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He is also on the 7 Leaders Debate ITV1HD Live 8:30PM

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Chipping Barnet

Conservative: Theresa Villiers
Labour : Dan Tomlinson
Lib Dems: Mark Durrant
Green: David Farbey
Reform UK: Richard Hewison

and an independent

[Crimson Dynamo]

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

Not entirely incompatible, socialist-leaning policies aren't necessarily at odds with capitalism. You're going down the dumdum American route (lie/propaganda over there) of suggesting that "socialism" is synonymous with "communism".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Not entirely incompatible, socialist-leaning policies aren't necessarily at odds with capitalism. You're going down the dumdum American route (lie/propaganda over there) of suggesting that "socialism" is synonymous with "communism".

The word socialism is about as much use as the term "working class"

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The word socialism is about as much use as the term "working class"

Then both are as much use as any other common political parlance

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

Socialism isn't the belief that no one should be rich, it's the belief that no one should be poor..

Starmer isn't a socialist, he's a C

[The Slim Reaper]

This is who the labour party is these days.

[bots]

Labour are the most left leaning party that have a realistic chance of becoming the government in the UK.

My point about farage was that by going after the tories, the only people he is helping are to the left in British politics. If the tories end up with less than 70 seats, which is possible the way things are going, it gives freedom to labour to shift further and further to the left unopposed because the tories are likely to be out of the running for a long time

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Labour are the most left leaning party that have a realistic chance of becoming the government in the UK.

My point about farage was that by going after the tories, the only people he is helping are to the left in British politics. If the tories end up with less than 70 seats, which is possible the way things are going, it gives freedom to labour to shift further and further to the left unopposed because the tories are likely to be out of the running for a long time

Being the most left-leaning party whilst up against the hardest RW tory government in memory, is completely redundant. It's like saying that Goebbels was the most left leaning member of the Nazi party.

Labour as a party is not in any way left leaning these days, and Farage is obviously playing the long game to ingratiate himself as future leader of the tory party. He's not helping the left by running in Clacton. It's a move to take over the party you have voted for, for most of your life.

Even if what you said was true, it's still worthless because Tories were always getting wiped out in this election. it's been obvious since covid, and there was nothing anyone (on the right or left) could have done to change that, so whether tories have 100 seats or 70 seats, the result was always the same.

[bots]

i wonder if i should put a bet on that by election day, the greens will be more popular than the tories

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Sunak Away in Italy

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Tonight

BBC1HD 7:30PM Starmer Interviewed by Nick Robinson

Not Live. 28mins

[Alf]

Dawn is down with the kids. You get me?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Dawn is down with the kids. You get me?

Have you seen The Acolyte's Witches chanting scene?

I've been trying to find the clip again, but no such luck so far.

Anyway, the scene would make this video look cool in comparison.

[Alf]

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?

No Deals
No

[James]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?

Originally Posted by arista

No Deals
No

They are bringing the ban on new sales of petrol, diesel and hybrid cars back to 2030, instead of 2035.