[NolasGirl]

Setanta- OK. I think you're straying so far from the heart of this..so off the mark. It was just a well articulated point.

[setanta]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
Everything is reactionary--your reaction to my reaction is reaction. Our reaction to tonights show is a reaction. That is life and why is that bad?

And yes, I have been emotive as I explained as I feel passionately about these issues....so

How anal are you to pick up on just one word and argue over it's usage? Wow, I'm off to bed. Can't listen to anymore of your misguided ramblings.

[setanta]

Originally posted by NolasGirl
Setanta- OK. I think you're straying so far from the heart of this..so off the mark. It was just a well articulated point.

I'm not at all. If she's willing to form an insane connection between pure evil and the housemates than I'll revel in the same wild flights of fancy myself. Just trying to illustrate how ridiculous it is.

[puffpuffpuff]

And I didn't actually compare the housemates to Nazis or Freddie to an Archangel.. I was simply making an analogy and applying it on a much larger scale to emphasise how both our feelings and thoughts are vitally important in understanding any situation. For example, were we to use pure logic and not human emotion in assessing Hitlers motives for WW2 we might fall into the sophistry that he wanted a mass genocide, racial cleansing, the execution of all those afflicted with genetic anomolies in favour of a master race and logically speaking this idealism might appeal to the unfeeling mind with an intellectual vision, an almost mathetmatical notion of perfection but when we use our feeling, we see that it is a horrendously evil idealism, destroying others for its ends...

So, I was just stating the case that yes my post is all about my feelings but feelings are important and I drew an analogy with Nazi Germany but it wasn't quite such a one to one correlation with Nazi Germany and the housemates as you wrongfully claim.....

[Big_Kahuna]

I think you are jealous and a bit of a geek

[Big_Kahuna]

and also want a job............. haha

[fitz2k2]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
I seriously distrust her motives believing them to be entirely nefarious..Has she even watched the show? I seriously get the impression they show maybe two/three clips max to her and then she adds her completely futile two cents which is almost always invariably wrong and involves the complete reduction of human beings to mere instruments and prisoners of our evolutionary history..Then, when the housemate disagrees with her about her mischaracterisation of them and the other housemates she just vacantly and vapidly grins at them with an almost palpable sense of bubbling resentment and arrogance beneath her composure..She is the sort of therapist one would want to avoid..

Tonight it basically sounded as though she pinned absolutely everything that happened in the house to Freddy on Freddy when in fact some people really are just bullies. They ostracised him from day 1 as he was different and is a soft person. I was just rather irate when she effectively I think bullied him some more by identifying and affiliating herself with the pack mentality of the housemates and ridiculed his social skills. Methinks this is one prejudiced lady.

I really believe the woman is an idiot! Freddy was actually the most discerning person as regards peoples characters as he has some degree of integrity in his personality. Integrity is the cornerstone of discernment. Freddys (general) consistancy only illuminates the selfish motives and vices in others and has done from the very beginning. The only person in which he became lost was the nasty Bea..Honestly, Judy James just slung a few insults at the guy and feigned that the rest of the housemates were just paragons of virtue who couldn't relate to Freddy and his awful social skills when actually 99% of them in their bar Marcus are small minded, self seeking, pack, petty assholes!!

She really does get on me goat. BAD Psychologist

dont hate because she is deeper then u

[puffpuffpuff]

What is this freaking "Saved by the Bell"?..Do you still categorise people by "cool people" and "geeks"..Well, I'm just extrapolating and I think it is quite interesting tbh...

Some maturity might be in order..you sound very shallow..and a supporter of Charlie and Kris too

[puffpuffpuff]

And I have a job actually.....

[Big_Kahuna]

I'm marcus, wow is this beas sister?

[NolasGirl]

I don't really get why this girl is being berated for these posts. I didn't find anything unbalanced/bitter or overly emotive in them at all. What's the problem?

[puffpuffpuff]

And I have a cooler name then you!..it implies all those legal substances they sell in Amsterdam for your lightheaded pleasure while yours implies sheer silliness and dorkiness..change yo name man if you wanna fit in

[Big_Kahuna]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
And I have a cooler name then you!..it implies all those legal substances they sell in Amsterdam for your lightheaded pleasure while yours implies sheer silliness and dorkiness..change yo name man if you wanna fit in

OMG you're so cool you smoke weed pfft silly girl

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
I seriously distrust her motives believing them to be entirely nefarious..Has she even watched the show? I seriously get the impression they show maybe two/three clips max to her and then she adds her completely futile two cents which is almost always invariably wrong and involves the complete reduction of human beings to mere instruments and prisoners of our evolutionary history..Then, when the housemate disagrees with her about her mischaracterisation of them and the other housemates she just vacantly and vapidly grins at them with an almost palpable sense of bubbling resentment and arrogance beneath her composure..She is the sort of therapist one would want to avoid..

