[arista]

As you walk near Folks
if you can smell Tobacco Smoke
that is the same as catching Covid-19
in outside venues


Top Professor told us
on CNN HD live.

[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

As you walk near Folks
if you can smell Tobacco Smoke
that is the same as catching Covid-19
in outside venues


Top Professor told us
on CNN HD live.

This is dumbed down to the point that it’s barely accurate.

[bots]

if you can smell anything you have the capacity to catch covid given that it is in droplets in the air. So just to clarify, if you can breathe, you can catch covid

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if you can smell anything you have the capacity to catch covid given that it is in droplets in the air. So just to clarify, if you can breathe, you can catch covid

Again in theory yes. Like if you had AIDS or were completely immunosuppressed with cancer drugs or something. Other than that, the main factor in infection is viral dose and the viral dose you’ll get from someone more than 2m away outdoors is tiny. Sense of smell is INSANELY sensitive, compared to the viral dose needed for infection. Particles disperse extremely quickly outdoors.

It’s true of indoors because the longer you’re in an indoor space with someone (with poor ventilation), the higher concentration builds up in the air you’re breathing.

Essentially, you’re more likely to catch Covid from someone in the same indoor space as you sat 10m away than you are to catch it from someone outdoors 5m away (effectively impossible unless they sneeze directly at you).

The idea that “if you can smell something you could catch Covid from that same something” is ludicrous: you can smell something like a barbecue cooking, or weed, from 50+ metres away. Probably cigarette smoke, if enough people are smoking. You’re not catching Covid from a garden party two streets away.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

New NHS data suggests 23% of people with Covid infections in hospital were admitted for other reasons.

Hospitals in England have released more detail than usual about the number of Covid patients in their care.

The government denies NHS pressures had previously been overstated by counting all patients testing positive.

All patients are routinely tested for Covid upon admission, whatever their reason for coming to hospital.

The Department for Health and Social Care said this measure was still "the most important" because of the impact Covid-positive patients have on NHS capacity and workforce pressure.

This allows hospitals to provide the most appropriate care and use the right infection control measures to help stop the spread of the virus.

Patients with Covid should be treated away from non-infected patients.

But critics say until now, published hospital data may not have reflected the true toll of Covid on the NHS.

The government says the new data will help scientists to track to what extent vaccines are reducing severe Covid.

NHS England began collecting more detailed hospital Covid data in June 2021, at the request of Prof Keith Willett, NHS Strategic Incident Director.

The latest statistics, for 27 July 2021, show:

5,021 beds are occupied by patients who tested positive for Covid
3,855 of those patients are being treated primarily for Covid-19
This signifies that 1,166 are being treated primarily for something other than the virus
Some of these 'other' patients may have conditions that have been made worse by Covid or to which Covid has contributed, says NHS England.

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: "The Health and Social Care Secretary asked for this data to help us better understand the impact of the vaccine programme on stopping people infected with Covid requiring hospital treatment.

"The total number of patients with Covid - whether that is primarily what they are being treated for or not - remains a crucial indicator of pressure on the NHS, since all those patients require careful infection control including quarantining and PPE."

Prof Carl Heneghan, from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at Oxford University, said the change was long overdue.

"We have been crying out for it for nearly 18 months," Prof Heneghan said.

He said the data suggested, historically, tens of thousands of patients who were counted in hospital data as Covid cases may have been people who were admitted for other health reasons.

"High quality, accurate data is essential for healthcare decision making. Including the NHSE data in the daily updates will facilitate policy informed by the actual number of hospital admissions for Covid."

Prof Sir David Spiegelhalter, from the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication at the University of Cambridge, said: "The main role for hospitalisation statistics is to indicate the pressure on the NHS.

"Patients with Covid have to be treated in a resource-intensive way, whether Covid was the primary reason for their admission or not, and even if they caught it in hospital.

"Therefore the total number in hospital with Covid seems an appropriate overall summary statistic, although this new breakdown does provide additional information."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58025045

Originally Posted by [B

LeatherTrumpet;11079419]so a 1/4 got covid IN the hospital[/B];?

the data STINKS

no it means if you went into hospital to have a baby and you tested positive for covid you were added to the numbers in hospital with covid figures, so those figures are massively screwed, they can surely separate those who went in with covid and those who went in to fix a broken leg but tested positive when admitted but are asymptomatic and not unwell

[arista]

Saturday 31/7/21

71 have Died
26,144 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,916

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
869


129,654 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

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[arista]

Yes Zizu
good job we do not have that, yet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

pity they did not warn about Covid?

[DouglasS]

Fearmongering if I ever saw it

May as well also post

“Experts believes a meteroid is heading to earth in the next year, this would kill 7 billion people predicted”

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Fearmongering if I ever saw it

May as well also post

“Experts believes a meteroid is heading to earth in the next year, this would kill 7 billion people predicted”

talk about ar$e covering

absolute disgrace

[arista]

[arista]

[Beso]

As long as the over 50s who are self employed who have worked since day 1 get a tax exemption then I can handle fat frankie and his skinny Jeans munching on a free takeaway, for being so brave

Personally, I would offer them all a wee lollipop to wipe away the tears.

[arista]

[arista]

USA : CNN HD (SkyHD)
Inside Politics Live

90% of infections are the Delta Variant.

Biden originally said by now they would be free.
But now he says mask will have to return.

Meanwhile in Florida
the Republican Leader DeSantis
is not following Biden.

A Black Husband and Wife
who were Anti Vax
but got Covid, after hospital
they now are getting vaccinated.



As well as Disney
Walmart, are now making sure all workers are vaccinated

[arista]

[Israel Is Offering Its Older Citizens
A 3rd COVID-19 Shot As Infections Rise]

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...=1627825575057

[arista]

Sunday 1/8/21

65 have Died
24,470 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,916

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
869


129,719 UK Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

25/7/21 Sunday

28 have Died
29,173 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699


129,158 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Originally Posted by arista

Sunday 1/8/21

65 have Died
24,470 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,916

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
869


129,719 UK Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[user104658]

Have to admit it's increasingly looking like the UK's covid data is only useful for identifying trends, the "flat numbers" are very loose in terms of accuracy. That said... identifying trends is the only actually useful data anyway, the rest is just to look at and say "Oh nooo".

[bots]

we are now 2 weeks after freedom day. It's pretty difficult to know whats going on with infections and hospital/death data is probably a month away before freedom day onward will be included. So all we can do is wait and see. It certainly seems to be pretty flat data at the moment

[arista]

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