[ButterflyGirl]

Originally Posted by Enid

I'm guessing that was directed at me? If it was, say so.

Nobody was getting picked on. She's a big girl, I'm sure she could have stood up for herself if she tried.

I really don't understand why people say it's out of order for a man to pick a VERBAL fight with a woman. Women aren't timid, frail little creatures you need to tip toe around. It pisses me off, royally.

I wasn't directing anything at you at all , I only read the first post, I meant JJ anyway.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by ButterflyGirl

I wasn't directing anything at you at all , I only read the first post, I meant JJ anyway.

Enid was getting tired by then BG - I think everyone else read your post as relating to the opening post.

[Abluebird]

Originally Posted by skkc16

Tbh I don't even but his insecure bs .....yes you don't get over these things but when was high school for JJ probably 5/6 yrs ago he well should be over it by now

I think it is a dificult one with JJ attitude, his insecurities was brought to attention by shabby to Josie, then Josie asked him direct ( well stating she sussed him out a bit) and he agreed, so its not like JJ gave a sob story.

If your time at school is unhappy for what ever reason, it doesnt really matter how many years ago it was, the unhappness is instilled, and would affect confidence in different ways. IMO JJ is not a bad looking guy, but it does not mean that he thinks this of himself.

I give this senario, JJ in his school time had crushes, and got the ''URGH'' looks from girls, and since he looks out for those sort of signs, it may seem silly, and it may have been harsh on Racheal. going from Racheals VT she did think of herself as a beauti, she didnt have much time for many in the house either, however but it was unfort they way Racheal left as she was not nominated properly..

Time will tell with JJ, his haters will either change their minds, or the likes of me who like him may be proved wrong.

[Alpertinator]

Haha so what you expected Rachael to come in dressed as an Australian school girl? Haha what come on. My point is - the clothes has nothing to do with it moron.

[tuesday1962]

I can’t understand why people insist on defending JJ. At the end of the day he made a judgment call imo which was wrong. Rachael told Ife and Govan that she had been bullied when she was younger and has had confidence issues.

Rachael was booed all the way into the house. A couple of days into the house Rachael had imo she has lost a lot of her confidence even she admitted she felt she had no role in the house. The only person who thought that she was looking down on the other housemates was JJ, the rest of the housemates didn’t feel intimidated by the way she was looking at them. If anything they could see what JJ was getting at.

My issue with JJ is that he actively decided he didn’t want to try to get to know her, he made a concerted effort to go out of his way to make her uncomfortable in the house. By the time he decided he wanted to know the reason she had decided she had had enough. May be if she had survived the eviction then the situation might have resolved itself but we will never know now.

I hope that if JJ comes out he is shown what he was like towards Rachael and I hope it is bloody uncomfortable for him. JJ acted out of malice because he thought she was a ‘mean girl’. Never once did he consider that BB would but a female version of himself. The difference between them both is that Rachael was mature in her attitude and JJ has yet to make that leap. JJ imo should grow and try and get to know someone first before categorising and judging them, especially from a VT tape that is designed to the best chance of getting in to the BB house.

[fuzzylovin]

Hes not insecure because i remember reading that he said if he wanted rachael he could have her in a second.
And i think the bully stuff is a load of crock trying to excuse what he did to rachel and play the feel sorry for me stunt.