Tonight it basically sounded as though she pinned absolutely everything that happened in the house to Freddy on Freddy when in fact some people really are just bullies. They ostracised him from day 1 as he was different and is a soft person. I was just rather irate when she effectively I think bullied him some more by identifying and affiliating herself with the pack mentality of the housemates and ridiculed his social skills. Methinks this is one prejudiced lady.

I really believe the woman is an idiot! Freddy was actually the most discerning person as regards peoples characters as he has some degree of integrity in his personality. Integrity is the cornerstone of discernment. Freddys (general) consistancy only illuminates the selfish motives and vices in others and has done from the very beginning. The only person in which he became lost was the nasty Bea..Honestly, Judy James just slung a few insults at the guy and feigned that the rest of the housemates were just paragons of virtue who couldn't relate to Freddy and his awful social skills when actually 99% of them in their bar Marcus are small minded, self seeking, pack, petty assholes!!

She really does get on me goat. BAD Psychologist

Ditto!

She's clinging on to her job with BB for dear life...probably because her paying clients are drying up...FAST!

[puffpuffpuff]

What is the "Big Kahuna" going to do about it I wonder? Either this is an ironic screen name and the very opposite of you in life or you really do think you are to quote Bea "a big deal" or a big hyper inflated ego more like and I am more inclined to believe the latter tbh..

And I was being facetious but smoking weed as you call it does not have the same addictive properties as tobacco and I believe it to be much safer kind of drug.


Anyway to quote Jennifer Saunders in an episode of friends

'Im bored of you now so I'm going to cut you off"--posh British accent..

[setanta]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
And I didn't actually compare the housemates to Nazis or Freddie to an Archangel.. I was simply making an analogy and applying it on a much larger scale to emphasise how both our feelings and thoughts are vitally important in understanding any situation. For example, were we to use pure logic and not human emotion in assessing Hitlers motives for WW2 we might fall into the sophistry that he wanted a mass genocide, racial cleansing, the execution of all those afflicted with genetic anomolies in favour of a master race and logically speaking this idealism might appeal to the unfeeling mind with an intellectual vision, an almost mathetmatical notion of perfection but when we use our feeling, we see that it is a horrendously evil idealism, destroying others for its ends...

So, I was just stating the case that yes my post is all about my feelings but feelings are important and I drew an analogy with Nazi Germany but it wasn't quite such a one to one correlation with Nazi Germany and the housemates as you wrongfully claim.....

"Manaically laughing in the face of those who are consistent bullies is alright in my books but maybe you have never been hurt and abused and degraded and humiliated in your life by people who have all the power but have no goodness or character and so do not know what it is like when the Hitlers of the world fall and get their comeuppance and you are a success."

That's your original quote..... no need to change the goalposts and twist and manipulate your words to prove a point. Your analogy was not an appeal to us to use both our minds and emotions to form an opinion; it was an emotive and reactionary challenge to any little Hitlers who stand in the way of goodnees and purity. Anyway enough. You seem intent on continuing your speeches and rhetoric and I need a break from it.

[puffpuffpuff]

I am not manipulating at all.. I also alluded to the holocaust which is mostly where my rationale came from. In all honesty I didn't pay attention this here quote BUT yes this was a little hyperbolic but I was just being passionate about justice/injustice whether small or large scale..im sleeping nai

[BBAroudtheGlobe]

I wish they would go back to the old style of doing exit interviews. They were much better. The extra co-host now are so unneccesary and they waste too much time. Time, that could be used to ask the acutal housemates questions.

Also, I liked it when the housemates could here the crowd's responses when their names where called when Davina talked to them. It added anxiety and confusion for them sometimes. I enjoyed watching it better.

[Jords]

Telling Freddie he was rubbish at analysing? Jog on Judy!
Also the fat lump who sat next to her I CANT STAND!

[Marc]

at this thread

[6*Alives]

Originally posted by Nathan
I thought freddie was always spot on with his assesments on the hms, like with the whole sheep thing

then judy horse james goes ''you werent a good judge of character at all, if anyone it was sophie''

i mean wtf, sophie is the biggest sheep there is, she didnt have her own opinions, she never judged anyone, she just said whatever lisa and kris said!

I thought that comment was hilarious! Obviously the production team all now want Sophie to win and to get a "Psychologist" to say she is the best judge of character to gain public agreement is laughable!

