Bournemouth. Kante is great as a box to box/ holding midfielder but he won't score goals. Gray is too young and is no Dele Alli/ Rashford. Then you look at the likes of the 2nd string and fringe players like Andy King, Sclupp, Amatey who are unlikely to do anything.

Leicester sqaud is thinnest and has least depth in EPL which is remarkable when you factor in Aston Villa (who had great youths but didn't play them). Spurs could cope without Kane, LCFC are screwed without Vardy. Ironically I don't think Ranieri has tinkered enough. Relying on a few star players is not best practice for all sorts of reasons, it's screwed Barcelona this season, always playing Messi, Neymar and Suarez and yet their bench is far better than most PL starting XI.

Bizarrely enough this is where. LCFC transfer flop Inler could step up to the mark and be a wild card hero.

* Can't bare mediocre foreign players like Ulloa who are no better than British players. If a foreign player has no chance of being in International squad, I question their presence in EPL. OK, so Ulloa is never going to just Argentineans Aguero and of course Messi but no one in Argentine had even headed of him when he scored all those goals against Man U last season.

Don't underestimate Ulloa, he played quite well when he came on against West Ham imo, I think his ready for this challenge moreso than the other Leicester players as he has a point to prove, and I also think that him and Okazaki will cover up each others weaknesses in a similar vain to the Vardy and Okazaki partnership.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Look away Gooners:



Spurs are a better team than Leicester no doubt about it. Most goals scored fewest conceded. Play great football. There is a new order in North London and Gooners won't like it. Sorry Arsenal fans but Poch has done what Wenger dreamt of :

• built a young squad, the only real oldie is Lloris
• built a great English core (Kane,Dier, Rose, Walker, Allie, Trippier)
• spent shrewdly but frugily in transfer market, no big splashy names
• got rid of Adebayor in a clever manner

The end of St Totteridge day has arrived.

Poch is great at nurturing young (English) talent at Soton and now Spurs. Harry Kane still under Tim Sherwood could easily have ended up a Cameron Jerome.

Lets not act like Poch is the first manager to do all of this. Arsene has managed all of those objectives in the past, it's not something he dreams about doing now, it's just something hes failing at doing. You like thousands of others are getting ahead of yourself, this is probably the best squad Spurs have had and theres still a chance they'll be beaten to it by Leicester lol, that speaks volumes in itself. Most of us Arsenal fans aren't bitter. We respect what Poch is doing and appreciate how good Spurs are now.. they can have this season finishing above us which is what, the first time in 20/21 years? They are still a club that will lose their best players once the $$$ comes along. We still **** all over them in every way possible. Always have, always will.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Lets not act like Poch is the first manager to do all of this. Arsene has managed all of those objectives in the past, it's not something he dreams about doing now, it's just something hes failing at doing. You like thousands of others are getting ahead of yourself, this is probably the best squad Spurs have had and theres still a chance they'll be beaten to it by Leicester lol, that speaks volumes in itself. Most of us Arsenal fans aren't bitter. We respect what Poch is doing and appreciate how good Spurs are now.. they can have this season finishing above us which is what, the first time in 20/21 years? They are still a club that will lose their best players once the $$$ comes along. We still **** all over them in every way possible. Always have, always will.

Arsenal fans not bitter? If you liked up bitter in the dictionary you'd see a pack of whiney angry embittered Gooners whining about why they no longer players like Bergkamp, Seaman, Henry et al.

The Poch is the first manager in about 12 years to do all the things i listed well and win [they will] the EPL. Mourinho, Manchini and Pelligrini relied on older foreign players. Fergie used to have Brits when he joined Man U in 1986, but increasingly used foreign and older players after Class of 92 dispersed.

