[lily.]

I think extremists are utter *****s.

I feel sorry muslims who aren't extremist, because they can't really win in this type of situation. If they speak out against the extremist, they may be persecuted for not conforming... if they support the extremist... the non-muslims hate them..

It's a lose/lose situation for them..

[30stone]

Lead them out and.. and... BOOM.

[spitfire]

Do you know what have you done, with your twisted dreams?

How you ignore people’s heartache, ignored their screams

Did you feel any remorse as the planes hit the towers?

Or did you get endless pleasure, during America’s darkest hours

You sent the innocents to their death without even a thought

You’re crazy Koran; your book, it’s what you thought you were taught

Did you join in the planning, the slaughter on seven/seven

Did you hold street parties during Ramadan to celebrate nine/eleven?

You took advantage of tolerance, you under estimated the resolve of the west

You learnt the infidel the word HATE, and just how to detest

You created bitterness and contempt disturbed the sleeping beast

Gave us a new vocabulary on which we the infidel learnt to feast

Extremist, Traitor, Allah Akbar, words seldom used in our land

But then you taunted our brave soldiers, and now you have forced our hand

The time has come to draw the sword, now our eyes are opened wide

We cannot, will not lose this war, you see we have England on our side

We will try to protest peacefully, we do not want disorder for our street

The infidel is no longer friendly; Extremism and terrorism will be beat

Oh don’t doubt our hatred for you; we won’t rest till you left these shores

A message for labour and Gordon Brown, we aren’t taking this any more

Between you, you destroyed our country, our people afraid to have their say

As soon as they have an opinion, well the race card comes out to play

Our freedom of speech lies in the gutter; our people have their heads in the sand

A message for UAF, labour and Choudray, we are going to take back England

To EDL when things are tough, please keep this message in mind

You are fighting for our England back, for every man, woman and child.

[30stone]

Spitfire come along and boom!

[lily.]

Religion is the root of all evil. Fact.

[Stu]

Nah, plenty of peaceful Muslims exist.

[InOne]

Didn't deny they did.

[JOSHUAH!]

This Mr.Choudry who is running the march, and runs ISLAM4UK, has said this march is to 'remember the innocent men, women and children who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan'

In fairness, I agree - it's TERRIBLE that these innocent civilians die - but the United Nations have statistics which show that most Muslim civilians in Afghanistan have died from other Muslims, usually in suicide bombs, and the like. Mr.Choudry continues to blame our soldiers for their deaths and its simply not true - the majority of our soldiers go over there to protect people, and to save them. Most moderate Muslims in the country even like the soldiers.

So really, a march should go ahead. But NOT in Wooten Basset - it is TOTALLY wrong, and shows no compassion. As a religious man Mr.Choudry should remember that soldiers, civilians, whatever - they are LIVES. People dying is a horrible thing, and these soldiers have been ordered to go to Afghanistan by our government, it is not their fault. Mr.Choudry should change the location, because to be honest, the whole idea for the march was to 'remember the innocent civilian lives lost' WELL, I'm sorry, but the media, and not many of the public actually know that - we are just outraged you've chosen Wooten Basset. So really, his idea hasn't got through, or made us think about the civilians at all.

On Sky News they interviewed a Muslim lady from the 'Muslim Council of Britain' She said he was a 'mad man' - I think that speaks volumes. A Muslim calling Mr.Choudry a mad man, and that he is. I'm glad she spoke out, because at least we now know that not all Muslims think and behave like him.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by JOSHUAH!

This Mr.Choudry who is running the march, and runs ISLAM4UK, has said this march is to 'remember the innocent men, women and children who have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan'

In fairness, I agree - it's TERRIBLE that these innocent civilians die - but the United Nations have statistics which show that most Muslim civilians in Afghanistan have died from other Muslims, usually in suicide bombs, and the like. Mr.Choudry continues to blame our soldiers for their deaths and its simply not true - the majority of our soldiers go over there to protect people, and to save them. Most moderate Muslims in the country even like the soldiers.

So really, a march should go ahead. But NOT in Wooten Basset - it is TOTALLY wrong, and shows no compassion. As a religious man Mr.Choudry should remember that soldiers, civilians, whatever - they are LIVES. People dying is a horrible thing, and these soldiers have been ordered to go to Afghanistan by our government, it is not their fault. Mr.Choudry should change the location, because to be honest, the whole idea for the march was to 'remember the innocent civilian lives lost' WELL, I'm sorry, but the media, and not many of the public actually know that - we are just outraged you've chosen Wooten Basset. So really, his idea hasn't got through, or made us think about the civilians at all.

