[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

All russians are responsible for putin and his actions.

They need to overthrow him now.

140m people and they allow this mad man to carry on.

No, it isn't that easy

they are too scared to express their views, afraid of getting arrested, ending up in siberia possibly

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

No, it isn't that easy

they are too scared to express their views, afraid of getting arrested, ending up in siberia possibly

excuses like this allowed for the holocaust.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

All russians are responsible for putin and his actions.

They need to overthrow him now.

140m people and they allow this mad man to carry on.

You think we're all responsible for what Johnson gets up to? And the Americans for Biden?

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You think we're all responsible for what Johnson gets up to? And the Americans for Biden?

Boris Johnson has a party and theres an uproar.

If he did anything remotely audacious as what Putin has done the British public would have him out on his arse.

So yes if we were to let him get away with it then we would be responsible.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Boris Johnson has a party and theres an uproar.

If he did anything remotely audacious as what Putin had done the British public would have him out on his arse.

So yes if we were to let him get away with it then we would be responsible.

clueless as ever i see


Putin has a military force backing him and his government, yes those are also guilty, but not all russian citizens support him, they are just too afraid to voice their opinions, or not showing up during election years, and those who attempt to vote get stopped by the military and told to head back or else (same apparently goes down in Belarus, with Lukashenko's military goons)


why do you think the group Little Big didn't represent them last year while they were selected for 2020, because they voiced their opinions against Putin so they got ''cancelled'' by their government so to say, since Putin decides everything there in terms of who represents them at ESC either (same was for Belarus with Lukashenko deciding those things either, hence why they got dq'd for that pro-dictatorship turd of a song)

[glib]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

clueless as ever i see

why do you think the group Little Big didn't represent them last year while they were selected for 2020, because they voiced their opinions against Putin so they got ''cancelled'' by their government so to say, since Putin decides everything there in terms of who represents them at ESC either (same was for Belarus with Lukashenko deciding those things either, hence why they got dq'd for that pro-dictatorship turd of a song)

Oh for goodness sake Nicky

There’s a war going on

Whoever is picked by Ukraine for the next Eurovision really isn’t at the top of the priority list right now

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

clueless as ever i see

your the clueless one. Russians shot down a plane killing 193 dutch people. the russian people never held their government accountable. you continue to defend russia and russian people. youre a disgrace to your country.

[Alf]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Alf, he is not in Power
Not even running to be a President.



Could he Win the Next USA Election?
Many say no.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Alf, he is not in Power
Not even running to be a President.



Could he Win the Next USA Election?
Many say no.

Neither is Joe Biden, that's the reason there is absolutely nothing he can do about this.

I know Trump isn't in power, I've told you, the military are in power, that's who Trump handed power over too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Neither is Joe Biden, that's the reason there is absolutely nothing he can do about this.

I know Trump isn't in power, I've told you, the military are in power, that's who Trump handed power over too.

Biden did Confirm he is running in 2024
get your facts right.

Joe Biden says he WILL run for president in 2024

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Biden did Confirm he is running in 2024
get your facts right.

Joe Biden says he WILL run for president in 2024

I'm not talking about him running. Although he most definitely won't be. I'm saying Joe Biden isn't in power right now.

[Nicky91]

this is beautiful


netherlands Erasmusbrug, Rotterdam


germany brandenburger tor, Berlin


unitedkingdom Downing Street 10, London


italy Colosseum in Rome


netherlands city hall in Arnhem they raised the ukrainian flag


https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/erasmus...vlag~a34a58fc/

[Oliver_W]

Apparently Ukraine is running a conscription?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Apparently Ukraine is running a conscription?

Yes, they are trying to fight back.
But time has run out.


Now Missiles are hitting the Capital.



The Leader will soon be replaced by a Russian.

[Parmy]

11 labour mps who were siding with the Russians....have backed down like the chicken livers they are

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tarmer-warning

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

11 labour mps who were siding with the Russians....have backed down like the chicken livers they are

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tarmer-warning

How did I know Corbyn and bloody Diane Abbott would be involved




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[Candy Annie Cane]

I saw on the news yesterday that Russian State TV have played down the invasion of Ukraine - many Russians have not seen the extent of the firepower they have brought against their neighbours. I don't know how restricted the Russian population is with regards to external news sources but the footage the Russians had been shown on their TV news was very different to what we are seeing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I saw on the news yesterday that Russian State TV have played down the invasion of Ukraine - many Russians have not seen the extent of the firepower they have brought against their neighbours. I don't know how restricted the Russian population is with regards to external news sources but the footage the Russians had been shown on their TV news was very different to what we are seeing.

Of Course
that is how Leader Putin
likes it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I saw on the news yesterday that Russian State TV have played down the invasion of Ukraine - many Russians have not seen the extent of the firepower they have brought against their neighbours. I don't know how restricted the Russian population is with regards to external news sources but the footage the Russians had been shown on their TV news was very different to what we are seeing.

They're bombing areas where people live. This is starting to look like déjà vu. History repeating itself.
Putin has to be stopped, before he becomes another Hitler

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I saw on the news yesterday that Russian State TV have played down the invasion of Ukraine - many Russians have not seen the extent of the firepower they have brought against their neighbours. I don't know how restricted the Russian population is with regards to external news sources but the footage the Russians had been shown on their TV news was very different to what we are seeing.

At least Russia isn't like China though ("The Great Firewall" etc. - China is basically walled off from much of the "real" internet and VPN use is risky) - they do have relatively open internet access and an internet-savvy population who will know how to circumvent any blocking that is in place with VPN's... so, they will definitely be seeing unrestricted footage out of Ukraine via social media and non-Russian media sources.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I saw on the news yesterday that Russian State TV have played down the invasion of Ukraine - many Russians have not seen the extent of the firepower they have brought against their neighbours. I don't know how restricted the Russian population is with regards to external news sources but the footage the Russians had been shown on their TV news was very different to what we are seeing.

Presumably the all have access to the internet / social media/ YouTube etc


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Presumably the all have access to the internet / social media/ YouTube etc

Yeah I said before, Russia aren't "cut off" from global news like China is and they will be well aware of the news online and on social media. However of course there will always be a large group of people who are more inclined to trust televised/printed state media than what they see online e.g. the number of people who take Fox / CNN (depending on leaning) as "the truth" and ignore all else. Many people, especially older generations, will trust what they're being shown on the TV news within Russia.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah I said before, Russia aren't "cut off" from global news like China is and they will be well aware of the news online and on social media. However of course there will always be a large group of people who are more inclined to trust televised/printed state media than what they see online e.g. the number of people who take Fox / CNN (depending on leaning) as "the truth" and ignore all else. Many people, especially older generations, will trust what they're being shown on the TV news within Russia.

i've spent quite a bit of time in russia and anyone under 60 knows the games putin is playing. They aren't a people that trust anything easily.

Even in the last 5 years it has become very difficult to openly voice dissent. Justice is very harsh and it's not unusual for the police to get their batons out and beat people within an inch of their lives. It's very very difficult there

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Presumably the all have access to the internet / social media/ YouTube etc


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I didn't know if they are like China where they control what the sites are. TS clarified that's not the case