Don't get me wrong, I am no Spurs fan (I support an English lower league side and a non league side plus St Pauli in Germany, Atletico Bilbao and Rayo Vallecano in Spain) but Arsenal fans have been excruciatingly smug about Spurs for years, even I am enjoying Arsenals downfall/ continued decline. Spurs will dominate North London for years to come (providing Poch and Kane remain). Levy finally has a manager he won't sack and a manager who doesn't spend loads of money but develops kids so Levy can get on with the new White Hart Lane stadium. Poch has a vision, energy, ideas. Wenger has none of these now. His new tactic is just to steal whatever Leicester has. Lazy git. Arsenal don't seem to be planning for the post Wenger era. Who will be managing Arsenal 2017/18?

As for your reasoning that Spurs title win will be devalued as they beat Leicester is moot. The title winners (if not LCFC) would have to beat Leicester like Chelsea did last year...and everyone else Spurs EPL title won't be any less because their main challengers are Leicester. The table doesn't lie. Leicester have been better than everyone else - except Spurs in the end. People can't get their heads around this as Leicester's team is made up for non leaguers (Vardy), lower level French football rejects (Mahrez, Kante), Man U youth cast offs (Drinkwater, Simpson) and damningly a player deemed not good enough for Villa (Albrighton). Arsenal will finish below this. Spurs probably won't. Ozil , Mertsacker, and Sanchez officially worse than Marc Albrighton, Schlupp and Wes Morgan And I wouldn't laugh too hard as a Gooners if Leicester win the title, be depressed that Marc Albrighton and Simpson will have a winners medal , not the likes of Bellerin

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Arsenal fans not bitter? If you liked up bitter in the dictionary you'd see a pack of whiney angry embittered Gooners whining about why they no longer players like Bergkamp, Seaman, Henry et al.

The Poch is the first manager in about 12 years to do all the things i listed well and win [they will] the EPL. Mourinho, Manchini and Pelligrini relied on older foreign players. Fergie used to have Brits when he joined Man U in 1986, but increasingly used foreign and older players after Class of 92 dispersed.

Don't get me wrong, I am no Spurs fan (I support an English lower league side and a non league side plus St Pauli in Germany, Atletico Bilbao and Rayo Vallecano in Spain) but Arsenal fans have been excruciatingly smug about Spurs for years, even I am enjoying Arsenals downfall/ continued decline. Spurs will dominate North London for years to come (providing Poch and Kane remain). Levy finally has a manager he won't sack and a manager who doesn't spend loads of money but develops kids so Levy can get on with the new White Hart Lane stadium. Poch has a vision, energy, ideas. Wenger has none of these now. His new tactic is just to steal whatever Leicester has. Lazy git. Arsenal don't seem to be planning for the post Wenger era. Who will be managing Arsenal 2017/18?

As for your reasoning that Spurs title win will be devalued as they beat Leicester is moot. The title winners (if not LCFC) would have to beat Leicester like Chelsea did last year...and everyone else Spurs EPL title won't be any less that their main challengers are Leicester. The table doesn't lie. Leicester have been better than everyone else -except Spurs. People can't get their heads around this as Leicester's team is made up for non leaguers (Vardy), lower level French football rejects (Mahrez, Kante), Man U rejects (Drinkwater, Simpson) and damningly a player deemed not good enough for Villa (Albrighton). Arsenal will finish below this. Spurs probably won't. Ozil , Mertsacker, and Sanchez officially worse than Marc Albrighton, Schlupp and Wes Morgan

**** me, i'm ending this short discussion before it even begins, you are unbearable. Credit for the trolling effort though, it worked to an extent

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Drew.

**** me, i'm ending this short discussion before it even begins, you are unbearable. Credit for the trolling effort though, it worked to an extent

I'm not a Spurs fans and what I wrote (albeit with obvious tongue in cheek bits) was otherwise earnest.

Arsenal are in decline and will continue to do so under Arsene.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Arsenal fans not bitter? If you liked up bitter in the dictionary you'd see a pack of whiney angry embittered Gooners whining about why they no longer players like Bergkamp, Seaman, Henry et al.

