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Vicky. · 29-07-2009, 02:10 PM

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And how ridiculous to suggest lisa and co teamed up against freddie because they were forced to as outsiders....

No that's what Freddie/Marcus/Siavash did, forced friendship or teamship.

Yet Siavash and Marcus voted for him in the early days, and Siavash used to enjoy socialising with Team Lisa, smoking with them and saying how he only bothers with Freddie because he's alone.

You have no evidence to suggest anyone cares about Freddie's money.

He was the loneliest person in the house and hasn't scored with one chick yet, so the money thing is obviously not working for him.

BTW I do think Lisa liked Kenneth, she's aware of the reality of modern day dating. He's a playboy.

When did I mention freddies money?

WAYNEEBRUM · 29-07-2009, 02:10 PM

some funny and ridiculous posts in here.keep it up

jet · 29-07-2009, 02:11 PM

Lisa didn't lick around Freddie anything as much as the others when she found out he was popular. She still isn't doing it.

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:12 PM

yeah but the chinese millionaire was karlys boyfriend... if he came in and wasnt karlys boyfriend i bet lisa would have dissaproved!!

she has been staying under the radar and not blown into big arguments since kris was the first nasty to be evicted!!

she not the least dishonest at all

Vicky. · 29-07-2009, 02:12 PM

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Lisa didn't lick around Freddie anything as much as the others when she found out he was popular. She still isn't doing it.

No, she didnt asslick, but she backed off pretty quickly didnt she...no more poking him in the head from that day

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:13 PM

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Lisa didn't lick around Freddie anything as much as the others when she found out he was popular. She still isn't doing it.

she now playing a game since kris left and staying under the radar!!

Vicky. · 29-07-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by WAYNEEBRUM
some funny and ridiculous posts in here.keep it up

Look what you started

AhmedFan2004 · 29-07-2009, 02:14 PM

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but kenneth was karlys boyfriend.. of course lisa got along with him!! he didnt stay long enough for an argument to erupt!!

Look at Lisa in the 1st week for example. She made friends with all types of people; straight males, gay males, blacks, indians, mothers, hot blondes, etc.

Nobody cares about Freddie's money or any of that BS. I don't think many were even aware for the first two weeks.

I honestly think Freddie just had a problem fitting in and socializing. He's not as care-free and as easy mingling as Lisa is.

I mean look at his reaction to Bea, when she first arrived. Lisa would not react like that, she realises that anyone can suck and be horrible, and that you should make friends with all types of people.

AhmedFan2004 · 29-07-2009, 02:15 PM

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When did I mention freddies money?

I was referring to BBfanatic, making false reasons for Freddie's 'bullying'.

A big problem, causing many arguments, is lack of Live Feed.

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:16 PM

but lisa hasnt fallen in love in the house!! FREDDIE HAS!!

and they are bothered about his money because they say he doesnt deserve to win because he has money!

freddie tried to be friends and socialise with lisa and that more than they did with freddie!! they through his approachfullness back in his face!!

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:17 PM

well its lack of live feed that maybe we havnt seen lisa backstab and that! she has bitched about people behind their back but in a clever way!

jet · 29-07-2009, 02:19 PM

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Lisa didn't lick around Freddie anything as much as the others when she found out he was popular. She still isn't doing it.

No, she didnt asslick, but she backed off pretty quickly didnt she...no more poking him in the head from that day

Okay....Lisa poked poor defenseless little Freddie in the head!!!!

The other HM's can be as hateful, back stabbing dishonest. et etc as they like and they won't be as hated as Lisa - because they could NEVER top that!

WAYNEEBRUM · 29-07-2009, 02:21 PM

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some funny and ridiculous posts in here.keep it up

Look what you started

no tumbleweed anymore

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:21 PM

lisa and the nasties BULLIED freddie!! as soon as one of their "chronies" left.. they changed!! pathetic!!

AhmedFan2004 · 29-07-2009, 02:21 PM

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but lisa hasnt fallen in love in the house!! FREDDIE HAS!!

and they are bothered about his money because they say he doesnt deserve to win because he has money!

freddie tried to be friends and socialise with lisa and that more than they did with freddie!! they through his approachfullness back in his face!!

So Freddie fell in love the time she walked through those doors? That just makes it worse. His emotions would be directly linked to prejudices.

The point they were making is that someone else deserves to win because they need the money more. It's not like Freddie is the only decent HM, if they did think he was ever a decent HM!

Freddie did try, and was actually part of the group very early on when the house was divided into HMs and Non HMs. I don't know what went wrong, personality clashes and his habits perhaps.

