[vesavius]

Originally Posted by =Dan=

I agree, From what i have seen i would of thought he is joking around to be honest :P

Some people on this forum need to relax a bit haha

says a Dave fan... I wonder why?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by =Dan=

I agree, From what i have seen i would of thought he is joking around to be honest :P

Some people on this forum need to relax a bit haha

Take the rose tinted specs off.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by Jords

Hardly a nasty streak, just a bit heavy-handed.

Heavy-handed is when you do it once not over and over again.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Julie10

Heavy-handed is when you do it once not over and over again.

No, some people are naturally heavy-handed, she should ask him to be more careful than bitch about it. Josie herself knows Dave wouldnt mean to hurt her, and I think its silly to suggest he would.

[Julie10]

Originally Posted by Jords

No, some people are naturally heavy-handed, she should ask him to be more careful than bitch about it. Josie herself knows Dave wouldnt mean to hurt her, and I think its silly to suggest he would.

What about the incident with his friend Ben. Throwing Caoimhe on top of Ben was that heavy-handed? do you think he was meant to throw her on the floor or on top of his mate Ben risking injury to both of them? At forty he should know that that is very dangerous.

Caoihme could have been injured or injured Ben. Couldn't careless I think. Has a nasty streak I think.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Julie10

What about the incident with his friend Ben. Throwing Caoimhe on top of Ben was that heavy-handed? do you think he was meant to throw her on the floor or on top of his mate Ben risking injury to both of them? At forty he should know that that is very dangerous.

Caoihme could have been injured or injured Ben. Couldn't careless I think. Has a nasty streak I think.

Also knowing full well that Ben was very annoyed with people keeping him awake.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Julie10

What about the incident with his friend Ben. Throwing Caoimhe on top of Ben was that heavy-handed? do you think he was meant to throw her on the floor or on top of his mate Ben risking injury to both of them? At forty he should know that that is very dangerous.

Caoihme could have been injured or injured Ben. Couldn't careless I think. Has a nasty streak I think.

So he threw Caoimhe into Ben to cause them harm? You really think that?
I would say he was probably a bit careless actually, not really thinking that it may hurt them but doing it for the fun, Im sure if he was told that he went a bit too far he'd sort it out, but instead they refer to bitching about it (well Josie, Caoimhe and Ben didnt complain tbh).

[Jords]

Oh no not mask slipping again.

[Alpertinator]

It's not just the physical stuff he's done, I also notice he can sometimes be a bit heavy with the ball breakin' and such. He seems to enjoy takin' the piss out of people and he'll really laugh about it whilst they're clearly not appreciating his behaviour.

Really how many ministers/fathers/priests have long hair with dye, tatoos and are rock music fans, whilst also having the kind of personality that Dave has? A real priest is incredibly nice and homely and welcoming and warm but Dave is more like the local butcher or the guy who works at the local pub.

[Abhorsen]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

It's not just the physical stuff he's done, I also notice he can sometimes be a bit heavy with the ball breakin' and such. He seems to enjoy takin' the piss out of people and he'll really laugh about it whilst they're clearly not appreciating his behaviour.

Really how many ministers/fathers/priests have long hair with dye, tatoos and are rock music fans, whilst also having the kind of personality that Dave has? A real priest is incredibly nice and homely and welcoming and warm but Dave is more like the local butcher or the guy who works at the local pub.

Actually Dave IS the bloke from the local pub, he was a pest controller and a postman, they sacked him.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

It's not just the physical stuff he's done, I also notice he can sometimes be a bit heavy with the ball breakin' and such. He seems to enjoy takin' the piss out of people and he'll really laugh about it whilst they're clearly not appreciating his behaviour.

Really how many ministers/fathers/priests have long hair with dye, tatoos and are rock music fans, whilst also having the kind of personality that Dave has? A real priest is incredibly nice and homely and welcoming and warm but Dave is more like the local butcher or the guy who works at the local pub.

Exactly, he also joins in with the bitching a lot. And is quick to turn on people and put them down. He claims to be open minded, but don't think that at all.

[Jords]

Me thinks this is just an opportunity for Dave-haters to help convince theirself hes a bad guy.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Jords

Me thinks this is just an opportunity for Dave-haters to help convince theirself hes a bad guy.

Not really, nobody is hating, we're just telling it how it is.

[Abhorsen]

Originally Posted by InOne

Not really, nobody is hating, we're just telling it how it is.

Exactly.

