[Livia]

Originally Posted by Claymores

As Visage suggested tho, the effete queen would just give -up after 15 minutes

All your dislike of Ben seems to come from your perception of his sexuality. It's a bit 1970s to be honest.

[Shiner]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's a bedroom. If they want to make a noise, go outside the bedroom. Making a noise in the bedroom while people are trying to sleep - especially as he's asked them very nicely to shut up - is really ill-mannered.

Some people equate ill manners and antisocial behaviour with entertainment. They can't seem to undo the of suspension of reality between real life and scripted drama situations simply because it is on the telly.

[MrWong]

I can't believe Ben's still whinging.

Watched a bit this morning, went up the west end shopping, come back and it's the same subject.

Has Ben been going on about the sleeping thing all that time?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Livia

All your dislike of Ben seems to come from your perception of his sexuality. It's a bit 1970s to be honest.

Actually don't care whether he's hetro or not - I'll quite accept your word on it. It would still make him no less a hetro effete queen who is abhorrent and self-obsessed