The Poch is the first manager in about 12 years to do all the things i listed well and win [they will] the EPL. Mourinho, Manchini and Pelligrini relied on older foreign players. Fergie used to have Brits when he joined Man U in 1986, but increasingly used foreign and older players after Class of 92 dispersed.

Don't get me wrong, I am no Spurs fan (I support an English lower league side and a non league side plus St Pauli in Germany, Atletico Bilbao and Rayo Vallecano in Spain) but Arsenal fans have been excruciatingly smug about Spurs for years, even I am enjoying Arsenals downfall/ continued decline. Spurs will dominate North London for years to come (providing Poch and Kane remain). Levy finally has a manager he won't sack and a manager who doesn't spend loads of money but develops kids so Levy can get on with the new White Hart Lane stadium. Poch has a vision, energy, ideas. Wenger has none of these now. His new tactic is just to steal whatever Leicester has. Lazy git. Arsenal don't seem to be planning for the post Wenger era. Who will be managing Arsenal 2017/18?

As for your reasoning that Spurs title win will be devalued as they beat Leicester is moot. The title winners (if not LCFC) would have to beat Leicester like Chelsea did last year...and everyone else Spurs EPL title won't be any less because their main challengers are Leicester. The table doesn't lie. Leicester have been better than everyone else - except Spurs in the end. People can't get their heads around this as Leicester's team is made up for non leaguers (Vardy), lower level French football rejects (Mahrez, Kante), Man U youth cast offs (Drinkwater, Simpson) and damningly a player deemed not good enough for Villa (Albrighton). Arsenal will finish below this. Spurs probably won't. Ozil , Mertsacker, and Sanchez officially worse than Marc Albrighton, Schlupp and Wes Morgan And I wouldn't laugh too hard as a Gooners if Leicester win the title, be depressed that Marc Albrighton and Simpson will have a winners medal , not the likes of Bellerin

TBH, I'm not surprised you are enjoying this. Arsenal fans have been extremely smug about our team for a while and about our manager for a while and now people are seeing that neither the team or manager are anything to be smug about. We deserve this TBH

I'm at the stage where I say, keep Ozil, Sanchez, Cech, Koscielny and Bellerin and frankly I would not mind if any of the rest leave the club. Wenger has been far too loyal to players who have let him down time and time again.

[GiRTh]

Spurs look very good. Give them a couple more seasons and they will be one of the teams to beat.

If Arsenal fans saw half the fight in their team that we've seen from Spurs tonight, Liverpool against Dortmund and Athetico Madrid against Barca then I think there would be hardly any fans calling for Wengers head.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Spurs look very good. Give them a couple more seasons and they will be one of the teams to beat.

Hard to tell, as long as Spurs can keep hold of the Poch and Kane* they will be competing for top 4. Title will be harder with Pep's Man City, Jose's Man U and Conte's Chelsea. However, whereas the best of Leicester will be picked off and poached (Kante, Mahrez, Chilwell, Schmeichel), Spurs team is built to last and will have advantage of familiarity with each other whearas I suspect Mourinho, Pep and co will rip out their team and start from scratch, strangers playing together, having to adjust etc.

* Rumours that Poch is wanted by Real Madrid and Man U won't die and today's papers say Bayern and Madrid both want Kane who is seen as England's only sold class player.

[alex_front2]

Wenger has been at Arsenal too long and got set in old fashion out moded ways that no longer work. Sir Alex Fergie kept changing his no 2 and support backroom team (Rene Meulenstein, Brian Kidd, Steve McLaren, Carlos Quieros etc) so long term players got new messages. Wenger has kept Bould and stagnated.

Wenger lost Viera (11 years at Arsenal ) to Man City (1 season) as a coach, now Poch is apparently tapping up Arsenal captain Arteta to be a Spurs coach

Arsenal are out of ideas and are just stealing from Leicester now , they poached their technical scout, and now want Kante, Mahrez and even young defender Chilwell.

I used to see Wenger as quite smart, now he seems foolhardy, deluded and arrogant, like LVG.

[Cherry Christmas]

Squeaky bum time for Leicester