But didn't you know InOne, you're not allowed to criticize CERTAIN HMs without being called a 'hater'. LOL.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

Exactly.

But didn't you know InOne, you're not allowed to criticize CERTAIN HMs without being called a 'hater'. LOL.

Well if you think he has this nasty streak in him you wouldnt like him would you?
Hes just a bit rough at times which is being over exaggerated to make it look far worse.

[vesavius]

I am happy to let this go for the time, he obviously is not gonna be pulled up on it.

Debating whether he has intention to hurt, or indeed if he can control his ability to judge what hurts another HM or not when he has worked himself into an hysterical 'drunk' state, isnt gonna get us anywhere.

Give him enough rope and he will do it again.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Jords

Me thinks this is just an opportunity for Dave-haters to help convince theirself hes a bad guy.

This!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

This!

No, we've said our reasons.

[fingers]

"There are none so blind as those who WILL not see" LOL!

[Jords]

I thought Josie knew it was fun and games, but thought Dave went a little too far, a bit like when John James dragged Sunshine along the carpet and gave her burns. He wasnt really pulled up for it by the public, so why is Dave being?

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Jords

I thought Josie knew it was fun and games, but thought Dave went a little too far, a bit like when John James dragged Sunshine along the carpet and gave her burns. He wasnt really pulled up for it by the public, so why is Dave being?

Because SS got such a bad edit in the HL show.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jords

I thought Josie knew it was fun and games, but thought Dave went a little too far, a bit like when John James dragged Sunshine along the carpet and gave her burns. He wasnt really pulled up for it by the public, so why is Dave being?

Actually Jords, JJ was, and although I am not saying you were part of that I do remember you in the threads where he was so I am surpised you don't remember it.

The actual question is why is Dave beyond being held up for it?

[Jords]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Actually Jords, JJ was, and although I am not saying you were part of that I do remember you in the threads where he was so I am surpised you don't remember it.

The actual question is why is Dave beyond being held up for it?

Not really, most people seemed to be happy to put JJ in the right without any consideration, and were outraged that he was warned about his actions.

Its funny, I think you said Sunshine played the victiom card and JJ was fine, YET in this situation your pointing your finger at Dave being nasty, LOL double standards.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Jords

Not really, most people seemed to be happy to put JJ in the right without any consideration, and were outraged that he was warned about his actions.

No, there was two sides in that debate, and you are only choosing to remember the one.

The other side clearly made out that Shuny had been assaulted and JJ should be made to leave, even though it was a one off accident.

Originally Posted by Jords

Its funny, I think you said Sunshine played the victiom card and JJ was fine, YET in this situation your pointing your finger at Dave being nasty, LOL double standards.

Your too fast with that LOL.

Shuny did play the victim card, I still believe that. She ran right to the DR to complain after it, turned on the tears when it suited her, used emotive and overly dramatic language, and grabbed her camera time in an attempt to blow it up into something huge. That hasnt happened at all here.

Look, had JJ done the same thing repeatedly, to a variety of HMs, I would have seen the situation differently but he didnt. Dave has. There is a diference between one accident and repeated behaviour. Dave's assaults have been repeated.

At the very least we should be questioning if he can control himself and stop hurting others when he is in a hysterical 'drunken' state.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by vesavius

No, there was two sides in that debate, and you are only choosing to remember the one.

The other side clearly made out that Shuny had been assaulted and JJ should be made to leave, even though it was a one off accident.



Your too fast with that LOL.

Shuny did play the victim card, I still believe that. She ran right to the DR to complain after it, turned on the tears when it suited her, used emotive and overly dramatic language, and grabbed her camera time in an attempt to blow it up into something huge. That hasnt happened at all here.

Look, had JJ done the same thing repeatedly, to a variety of HMs, I would have seen the situation differently but he didnt. Dave has. There is a diference between one accident and repeated behaviour. Dave's assaults have been repeated.

At the very least we should be questioning if he can control himself and stop hurting others when he is in a hysterical 'drunken' state.

I can use bold too! Assaults? Overreaction of the year, you seem to have a very biased view taking in to account who you like/dont like.

You know there were very few on Sunshine's side because simply JJ was more popular, dont try make it sound equal so that you can use it to try to back up your opinion in this case. Cba arguing, he simply is heavy-handed and a bit careless, seeing the fun sides of things, maybe if the housemates decided to tell him what they thought, instead of bitching, it would have been sorted out - not that he does this often anyway, 2 occasions that I know of!