[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I've never liked him since the Noirin thing, it really showed what he's like as a person if he cheats on his girlfriend live on TV for a chance of winning a gameshow. Ever since then he's played the 'woe is me' card as well as trying to be seen as the house Martyr/Messiah.

He's one of the fakest people in there I think.

I don't think he cheated on his g/f because he thought getting with Noirin would win him the show. It was obvious he really fell for her and if anything I think he thought people would dislike him for it

[NettoSuperstar!]

[quote]Originally posted by CrashDavis

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

If he did things diplomatically he would follow the rules with nominations like everybody else does.

He was never friends with Freddie until he survived a few nominations and realised that Freddie was popular on the outside

Being diplomatic with people and following BB rules have no relation. He was always friendly with Freddie from the start, even though Fred was annoying he still stood by him. He has a sense of fairness and didnt like how the others treated him. His behaviour towards Freddie never changed, the others did after he'd stayed in a few weeks, especially charlie

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

He didnt do it for a chance of winning, he quite clearly fell for her. He 20 odd and been with his girlfriend a month or two. Then hes obviousley upset about the whole thing as you would be if you'd just mugged yerself in front of millions. He always expressed guilt. And this week he's fed up with noms.

The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque.

EDIT: I don't think the 'he's only been with his GF a short while' defense works either. He was still in a relationship, if he felt so strongly for Noirin then he would've waited until they were both out so that they can sort it out properly instead of rubbing his girlfriend's face in it on National Television.

Put yourself in her shoes, it wasn't a nice thing to do at all.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Niamhxo

I don't think he cheated on his g/f because he thought getting with Noirin would win him the show. It was obvious he really fell for her and if anything I think he thought people would dislike him for it

[setanta]

[quote]Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Originally posted by CrashDavis

Being diplomatic with people and following BB rules have no relation. He was always friendly with Freddie from the start, even though Fred was annoying he still stood by him. He has a sense of fairness and didnt like how the others treated him. His behaviour towards Freddie never changed, the others did after he'd stayed in a few weeks, especially charlie

Come on Netto, it has. His whole attitude changed the moment Cairon left and it became so obvious that Freddie had public support. He stated at the beginning of the series that he had come in with a gameplan..... had a cocky demeanour which he has been very quick in abandoning since he realised that it wasn't going to win him any fans. Now he's turned into a drip; shuffling around, making sure not to rock the boat at all. Yawnsville.

[CrashDavis]

[quote]Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Originally posted by CrashDavis

Being diplomatic with people and following BB rules have no relation. He was always friendly with Freddie from the start, even though Fred was annoying he still stood by him. He has a sense of fairness and didnt like how the others treated him. His behaviour towards Freddie never changed, the others did after he'd stayed in a few weeks, especially charlie

Not true at all when he was friends with Cairon he never spoke to Freddie, he nominated him in the first week sure.

Can you explain why he cant just nominate like everyone else does?? its part of the gameshow like and its really starting to get on my tits

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Dezzy

The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque.

I think he's just dramatic and was worried about what they might do. Whats wrong with wanting everyone up instead of the usual scapegoats?

[Niamh.]

The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque. [/quote]

I don't think it was a ploy. He seems to stick to what he says and seems honourable to me. If he was that scared of being evicted he wouldn't have swore after Sophie did when they both had to not swear to avoid being put up for eviction by big Brother as a punishment, remember?

[NettoSuperstar!]

[quote]Originally posted by CrashDavis

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Not true at all when he was friends with Cairon he never spoke to Freddie, he nominated him in the first week sure.

Can you explain why he cant just nominate like everyone else does?? its part of the gameshow like and its really starting to get on my tits

Everyone voted Freddie cos he stood out like a sore thumb. He did speak to Freddie but him and Cairon had a lot in common and were closer thats all. Do you have such an issue with Sophie not nominating? I dont care, I'd rather they were all up

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by iluvyuusivash
Why is everyone against Siavash he didnt want to nominate so what and no one is saying anything about sophie not nominating.So what he dont want to go by the rules so what you have never done that even like if you was in school and didnt listen to the teacher.It would be so boring if everyone stuck to the rules and marcus was braking loads of rules the jail is there because of him.

i love you Siavash

Because this year he really could be Jesus come to save us all and he would still get tons of threads hating him.

[setanta]

Originally posted by Dezzy

The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque.

He's not nominating now cuz he thinks the public will admire him for his "decency". Such an obvious tactic to gain support. Where's the decency in basically being responsible for Hira's early exit? Didn't hear him feeling any remorse for that at all and now this week he feels for Bea, a girl that he had heavily criticised last week. Fence sitting gameplayer.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

I think he's just dramatic and was worried about what they might do. Whats wrong with wanting everyone up instead of the usual scapegoats?

He wanted everyone up because he's terrified of facing eviction in a one on one situation since he's not sure he'll stay. I wouldn't care if it was a diplomatic decision made by the house but he's trying to manipulate it to suit him.

