[fingers]

Oh he's sane alright, sane enough to covet that £100,000 prize at the end - that will keep St. Dave and his family in the style to which they have become accustomed.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by fingers

Oh he's sane alright, sane enough to covet that £100,000 prize at the end - that will keep St. Dave and his family in the style to which they have become accustomed.

Please comment on Dave's editing. THANKYOU

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I don't know much about the UK BB watching/voting demographic...but here in Australia BB was extremely popular with the gay community. Maybe they want them riled in anger against him as a "hate/villain character" or something...just guessing

Yep, same in the UK where the real devoted 'hardcore audience' is made up of not just gays but also that type of youth who 'identify' strongly with that subculture/scene.
Yes, I think the explanation is fairly simple - they want to catch David saying something about homosexuality being a sin or wrong etc.. then (if possible) show him up as a 'hypocrite' or whatnot,
and,
watch the phone votes just go over-the-top with zealous 'gay rights defense' mega multi-voting from that 'core' audience.

The problem is that David is not 'homophobic' and has a fairly moderate and empathetic view on this issue and even the editing and BBLB comments on come across as 'desperate'.

Maybe if David came across more as a 'parent' to this audience? Then they could stir up more hate I think.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

The 38-year-old from nearby Pontypool is a former drug-user who makes no apologies for painting God as a party animal who wants to win over youngsters with supernatural highs.

Bizarrely, David greets me at the door wearing a monk outfit – he is joined by dozens of dancing pirates, an Abraham Lincoln, a unicorn, winged fairy and a court jester draped in Christmas lights.

After leading me to a quiet room away from the madness, David says: “This behaviour and message is bringing liberation to a world that doesn’t want Christianity as it has been.
“People are looking for something relevant to them. If you like to party, drink and take drugs, our advice is, ‘Don’t drink Vodka, drink God-ka’.

“There is no greater high than the Most High. When you come into God’s presence there is an intoxication that is overwhelming.

“It is filled with life and brings you to another level of joy unspeakable, liberating you from fears and inhibitions you find in the world. It is a blissful sense of liberty.

“This isn’t offensive to the Lord, but it is to the religious folk who attend a dead organisation.

“Heaven is going to be wild. God will show up and be the life of the party. We want to see fun coming back into the Church.”

Christians who claim to get high on the Holy Spirit and drunk on Heaven’s wine have caused outrage in the USA.

Dozens of complaints about blasphemy have been posted on YouTube videos of the movement’s best-known advocate, John Crowder.

The former alcoholic, whose fans are dubbed “Crowderites”, is at Sloshfest and typically slurs through sermons about “smoking the Baby Jesus”, being “whacked out” and “tokin’ on the Holy Ghost”.

Event organiser David reveals God guided him to establish Emerge Wales, the group behind Sloshfest, which calls itself “A rising supernatural movement in the UK who are burning for Jesus”.

...words of a sane man? I think not...

Fingers No.2!

[BJ]

Are we talking about the hypocrite, Dave, who is embarrassed by seeing up womens' skirts and seeing them wearing wet shirts, who finds it funny when Mario pulls his pants down.

I agree with FireTwilight about his bitching and he takes every opportunity to make sly jibes about his "friend" Ben in front of anyone he can.

I'll be glad to see the back of him

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Fingers No.2!

oh behave ..I have opinions that match certain FMs doesnt make me a sidekick.. it just means great minds think alike

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Yep, same in the UK where the real devoted 'hardcore audience' is made up of not just gays but also that type of youth who 'identify' strongly with that subculture/scene.
Yes, I think the explanation is fairly simple - they want to catch David saying something about homosexuality being a sin or wrong etc.. then (if possible) show him up as a 'hypocrite' or whatnot,
and,
watch the phone votes just go over-the-top with zealous 'gay rights defense' mega multi-voting from that 'core' audience.

The problem is that David is not 'homophobic' and has a fairly moderate and empathetic view on this issue and even the editing and BBLB comments on come across as 'desperate'.

Maybe if David came across more as a 'parent' to this audience? Then they could stir up more hate I think.

Thanks very much for clearing that up.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

Please comment on Dave's editing. THANKYOU

It is high time the producers started portraying St. Dave for what he is - a hypocritical recruiter of new blood for his own invented cult. The producers put him in the house for a laugh and it has backfired big-time. where they thought he was going to parade around every day in his monk's costume he ditched it after day 1. where they thought he'd be an hysterical laughing stock with his "drunk on the Bible" act, he also ditched that fairly soon. He is now putting on the act of being the jovial, caring soul from the Welsh Mountains and beginning to con the public with this act, so much so, that he might even be a dangerous rival to their own favourite to win, - Lord Ben The Vain, of the fake Sloane Square accent!

Their only hope of preventing St. Dave from beating them at their own game is to finally show him as the fake figure of ridicule that he really is.

[Blueisthecolour]

Originally Posted by Colbert-Bump

Thought it was bang out of order showing Dave in the toilet with Andrew...they don't show other housemates half-naked in private.

Yeah but in fairness Dave then stood in the middle of the bedroom and dropped his trousers so he could show everyone his arse.

He moans about women showing a bit of boob or wearing shorts skirts, but feels free to get his own backside on show.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by BJ

Are we talking about the hypocrite, Dave, who is embarrassed by seeing up womens' skirts and seeing them wearing wet shirts, who finds it funny when Mario pulls his pants down.

There is nothing 'hypocrite' about it.
He DOES believe it is acceptable for men to be naked amongst each other.
He DOES NOT believe that women should be naked among men.
He then carries on according to that belief system.

You may be the rare person on earth who disagrees with his ideas on this,
BUT,
In fact, he is consistent with his said belief system.

