[Nemo123]

The invasion of Iraq was a long time in the pipeline, (pun intended). The US told its allies before 9/11 of their plans. The Taleban were frustrating the US's plans to build a pipeline to connect oil to Asia. The War on Terror is a lie:

Regarding the placement of the Unocal Pipeline, a US Official delivered this ultimatum to the Taliban (via the Pakistani delegation acting as their interlocutors): "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs." (Ref: Jean-Charles Brisard and Guillaume Dasquie in "Forbidden Truth" (31) (Book's Preface online-pdf format (32) )

[informer]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

The invasion of Iraq was a long time in the pipeline, (pun intended). The US told its allies before 9/11 of their plans. The Taleban were frustrating the US's plans to build a pipeline to connect oil to Asia. The War on Terror is a lie:

exactly...and why are our boys coming back in coffins for this filthy blood soaked oil grab?

[Stu]

Do people still believe in the concept of a war of terror? Good grief. Wake up, you are being brainwashed. The 'war on terror' is a non stop scare scenario designed to get you to give up your rights one at a time. How exactly could a war on terror actually exist? Did we just let terrorists run amok before the war of terror? When the war of terror ends, are they going to all walk free and continue to blow **** up because the war on them is over?

That said, not all soldiers agree with the flow, like Henessy said.

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Do people still believe in the concept of a war of terror? Good grief. Wake up, you are being brainwashed. The 'war on terror' is a non stop scare scenario designed to get you to give up your rights one at a time. How exactly could a war on terror actually exist? Did we just let terrorists run amok before the war of terror? When the war of terror ends, are they going to all walk free and continue to blow **** up because the war on them is over?

That said, not all soldiers agree with the flow, like Henessy said.

i agree it like we are giving up are rights to privacy more and more especially with all them cctv cameras

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Its so simple thats why ure doing the job running the country ! lol

instead ure a loser behind a pc screen in a BB forum talking rubbish,probably dont even have a job.

there are people here who have family out there fighting for ure freedom so u can sit on ure ass an watch BB and sit in here on a BB forum.

Fighting for our 'freedom'? Since when were our 'freedoms' under threat? Is an Islamist extremist militia going to bust in tonight and stop me from watching Big Brother?

Do you realise that more freedoms have actually been restricted [check it, it's a fact] in the western world than created or preserved since the 'war on terror' began? And you call others loosers?

[Nemo123]

John Major made a momentous statement on NI when he said Britain had no strategic interest there. Problem solved. The reason there is a war on terror in Afghanistan is because the US has very definite strategic aims and interests there - oil!

[Athleticguy29uk]

Terrorism has always occured and always will do wether we pull out or not!

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Terrorism has always occured and always will do wether we pull out or not!

but to be fair invading them is only going to help their cause in the eyes of afghanis and iraqis who have seen their country invaded

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Terrorism has always occured and always will do wether we pull out or not!

Nonsense!

It's not a war on terror, that's a by-product, a symptom - not the cause.

[Nemo123]

Here's a rough bg t the war.

US oil comp wants to build pipeline across.
Taliban won't play ball.
Clinto lanches Cruise missiles on Afghanistan, USS Cole is attacked.
Tensions bubble on.
GW decides to invade Afghanistan before 9/11

[informer]

Invading a country, stealing their natural resources and killing their civilains only INCREASES terrorism!!

[zelda]

Originally Posted by informer

Invading a country, stealing their natural resources and killing their civilains only INCREASES terrorism!!

i agree i have just said the same

[Athleticguy29uk]

Terrorism has fallen since the war in Iraq/afghanistan if u look at the figures!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Terrorism has fallen since the war in Iraq/afghanistan if u look at the figures!

No it hasn't. You have absoloutely no idea what you are talking about.

A simple Google search :

http://www.comw.org/pda/0609bm38.html

[informer]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Terrorism has fallen since the war in Iraq/afghanistan if u look at the figures!

What figures...im interested how they collected those figures

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Athleticguy29uk

Terrorism has fallen since the war in Iraq/afghanistan if u look at the figures!

maybe but the people of them countrys are going to resent us for the next twenty years which will continue the terrorism in the long run

[informer]

Originally Posted by zelda

maybe but the people of them countrys are going to resent us for the next twenty years which will continue the terrorism in the long run

the whole terrorism thing is utter bollocks designed to keep people talking while the dirty deeds of killing and stealing oil is completed

[Stu]

Originally Posted by zelda

maybe but the people of them countrys are going to resent us for the next twenty years which will continue the terrorism in the long run

Exactly. Continued occupation from richer foreign forces. Of course the ten year olds on the streets of Afghanistan are going to grow up learning to shoot AK-47's in open American shopping malls FFS.

[zelda]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Exactly. Continued occupation from richer foreign forces. Of course the ten year olds on the streets of Afghanistan are going to grow up learning to shoot AK-47's in open American shopping malls FFS.

also how is the middle east meant to progress if we keep attacking them they will just remain poor and weaker tecnology wise which sometimes i wonder if thats what america wants

[informer]

Originally Posted by zelda

also how is the middle east meant to progress if we keep attacking them they will just remain poor and weaker tecnology wise which sometimes i wonder if thats what america wants

you sound young but you seem intelligent and clued up on whats going on in the world as opposed to the 'personal trainer' above who donates to wildlife and animal charities...

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by zelda

also how is the middle east meant to progress if we keep attacking them they will just remain poor and weaker tecnology wise which sometimes i wonder if thats what america wants

It's called Divide and Conquer, and they've been doing it for years, in Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Afghanistan, etc.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by zelda

also how is the middle east meant to progress if we keep attacking them they will just remain poor and weaker tecnology wise which sometimes i wonder if thats what america wants

And then they want to take those countries most valueable natural resource! On top of that, America used to sell many of these countries their weapons. During the Gulf War the Americans were basically going to war with their old equipment!

You can be sure whoever America is selling arms to these days will be getting the **** bombed out of them in a few years.

[Athleticguy29uk]

spend alot of time here do ya? lol

[Nemo123]

Hasn't Vinnie's son just joined up? So he's no excuse for not knowing what he's getting himself into. Sheds a lot of light on what kind of father he must have and what attitudes prevail in their household.

[informer]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Hasn't Vinnie's son just joined up? So he's no excuse for not knowing what he's getting himself into. Sheds a lot of light on what kind of father he must have and what attitudes prevail in their household.

sounds about right..like father like son..violence and hate is in their blood