[Patricia4]

Originally posted by Daffodil
I have never forgiven him for the false hide and seek thing that he and Kris did to poor Freddie.

That was'nt funny I shall not forget that either he's a sneak.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Charlie is a little sneak. When telling Norin and Issac about some HMs going into the DR to support Marcus, Norin kept saying Rodrigos name (another little sneak who I despise) Charlie didn't even bat an eyelid. Rodrigo didn't go into the DR with the others and Charlie didn't defend this to Norin. I don't understand how Charlie is in the top six let alone the top three. He does my head in the whole time, the whole time, the whole time, the whole time, the whole time, the whole time etc.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Horrible nasty piece of work.

[Tulip]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

You have my sympathy. All round you, you see only badness. People must have treated you very badly in the past to fill you with such bile. Try seeing the good in people and they MAY find some in you.

Perhaps it would also make sense to be a little more objective in YOUR assessment of Charlie too.
I have repeatedly said he isn't all bad - but he certainly isn't the faultless angel that you seem to see.
Maybe some more intelligent reasoning is required here - to suggest he is a total paragon of goodness and virtue is just as daft as suggesting he is pure evil!
In an aggregate of his qualities I find his devious characteristics nullify many of his genuinely pleasant ones, and that makes me question his overall behavioural motives.

[Striptease]

Origineel gepost door santaa
Nothing wrong with trying to get along with everyone. Thats what nice people do

yeah but he nominated Noirin

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Tulip

Perhaps it would also make sense to be a little more objective in YOUR assessment of Charlie too.
I have repeatedly said he isn't all bad - but he certainly isn't the faultless angel that you seem to see.
Maybe some more intelligent reasoning is required here - to suggest he is a total paragon of goodness and virtue is just as daft as suggesting he is pure evil!
In an aggregate of his qualities I find his devious characteristics nullify many of his genuinely pleasant ones, and that makes me question his overall behavioural motives.

So your expression "sly, evil turd" is your version of objectivity? My words are in reaction to your intemperate words. I have never said he has done nothing wrong, what I have said is that I see no ill-intent in his actions and I really DO think he is a gentle soul who wants the best for everyone.
Charlie

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

So the expression "sly, evil turd" is your version of objectivity? My words are in reaction to your intemperate words. I have never said he has done nothing wrong, what I have said is that I see no ill-intent in his actions and I really DO think he is a gentle soul who wants the best for everyone.
Charlie

[Tulip]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Actually I think you will find the quote to which you refer was not mine!
The "intemperate words" are another's.
I wrote that to say he was evil is just as daft as to say that he is a paragon of virtue.
In my opinion amongst other, not always unpleasant characteristics, his behaviour often suggests that he is certainly sly.
The fact that his is constantly REPEATING that he wants the best for everyone and that he likes everyone TO everyone suggests that he "protesteth too much"!
Truly good people in my experience rarely need to constantly affirm this to others.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Tulip


Actually I think you will find the quote to which you refer was not mine!
The "intemperate words" are another's.
I wrote that to say he was evil is just as daft as to say that he is a paragon of virtue.
In my opinion amongst other, not always unpleasant characteristics, his behaviour often suggests that he is certainly sly.
The fact that his is constantly REPEATING that he wants the best for everyone and that he likes everyone TO everyone suggests that he "protesteth too much"!
Truly good people in my experience rarely need to constantly affirm this to others.

Yes, I did ty to edit my post to say THE intemperate words rather than 'your' intemperate words. Please accept my apologies.

As for the other point, I am more than happy to say 'he wants the best for everyone' to save him having to say it. He appears very sensitive to feelings of animosity in the house and does his best to calm these feelings. He never says things that he is not happy to admit to having said. He is quick to say mea culpa when he has made a well-intentiond mistake.

I don't think he is sly, he is an open book and refreshingly transparent when compared to most of the others in the house.
Charlie

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Can't we just say that he is a big sneak and leave it at that. We don't need explanations.

[InOne]

Charlie is playing the sympathy card and putting on the loveable geordie act. It's not fooling anyone, why do you think he is targetting rodrigo? He has him sussed, and im glad Rodders pisses him off, it's when he shows his true colours.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Can't we just say that he is a big sneak and leave it at that. We don't need explanations.

Guess so. Equally I could cast aspersions on you without justification, but see no point.

Charlie is a good guy.
Charlie

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by InOne
Charlie is playing the sympathy card and putting on the loveable geordie act. It's not fooling anyone, why do you think he is targetting rodrigo? He has him sussed, and im glad Rodders p****s him off, it's when he shows his true colours.

What is with this sympathy card crapola again?

Charlie

[Jiffy18]

its because he knew rachel won last year by being nice and sitting on the fence and putting this with all the housemates wanting him to win. Hes being extra sly to put the icing on the cake thinking hes got it in the bud.

uh uhhh

[Beastie]

but in the house no one thought rachel was going to win!!

they thought kat was going to win!!

[Beastie]

rachel was rachel!!

housemates want charlie to win as a sympathy vote! i do feel sorry for him that his mum is in a coma!! but thats no reason for someone to win!

[nickc25]

He is a **** stirrer and my 3rd hated housemate after lisa and davith

[prkp12]

hes a bitch!

[StevieGeire]

i cannot stand charlie but saying that the public have short memeroys i wish they would remember this when he is up for eviction.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by nickc25
He is a **** stirrer and my 3rd hated housemate after lisa and davith

He is a peacemaker, sometimes **** has to be stirred to make people realise how petty they are being. All well intentioned and usually productive of harmony once the air has cleared. A little ventilation promotes fresh air. Good for you Charlie, keep up the good work
Charlie

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by StevieGeire
i cannot stand charlie but saying that the public have short memeroys i wish they would remember this when he is up for eviction.

Why would remembering that you cannot stand Charlie have any effect on the public vote? We don't know you!

[InOne]

The_long_run, his mum being in a coma, he told Isaac like as soon as he entered, he is trying to do what Craig did in BB1 except Craig was genuine.

[tedmaul]

It's not so much the fact that he told Noirin & Isaac about the others, it's the fact that he then claimed he thought they knew already and that he didn't see any need to correct Noirin when she said Rodrigo was in on it aswell

[StevieGeire]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Why would remembering that you cannot stand Charlie have any effect on the public vote? We don't know you!

now cmon i'm talking about whats was stated in the topic use your brain

[i]
charlie is one of my favs

Dogface or Charlie to Wiin