On Sky News they interviewed a Muslim lady from the 'Muslim Council of Britain' She said he was a 'mad man' - I think that speaks volumes. A Muslim calling Mr.Choudry a mad man, and that he is. I'm glad she spoke out, because at least we now know that not all Muslims think and behave like him.

Well said!

[arista]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-benefits.html


What is worse is the UK Public Fund his Extreme gigs.

[Stu]

Sure you didin't say 'all' but you were saying 'they were cheering on the streets after 9/11' in response to Netto saying that Muslims actually do speak about against extremists. So no, I'm really not making something out of nothing.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stu

Sure you didin't say 'all' but you were saying 'they were cheering on the streets after 9/11' in response to Netto saying that Muslims actually do speak about against extremists. So no, I'm really not making something out of nothing.

Netto does not really have much proof of that, just her in her little Multicultural bubble, and I know that everytime you hear about these thing they always divert to 'This is not the real Islam' 'These people are not Muslims', they should go out and tell the people who do, they should make more of an effort to get to the youth.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Netto does not really have much proof of that, just her in her little Multicultural bubble, and I know that everytime you hear about these thing they always divert to 'This is not the real Islam' 'These people are not Muslims', they should go out and tell the people who do, they should make more of an effort to get to the youth.

Riiight...Im in a bubble...who knows the most muslims? Who bothers to try and get and understand ordinary muslim opinion? pleeease...so you admit you think "they" all think the same way

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Riiight...Im in a bubble...who knows the most muslims? Who bothers to try and get and understand ordinary muslim opinion? pleeease...so you admit you think "they" all think the same way

How do you know you know more than me? And yes you are in your own little bubble, with Wildcat, that likes to scream Racism

[Stu]

Originally Posted by InOne

Netto does not really have much proof of that, just her in her little Multicultural bubble, and I know that everytime you hear about these thing they always divert to 'This is not the real Islam' 'These people are not Muslims', they should go out and tell the people who do, they should make more of an effort to get to the youth.

You don't need proof to say that not all Muslims support extremists. Just a pinch of common sense.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Stu

You don't need proof to say that not all Muslims support extremists. Just a pinch of common sense.

They but they don't do much about it either, that is what I was saying.

[NettoSuperstar!]

exactly

[NettoSuperstar!]

http://www.reconciliationtalk.com/20...ett-plans.html

http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

http://www.racematters.org/speakagai...micintoler.htm

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/news/artic...-army-families

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

http://www.reconciliationtalk.com/20...ett-plans.html

http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

http://www.racematters.org/speakagai...micintoler.htm

http://www.hmforces.co.uk/news/artic...-army-families

You give me all these links yet nothing ever changes, they always say that kind of stuff.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

You give me all these links yet nothing ever changes, they always say that kind of stuff.

What they going to do go round to the extremists houses and kill them? You said they dont speak out against them they do!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

What they going to do go round to the extremists houses and kill them? You said they dont speak out against them they do!

Not in public though, why don't they get big ralleys againt it like that did for some silly drawings?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not in public though, why don't they get big ralleys againt it like that did for some silly drawings?

Because most people muslims and non muslims alike see them for what they are a minority of wackos and they dont get their knickers in a twist thinking they have any power or influence over jack all! "they" there you go again!

The light just wont go on...Roger OVER and OUT

the article you put up speaks some sense and has some balance unlike your good self

There are religious idiots all over the world, in fact there are idiots all over the world but most people of all cultures, religious denominations and groups have got some sense and reason and just want to live in peace! FACT

http://wallscometumblingdown.wordpre...aptist-church/

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

What they going to do go round to the extremists houses and kill them? You said they dont speak out against them they do!

Not loud enough! If they really mean it - they would shout louder!

[spitfire]

Maybe the non extreme Muslims should come out against this parade. Too often they complain about being misrepresented by the extremists. Now is the time for decent Muslims to stand against such a vile act. Sometimes silence says an awful lot more.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by spitfire

Maybe the non extreme Muslims should come out against this parade. Too often they complain about being misrepresented by the extremists. Now is the time for decent Muslims to stand against such a vile act. Sometimes silence says an awful lot more.

They prefer to tell us how many are not doing and how many are actually moderate, like that matters? The ones who are doing are doing a hell of a lot of damage.