I would also add that 'hypocrite' implies 'acting' and is not the same idea as someone making a mistake or 'genuinely' having some inconsistent behavior/claims,
but,
that is another story.

In this case David hasn't been 'hypocritical' although he ought not have been flashing the room when Josie was in there (which he doesn't see as sexual),
but,
I did notice he believed she was facing away and not seeing it.
*but again, he does not believe there is sexual issues. This is what 'his reasoning' supposes.
No hypocrisy.

Believe me.. i will be happy to agree if and when ACTUAL Hypocrisy shows up,
but,
no, its not here.

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by fingers

It is high time the producers started portraying St. Dave for what he is - a hypocritical recruiter of new blood for his own invented cult. The producers put him in the house for a laugh and it has backfired big-time. where they thought he was going to parade around every day in his monk's costume he ditched it after day 1. where they thought he'd be an hysterical laughing stock with his "drunk on the Bible" act, he also ditched that fairly soon. He is now putting on the act of being the jovial, caring soul from the Welsh Mountains and beginning to con the public with this act, so much so, that he might even be a dangerous rival to their own favourite to win, - Lord Ben The Vain, of the fake Sloane Square accent!

Their only hope of preventing St. Dave from beating them at their own game is to finally show him as the fake figure of ridicule that he really is.

OK, let's get past your obvious anger toward him for a second, and disregard possible reasons why he was put in the house. Do you believe he is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show? An honest answer please.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

There is nothing 'hypocrite' about it.
He DOES believe it is acceptable for men to be naked amongst each other.
He DOES NOT believe that women should be naked among men.
He then carries on according to that belief system.

yes in other words he's a misogynist pig with double standards that only he is allowed to dictate!!

[fingers]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

OK, let's get past your obvious anger toward him for a second, and disregard possible reasons why he was put in the house. Do you believe he is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show? An honest answer please.

You asked for an ON TOPIC reply, I gave it!

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by fingers

You asked for an ON TOPIC reply, I gave it!

Yes, and mine is a ON TOPIC question. Do you believe he is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

They do it to them all, editing is bad for all of them, the olny one who seems to get good editing is Ben and Josie (but finally their showing their bitchy sides)

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

Yes, and mine is a ON TOPIC question. Do you believe he is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show?

would you two please get a room lol

[psychtracker]

I'll extend my offer to you FireTwilight.

Do you believe Dave is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show?

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I'll extend my offer to you FireTwilight.

Do you believe Dave is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show?

I have answered your thread and stated my opinion.. its a 1 hour BB show not the Dave show.. if he does nothing of course there won't be much HL action... which proves he truly is just a boring repetative HM

Maybe if he had done something fun or worthy of more HL feed im sure it would be shown.. but BB only have a 1hour show not 24 hours ...so it doesnt really matter TBH

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

yes in other words he's a misogynist pig with double standards that only he is allowed to dictate!!

No.
He is not allowed to dictate them. He can argue it for himself and try and persuade others but nowhere does he 'dictate' them.

Now, it turns out he doesn't have to persuade many people as almost everyone agrees with him.
I suspect you actually 'say' one thing about this and apply it selectively to David - yet - in your daily practice you do something differently and don't hold others accountable?
Laws in this country say that a man CAN be naked in a men's changeroom yet he CANNOT walk naked into a womans change room.
A woman cannot strip naked in public.
Men and women have different toilets - government rules too.

So you try and decide how YOU apply different standards or claim to be opposed to this in 'one instance' but not another?
Answer for that?

[-Sue-]

Dave wanted Mario to get nekkid for a laugh but then preaches of not wanting to see boobage? that is a double standard which is Dave all over...

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

No.
He is not allowed to dictate them. He can argue it for himself and try and persuade others but nowhere does he 'dictate' them.

Now, it turns out he doesn't have to persuade many people as almost everyone agrees with him.
I suspect you actually 'say' one thing about this and apply it selectively to David - yet - in your daily practice you do something differently and don't hold others accountable?
Laws in this country say that a man CAN be naked in a men's changeroom yet he CANNOT walk naked into a womans change room.
A woman cannot strip naked in public.
Men and women have different toilets - government rules too.

So you try and decide how YOU apply different standards or claim to be opposed to this in 'one instance' but not another?
Answer for that?

i don't know what you mean when Caoimhe questioned him instead of answering her he pushed her away and then was the ring leader of the anti-caoimhe bullies because she dared question him. Hes a woman hating pig in my book and he reminds me of my pig of a boss too

[psychtracker]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

I have answered your thread and stated my opinion..

I'm only asking for a simple one word answer.

Do you believe he is getting a GOOD or BAD Edit on the HL Show?

Be honest please.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by FireTwilight

The 38-year-old from nearby Pontypool is a former drug-user who makes no apologies for painting God as a party animal who wants to win over youngsters with supernatural highs.... etc. etc. etc.

[/B]

If you can't express your opinion in your own words, at least have the decency to credit the writer.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

I've been watching the BB streams for the last couple of weeks, and Dave is the life and soul of that place. He's a genuinely warm and good-hearted guy, having lots of harmless fun...keeping everyone entertained. Then when they assemble the HL shows they're desperately attempting to paint him in a bad light at any given scenario!

C'mon BB Producers, you're a fcking DISGRACE you should be ashamed of yourselves!!!

He's a big fat hypocrite.

Nominating women for daring to bare their flesh, Caoimhe and Rachael, yet encouraging Mario to get his knob out during the Ben/JJ row. Even following Mario to the bedroom to he could get a good skeg.

He's been very lucky in the edit too with hardly any of his bitching with Ben being shown. He must spend atleast half his time putting people down, mostly the woman too.

It would be very easy to paint that disgrace in a bad light.

[karezza]

You have to watch the live feed to appreciate how funny Dave is - the producers don't want him in the final.