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Old 06-09-2009, 02:32 PM #51
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Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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I like to think of it as the information source for the Bible holidays. God told his people to set apart special days including Sabbath.
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I was bought up with stone age religion, not really strict but really stone age. Im not religious but always when i think of hell i say 'im going to change tommorow thats it no more this no more that' then i wake up the next day and back to the usaull But i have deeeeeeeeeeep faith in god!
 
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[rquote=2548781&tid=143385&author=bansheewails]Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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'what organised religion is this'?
 
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Btw i dont belive gods a man or a woman i belive it's just a supernatural person
 
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[rquote=2548781&tid=143385&author=bansheewails]Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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cliche after tired google generation cliche
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[rquote=2573833&tid=143385&author=Mark][/rquote]So true, but the mother would flip into rage and strike back..
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Well the simple monothiesm debunk is who designed the designer. But you don't even have to go that far seen as religion is riddled with contradiction anyway.
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[rquote=2573759&tid=143385&author=IsleOfWeather][rquote=2548781&tid=143385&author=bansheewails]Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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cliche after tired google generation cliche[/rquote]

Cliched how? Its fact, even my religion teacher taught us this information! Google Generation, I dont think so! Educated generation yes!
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[rquote=2554919&tid=143385&author=atieah2009][rquote=2548781&tid=143385&author=bansheewails]Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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'what organised religion is this'?[/rquote]

Catholic, then Protestant whic threw out the bits it didn't like about the catholic religions, even parts of Judaism is based on orginal pagan beliefs.
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It seems Religion is on the rise amoungst teens though. Places like ALC that try make church fun and cool. Not good really, the last thing we need is a generation of fundies.
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Christianity is based on Jesus and nowt else.
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[rquote=2585576&tid=143385&author=bansheewails][rquote=2573759&tid=143385&author=IsleOfWeather][rquote=2548781&tid=143385&author=bansheewails]Early religions had multiple gods and godesses, christiany took the best bits of them and rolled it into one 'god', they even use the same dates as pagans for feast days and holidays, so it was easier to covert the masses.

Women in early religions had equal footing with men and this was taken away by the new christian religion and women today are still trying to claw their way back up there.

Have faith, all the faith you want. Believe what you want, it is proven to be good for you to have faith in anything, just don't blindly follow that faith in organised religion, without questioning it.

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cliche after tired google generation cliche[/rquote]

Cliched how? Its fact, even my religion teacher taught us this information! Google Generation, I dont think so! Educated generation yes![/rquote]

This is what I think also Banshee. Google generation cliches??? What does that even mean??? Because people aren't blindly believing what priests etc are telling us anymore??? If there is a God and he/she's as loving and forgiving as most religions tell us, wouldn't he just want us to be generally good people and think for ourselves with the free thought the he/she has given us??
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I dont believe in god, life after death, fate, or any of that cr*p to be honest. When you die, thats it, you get eaten by worms or blow around the world in tiny pieces forever more...I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, but fate, is nothing but a nice story. Same as the bible, I believe that it was written as a story book, it got into some deluded persons hands, and they took it for real. Jesus was one hell of an author, but not the son of god.
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[rquote=2586685&tid=143385&author=VickyJ]I dont believe in god, life after death, fate, or any of that cr*p to be honest. When you die, thats it, you get eaten by worms or blow around the world in tiny pieces forever more...I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, but fate, is nothing but a nice story. Same as the bible, I believe that it was written as a story book, it got into some deluded persons hands, and they took it for real. Jesus was one hell of an author, but not the son of god.[/rquote]

Yeh I believe that the words of Jesus and the like were misinterpreted by idiots. Jesus didnt write the bible or proclaim to be the son of god, all that s**** was decided afterwards and influenced by the powerful and corrupted no doubt!
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I honestly do think that religion is just a ploy to control gullible people, tell them how to live and such. And take their money...I went to church when I was younger and if I didnt put 50p in the collection, the sunday school teachers were awful with me...seems money plays a BIG part in religion nowadays...I dont know if it has always been like that though.
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[rquote=2586695&tid=143385&author=VickyJ]I honestly do think that religion is just a ploy to control gullible people, tell them how to live and such. And take their money...I went to church when I was younger and if I didnt put 50p in the collection, the sunday school teachers were awful with me...seems money plays a BIG part in religion nowadays...I dont know if it has always been like that though.[/rquote]

It's good that it does not have as much influence as it used to. Although fundamentalism in Christiany seems to be growing.
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They spend a lot on charitable causes to be fair but yeh. There are loads of cults out there in it for the money and the power. I believe Jesus was a good bloke just trying to spread the love like tho. He'd be appalled at half the **** done in his name Im sure
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[rquote=2586692&tid=143385&author=NettoSuperstar!][rquote=2586685&tid=143385&author=VickyJ]I dont believe in god, life after death, fate, or any of that cr*p to be honest. When you die, thats it, you get eaten by worms or blow around the world in tiny pieces forever more...I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, but fate, is nothing but a nice story. Same as the bible, I believe that it was written as a story book, it got into some deluded persons hands, and they took it for real. Jesus was one hell of an author, but not the son of god.[/rquote]