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
I seriously distrust her motives believing them to be entirely nefarious..Has she even watched the show? I seriously get the impression they show maybe two/three clips max to her and then she adds her completely futile two cents which is almost always invariably wrong and involves the complete reduction of human beings to mere instruments and prisoners of our evolutionary history..Then, when the housemate disagrees with her about her mischaracterisation of them and the other housemates she just vacantly and vapidly grins at them with an almost palpable sense of bubbling resentment and arrogance beneath her composure..She is the sort of therapist one would want to avoid..

Tonight it basically sounded as though she pinned absolutely everything that happened in the house to Freddy on Freddy when in fact some people really are just bullies. They ostracised him from day 1 as he was different and is a soft person. I was just rather irate when she effectively I think bullied him some more by identifying and affiliating herself with the pack mentality of the housemates and ridiculed his social skills. Methinks this is one prejudiced lady.

I really believe the woman is an idiot! Freddy was actually the most discerning person as regards peoples characters as he has some degree of integrity in his personality. Integrity is the cornerstone of discernment. Freddys (general) consistancy only illuminates the selfish motives and vices in others and has done from the very beginning. The only person in which he became lost was the nasty Bea..Honestly, Judy James just slung a few insults at the guy and feigned that the rest of the housemates were just paragons of virtue who couldn't relate to Freddy and his awful social skills when actually 99% of them in their bar Marcus are small minded, self seeking, pack, petty assholes!!

She really does get on me goat. BAD Psychologist

She was just pointing out some home truths! He IS a terrible amateur psychologist and his communication skills are lacking - noone in their right mind could deny that!!

[Linto99]

OMG That took a while to read all those posts! A wee bitty difference of opinions there, me thinks??? I also watch BB for the watching of human behaviour, I think it's fascinating. I love how when they first go into the house they all think they will get along and there won't be many arguments, as they are all such good friends, and 5 days later their all fighting and bitching.

People going onto BB just lay their souls bare for the viewers watching to see. They can't hide what is their true personalities for it seems longer than 3 weeks. I myself always hope that the winner will be the person who has shown most integrity, honesty, loyaltly and generally the 'All rounder' good guy, who is real in their behaviour and not fake - but I myself (which I'm aware of) tend to be a bit idealistic. We are what we are and we all have different opinions depending on what our beliefs are.

Freddie was generally a really nice person who you would be lucky to have as a friend, his problem was, he was too trusting in his friends (Don't think Marcus intentions where always in Freddie's interest) and his biggest downfall was falling head over heals in love with Bea (or falling for the Bea that she originally portrayed herself to be) Because his emotions got in the way - He just stopped seeing things clearly!

I do think Judy James was wrong in some of her assumptions of Freddie, but correct in others, but don't really rate her as a Psychologist either. The guy is way much better.

But at the end of the day everything on these forums is only ' Our opinion ' and that is what forums are for - expressing your opinions and debating them with other members - But sometimes these debates seem to turn really nasty!

[WOODYLASS]

Originally posted by puffpuffpuff
I seriously distrust her motives believing them to be entirely nefarious..Has she even watched the show? I seriously get the impression they show maybe two/three clips max to her and then she adds her completely futile two cents which is almost always invariably wrong and involves the complete reduction of human beings to mere instruments and prisoners of our evolutionary history..Then, when the housemate disagrees with her about her mischaracterisation of them and the other housemates she just vacantly and vapidly grins at them with an almost palpable sense of bubbling resentment and arrogance beneath her composure..She is the sort of therapist one would want to avoid..

Tonight it basically sounded as though she pinned absolutely everything that happened in the house to Freddy on Freddy when in fact some people really are just bullies. They ostracised him from day 1 as he was different and is a soft person. I was just rather irate when she effectively I think bullied him some more by identifying and affiliating herself with the pack mentality of the housemates and ridiculed his social skills. Methinks this is one prejudiced lady.

I really believe the woman is an idiot! Freddy was actually the most discerning person as regards peoples characters as he has some degree of integrity in his personality. Integrity is the cornerstone of discernment. Freddys (general) consistancy only illuminates the selfish motives and vices in others and has done from the very beginning. The only person in which he became lost was the nasty Bea..Honestly, Judy James just slung a few insults at the guy and feigned that the rest of the housemates were just paragons of virtue who couldn't relate to Freddy and his awful social skills when actually 99% of them in their bar Marcus are small minded, self seeking, pack, petty assholes!!

She really does get on me goat. BAD Psychologist

You're just a sore loser! Face it he's gone, he deserved to go, and everything the psychologist said was spot on. Some of you Freddie fans start slinging insults as soon as somebody expresses an opinion that's different from your own. Very immature!

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by setanta

Of course it is.... it's misguided energy spent on crucifying anyone who spits on the sidewalk. He compares the housemates to Nazis when in fact his kinda ramblings could very well turn into a form of Fascism. Be careful of how much Nietzsche you read. lol

Well said Setanta!