We needed Live Feed. It's also different being in the house. You can't pick up on vibes, subtle behaviour, expressions etc on screen.

Vicky. · 29-07-2009, 02:23 PM

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Lisa didn't lick around Freddie anything as much as the others when she found out he was popular. She still isn't doing it.

No, she didnt asslick, but she backed off pretty quickly didnt she...no more poking him in the head from that day

Okay....Lisa poked poor defenseless little Freddie in the head!!!!

The other HM's can be as hateful, back stabbing dishonest. et etc as they like and they won't be as hated as Lisa - because they could NEVER top that!

It was the agressive way that she did it, and practically spitting in his face while she was shouting, disgusting.

Vicky. · 29-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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So Freddie fell in love the time she walked through those doors? That just makes it worse. His emotions would be directly linked to prejudices.

And how, exactly is this?

AhmedFan2004 · 29-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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lisa and the nasties BULLIED freddie!! as soon as one of their "chronies" left.. they changed!! pathetic!!

They didn't bully Freddie. If they bullied Freddie, they would have been warned and/or kicked out of the house by BB. There are rules in place.

Not being in a social group does not mean you were bullied. Is Freddie bullying now then, because nobody is allowed in his hippy bubble with Bea?

Marcus is isolated, upset and self-destructing, yet Freddie never talks to him now. Much loyalty ... not.

jet · 29-07-2009, 02:24 PM

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lisa and the nasties BULLIED freddie!! as soon as one of their "chronies" left.. they changed!! pathetic!!

Marcus bullied Sree in a horrible way. Why isn't he the most hated housemate then? Is bullying okay for one person and not for another?

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:24 PM

you cant help who you bloody fall in love with!!

and i bet its a tense and horrible house with lisa!!

freddie has many quirky and natural different ways about him!!

freddie is not a prejudiced at all! he gives everyone a chance! and hes such a nice and accepting human being!

we probs see more edits of freddie and bea together because big brother just wants to edit and conjure up "potential love stories"

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:25 PM

freddies not in the social group now.. but hes left alone to do his thing!! lisa and the nasties were constantly "having a go" at him!! they were BULLYING him!!!! their treatment towards him was a DISGRACE!

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:26 PM

because when people approach marcus.. marcus has told them to go away! hes probs said that to freddie as well but its not shown in the highlights show!

Beastie · 29-07-2009, 02:27 PM

sree said vile words to freddie and used freddie dyslexia against him!! hes prejudiced!!

yeah i agree marcus bullied sree a bit!!

but we are not on about him! we are on about lisa!!

Niamh. · 29-07-2009, 02:28 PM

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but lisa was guilty of reverse snobbery!! she didnt like freddie! and she doesnt want him to win because hes already rich!! she has a problem with posh rich people who have actually worked for their money!

She just didn't like him because of his personality. She's the least prejudiced HM of the series.

Look at the list I posted - Wide array of types of people.

She just didn't like Freddie. Like everyone else in the house, including Siavash and Marcus too, who also nominated him in the early days.

They only teamed up for a while because they were forced too, as the outsiders/individuals.

She made friends with Kenneth, a multi-millionaire.

It's Freddie who ditches everybody, the time a posh white middle class female arrives.

Again, what is your problem with freddie fancying someone?

And how ridiculous to suggest lisa and co teamed up against freddie because they were forced to as outsiders...

The one good thing lisa has going for her is her loyalty to her friends though, she was very loyal to karly when she was evicted. I do not believe for a second she was friends with kenneth, quite the opposite infact, it seemed like she was trying to prove to karly what a dick he was by a lot of her comments. Which is a good thing.

And another thing, Freddie thought he had a connection with Noirin (in other words he fancied her) and I'm sure he would have got with her if he'd had the chance Noirin = Black, Irish girl so him sticking with posh white middle class females is not true, he didn't exactly have many girls to choose from in there so you can't blame him for liking Bea, she was about the only girl in there who showed any interest in him!!

AhmedFan2004 · 29-07-2009, 02:28 PM

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So Freddie fell in love the time she walked through those doors? That just makes it worse. His emotions would be directly linked to prejudices.

And how, exactly is this?

Because it would mean he'd be falling in love straight from the off with a girl, just because she fits into his socio-economic category, and ethnic category. He'd have a little more credibility if he fell in love after a week of getting to know her, and ideally other HMs.

It's similar to Marcus hating Tom instantly because Tom was alpha and everything Marcus wanted to be (but wasn't!) ... but in reverse.

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