Yeh I believe that the words of Jesus and the like were misinterpreted by idiots. Jesus didnt write the bible or proclaim to be the son of god, all that s**** was decided afterwards and influenced by the powerful and corrupted no doubt! [/rquote]

An interesting fact as well is that Catholic priests were allowed to marry up until the 1st centuary but then they changed it because they didn't want wives inheriting the churches money/property
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[rquote=2586704&tid=143385&author=NettoSuperstar!]They spend a lot on charitable causes to be fair but yeh. There are loads of cults out there in it for the money and the power. I believe Jesus was a good bloke just trying to spread the love like tho. He'd be appalled at half the s*** done in his name Im sure[/rquote]

Why make a child feel s*** because they dont have 50p left of their pocket money to put in the collection though? Or because their parents forgot to give them collection money that day? Church is an awful place, people who choose to go their and be told how to live their lives, and give away their hard earned money need their heads seeing to I think. If these churches are giving it to charity, why not just encourage people to give it to charity...instead of (sort of)bullying them into giving it to them...

And yeah, Jesus will be turning in his grave/tomb/whatever over what his tales have done to the world.
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[rquote=2586705&tid=143385&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2586692&tid=143385&author=NettoSuperstar!][rquote=2586685&tid=143385&author=VickyJ]I dont believe in god, life after death, fate, or any of that cr*p to be honest. When you die, thats it, you get eaten by worms or blow around the world in tiny pieces forever more...I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, but fate, is nothing but a nice story. Same as the bible, I believe that it was written as a story book, it got into some deluded persons hands, and they took it for real. Jesus was one hell of an author, but not the son of god.[/rquote]

Yeh I believe that the words of Jesus and the like were misinterpreted by idiots. Jesus didnt write the bible or proclaim to be the son of god, all that s**** was decided afterwards and influenced by the powerful and corrupted no doubt! [/rquote]

An interesting fact as well is that Catholic priests were allowed to marry up until the 1st centuary but then they changed it because they didn't want wives inheriting the churches money/property[/rquote]

Now they say Priests are married to God, but that would make both God and Priests gay?! And the church is against gays ...
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Ive only really been in a church a handful of times...its mind bendingly boring
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[rquote=2586709&tid=143385&author=VickyJ][rquote=2586704&tid=143385&author=NettoSuperstar!]They spend a lot on charitable causes to be fair but yeh. There are loads of cults out there in it for the money and the power. I believe Jesus was a good bloke just trying to spread the love like tho. He'd be appalled at half the s*** done in his name Im sure[/rquote]

Why make a child feel s*** because they dont have 50p left of their pocket money to put in the collection though? Or because their parents forgot to give them collection money that day? Church is an awful place, people who choose to go their and be told how to live their lives, and give away their hard earned money need their heads seeing to I think. If these churches are giving it to charity, why not just encourage people to give it to charity...instead of (sort of)bullying them into giving it to them...

And yeah, Jesus will be turning in his grave/tomb/whatever over what his tales have done to the world.[/rquote] You are right. Seek God for yourself and not through any religion.
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[rquote=2586723&tid=143385&author=Tom][rquote=2586705&tid=143385&author=Niamhxo][rquote=2586692&tid=143385&author=NettoSuperstar!][rquote=2586685&tid=143385&author=VickyJ]I dont believe in god, life after death, fate, or any of that cr*p to be honest. When you die, thats it, you get eaten by worms or blow around the world in tiny pieces forever more...I believe in the big bang theory, and evolution, but fate, is nothing but a nice story. Same as the bible, I believe that it was written as a story book, it got into some deluded persons hands, and they took it for real. Jesus was one hell of an author, but not the son of god.[/rquote]

Yeh I believe that the words of Jesus and the like were misinterpreted by idiots. Jesus didnt write the bible or proclaim to be the son of god, all that s**** was decided afterwards and influenced by the powerful and corrupted no doubt! [/rquote]

An interesting fact as well is that Catholic priests were allowed to marry up until the 1st centuary but then they changed it because they didn't want wives inheriting the churches money/property[/rquote]

Now they say Priests are married to God, but that would make both God and Priests gay?! And the church is against gays ...[/rquote]

Err god may be male in christiany but its not he or she a superhuman to muslims, and i donate %25 of money to charity and not to religion, miss vicky j every religion needs a bit of money its unfortunate you ran into a nasty teacher. You do know priests and scholars are human and have children and need money to live and arent benifit fools! Loving god and religion for life!
 
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