[bots]

[arista]

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yep and hand out fines to those who aren't at their homes in time

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yep and hand out fines to those who aren't at their homes in time

Yes sad the Youngers out in Paris Streets
last night saying no to Lockdown


Macron hand out Big Fines


Fools.



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[arista]

[A 'lonely and scared' elderly woman was found
sleeping rough on the streets of
Manchester city centre with only a duvet to keep her warm]


Burnham get that biddie
into a Hotel
send the Bill to London.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eet-duvet.html

[Nicky91]

netherlands today numbers

11,141 new cases

250 new hospitalisations (2,385 in total)

37 new on the ICU (in total 567)

87 new deaths

[Kizzy]

West Yorkshire's tier 3 from Monday, so what's the plan when the whole country is tier 3 as it looks like it's going to end up that way soon.
Tier 4? 5? 6?

[The Slim Reaper]

Midlands going t3 next week, too.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

West Yorkshire's tier 3 from Monday, so what's the plan when the whole country is tier 3 as it looks like it's going to end up that way soon.
Tier 4? 5? 6?

go for a even stricter lockdown than at the first wave

that is another possibility (cause you can't go back to the same lockdown, so if you guys need another one, it needs to be a lot stricter)

and that might be like, only leave your home with a form (paperwork) only for crucial things such as grocery shopping, pharmacy, doctor but other than that no one out on streets who got no specific reason of doing so

that will put an end to illegal partying

and to fight off loneliness, create your own ''socializing bubble'' with family who live with you, socialize at home with them, perhaps a time to dust off old board games, or watch shows on tv together

those who live alone, very much a helpful advice to use facetime, skype maybe 3 or 4 days a week, frequent phone calls with relatives, friends whom you got phone numbers of

#StayHome and lemme use our slogan (translating into english for this forum) #OnlyTogetherWeCanBeatCorona

[bots]

its quite possible that most regions may get to t 3 at some point, but by staggering when they come in and out of it, we stand a chance of keeping the economy going rather than places closing that don't need to

We have 5 months of this to get through yet, we cannot remain shut for 5 months without being bankrupt

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its quite possible that most regions may get to t 3 at some point, but by staggering when they come in and out of it, we stand a chance of keeping the economy going rather than places closing that don't need to

We have 5 months of this to get through yet, we cannot remain shut for 5 months without being bankrupt

Sure many ways forward,
it is shocking that Nurse staff are still getting infected with
Covid-19.

[arista]

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its quite possible that most regions may get to t 3 at some point, but by staggering when they come in and out of it, we stand a chance of keeping the economy going rather than places closing that don't need to

We have 5 months of this to get through yet, we cannot remain shut for 5 months without being bankrupt

I don't understand what you mean by staggering when we come in and out of it, we don't get to choose when we come in and out of it the virus does?

The only places that are not going to be severely impacted are semi rural areas, how are they meant to support the economy?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't understand what you mean by staggering when we come in and out of it, we don't get to choose when we come in and out of it the virus does?

The only places that are not going to be severely impacted are semi rural areas, how are they meant to support the economy?

not everyone is going in to t3 at the same time .... the time they are in t3 will depend on how quick they get the numbers under control, so regions are staggered in their timing in t3. They are not all going to come out of t3 on March 31st

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: Second wave death toll set to exceed worst-case scenario, Sage warns...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...155246950.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure many ways forward,

it is shocking that Nurse staff are still getting infected with

Covid-19.

Plus many care home deaths are supposedly higher than they were at its peak .. it’s bewildering to imagine that happening again !


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[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Coronavirus: Second wave death toll set to exceed worst-case scenario, Sage warns...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...155246950.html

here is the cheery report ....

Covid is spreading "significantly" faster through England than even the government's predicted "worst-case" scenario, documents reveal.

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

A "reasonable worst-case scenario" is used by officials and the NHS to plan for the months ahead.

It had estimated 85,000 deaths from Covid over the course of winter.

But an official Sage document, dated 14 October and published today, reveals we are in a worse position than expected.

Scientists crunching the numbers estimated that, by mid-October, there were between 43,000 and 74,000 people being infected with coronavirus every day in England.

Their report said: "This is significantly above the profile of the reasonable worst-case scenario, where the number of daily infections in England remained between 12,000-13,000 throughout October."

It added that the number of people with Covid needing hospital care is already higher than the winter plan and deaths will "almost certainly" exceed the plan in the next two weeks.

[Zizu]

Just watching Sky News showing the horrific scenes in Nottingham centre last night where thousands congregated drinking and dancing .. some were even shown going behind the police then knocking their hats off and scarpering .
All faces clear to see not a mask to be seen


We’re doomed .


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[utopianman]

mark drakeford has given up on any subtlety or nuanced approach and said no more local lockdowns , just total wales lockdowns. His reasoning to avoid any confusion. But Cardiffs rate is 15 times that of cardigan per person, as it has been before , surely he needs to treat the 2 places differently doesnt he?
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even if we factor in cardiffs population is about 6 times the size at 478,000 and ceredigion is only 75000

The cardiff rate is still 15 times per person greater than ceredigion

Yet drakeford is treating both areas the same? seems a bit draconian and plain daft

[utopianman]

whats the latest on ventilators? do we have enough

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by utopianman

whats the latest on ventilators? do we have enough

A few months ago I seem to recall the talk was all about not needing ventilation for most cases ... wasn’t there some development in a machine that simply got more oxygen into the system thereby nullifying the need for ventilation ??

It’s all gone quiet on that front for some reason


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[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Zizu

A few months ago I seem to recall the talk was all about not needing ventilation for most cases ... wasn’t there some development in a machine that simply got more oxygen into the system thereby nullifying the need for ventilation ??

It’s all gone quiet on that front for some reason


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very odd , they talk a subject to death a few months ago as you say and now no one mentions it?

also why has no journalist ever asked about shutting down the channel tunnel for all but essential emergencies?

[bots]

we have loads of ventilators and they are indeed not needed as much because of more refined treatment methods. We should also remember that hospitals always fill up in winter with respiratory disease

[utopianman]

Setting up covid quarantine hospitals in these field hospitals is the ONLY way we can survive this covid tidal wave

[arista]

24,405 tested for Covid-19 today

274 have died from Covid-10 today

Patients in hospital
10,708

Patients in ventilator beds
975

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/