[sophie:)]

i think everyones gone off him because he didnt nominate which is a stupid reason because sophie didnt nominate either and no one has gone off her.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Dezzy

He wanted everyone up because he's terrified of facing eviction in a one on one situation since he's not sure he'll stay. I wouldn't care if it was a diplomatic decision made by the house but he's trying to manipulate it to suit him.

You assume thats the case, I think fairplay to him. why should Lisa's gang pick em off, I'd probably want to throw a spanner in the works too

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by sophie
i think everyones gone off him because he didnt nominate which is a stupid reason because sophie didnt nominate either and no one has gone off her.

Yes exactly, I dont see anyone slagging Sophie off for doing the same thing

[CrashDavis]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque.

I don't think it was a ploy. He seems to stick to what he says and seems honourable to me. If he was that scared of being evicted he wouldn't have swore after Sophie did when they both had to not swear to avoid being put up for eviction by big Brother as a punishment, remember? [/quote]

I think he has the same arrogance that Freddie did near the end of his time in BB. He thinks hes untouchable now.

Plus his little standing crying holding the evictees hands as someones about to leave and saying "Siavash" when the nominations are revealed is ridiculously annoying.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by CrashDavis

I don't think it was a ploy. He seems to stick to what he says and seems honourable to me. If he was that scared of being evicted he wouldn't have swore after Sophie did when they both had to not swear to avoid being put up for eviction by big Brother as a punishment, remember?

I think he has the same arrogance that Freddie did near the end of his time in BB. He thinks hes untouchable now.

Plus his little standing crying holding the evictees hands as someones about to leave and saying "Siavash" when the nominations are revealed is ridiculously annoying. [/quote]

How is he arrogant? What evidence are you going on there? You say annoying- I say endearing

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by Dezzy


The noms thing was a complete ploy, he made a big song and dance about it coming out of the diary room, he was like' Oh my God, Oh My god somthing's happening but I can't tell you' He wanted to be the center of attention and wanted to highlight the fact he wasn't nominating.

If I was BB I'd have put him up or booted him out, He'd change his tune then. He's only doing it in hope that the whole house goes up so there's more chance of him staying. I did really used to like him but his games have become terribly opaque.

EDIT: I don't think the 'he's only been with his GF a short while' defense works either. He was still in a relationship, if he felt so strongly for Noirin then he would've waited until they were both out so that they can sort it out properly instead of rubbing his girlfriend's face in it on National Television.

Put yourself in her shoes, it wasn't a nice thing to do at all.

Did you mean transparent? Opaque is the opposite!

[Niamh.]

I don't think it was a ploy. He seems to stick to what he says and seems honourable to me. If he was that scared of being evicted he wouldn't have swore after Sophie did when they both had to not swear to avoid being put up for eviction by big Brother as a punishment, remember? [/quote]

I think he has the same arrogance that Freddie did near the end of his time in BB. He thinks hes untouchable now.

Plus his little standing crying holding the evictees hands as someones about to leave and saying "Siavash" when the nominations are revealed is ridiculously annoying. [/quote]

Well, that happened a good few weeks ago so you can't say that he has arrogance now. I really don't think that he's refusing to nominate because it's some strange plan to stay in, I think he just thinks it's the right thing for him to do and TBH the results would probably have been the same had he nominated anyway

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by sophie
i think everyones gone off him because he didnt nominate which is a stupid reason because sophie didnt nominate either and no one has gone off her.

Their reasons were different though. Sophie didn't nominate because she didn't have to as the 'punishment' this week wasn't severe. If they'd have threatened her with something serious she would have nominated, plus she just got on with it and didn't make a song and dance about it. She wasn't doing it for the kudos.

[CrashDavis]

[quote]Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Originally posted by CrashDavis

Everyone voted Freddie cos he stood out like a sore thumb. He did speak to Freddie but him and Cairon had a lot in common and were closer thats all. Do you have such an issue with Sophie not nominating? I dont care, I'd rather they were all up

Im not really bothered with Sophie she did it this week for the first time after Siavash did, she's easily led thats all.

If he was really friends with him he would have stood up for Freddie like Freddie did for him during Bunnygate.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run

Did you mean transparent? Opaque is the opposite!

I know what opaque is, I meant it in a way that his gameplan is completely visible and in sight like an opaque object. I've been describing him as transparent for ages so I though i'd mix it up a little.

[sophiee1383]

I Love Siavash

[NettoSuperstar!]

He did stand up for Freddie

[CrashDavis]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

I think he has the same arrogance that Freddie did near the end of his time in BB. He thinks hes untouchable now.

Plus his little standing crying holding the evictees hands as someones about to leave and saying "Siavash" when the nominations are revealed is ridiculously annoying.

How is he arrogant? What evidence are you going on there? You say annoying- I say endearing [/quote]

By continually putting himself up as he must be quite sure that the public will keep him safe.

Dunno how you can consider that endearing.