[Livia]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Look at you lot, all foaming at the mouth and incensed because a man prays for sick people and spends his time telling people that their creator loves them. Silly Billys.

They're not listening Peter. They don't receive, they just transmit.

"And some fell on stoney ground", eh?

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're not listening Peter. They don't receive, they just transmit.

"And some fell on stoney ground", eh?

Ha, you may be right there

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

Look at you lot, all foaming at the mouth and incensed because a man prays for sick people and spends his time telling people that their creator loves them. Silly Billys.

You made a spelling error there... he PREYS on sick people, he doesn't PRAY for them...

He cons money out of the sick & vulnerable telling them he can cure their cancer, when he can do no such thing...

The people who support what he does are "silly billys" though I would actually use much stronger language...

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

You made a spelling error there... he PREYS on sick people, he doesn't PRAY for them...

He cons money out of the sick & vulnerable telling them he can cure their cancer, when he can do no such thing...

The people who support what he does are "silly billys" though I would actually use much stronger language...

LOL, I see what you did there, very clever, big gold star for you.

Where's your proof that he cons people out of money? Quoting Fingers doesn't count.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

LOL, I see what you did there, very clever, big gold star for you.

Where's your proof that he cons people out of money? Quoting Fingers doesn't count.

I'm going by what St Dave has said HIMSELF in the house

So he can cure cancer then?? Wow... I'm sure there is proof for that then...

[LBB11]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I'm going by what St Dave has said HIMSELF in the house

So he can cure cancer then?? Wow... I'm sure there is proof for that then...

Thats totally sick, my best friends dad had cancer 7years ago he bet it but its came back now and hearing people say **** like that makes me personaly very angery.

[fingers]

The long and short of it is, he's a Charlatan and a con man.

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by fingers

The long and short of it is, he's a Charlatan and a con man.

That's your opinion, it's wrong but believe it anyway if it helps you sleep better.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

That's your opinion, it's wrong but believe it anyway if it helps you sleep better.

If it's his opinion how can it be wrong??

So St Dave CAN grow amputees new limbs then & cure cancer, bloody hell, he should work at a hospital, he's wasted pretending to be pissed all the time...

[fingers]

Is there a full moon again?

[fingers]

Never mind, Peter, come Saturday you can wheel him, dressed in his Monk's suit , around Cardiff in one of his 4 Wheelchairs.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by fingers

Never mind, Peter, come Saturday you can wheel him, dressed in his Monk's suit , around Cardiff in one of his 4 Wheelchairs.

Yes they can go & get pissed whilst sniffing the LSD laced bibles...

[the-gaffer]

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by the-gaffer

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

Because he preys on sick & vulnerable people, telling them that he can cure their cancer for a donation! That's why...

[fingers]

Originally Posted by the-gaffer

Dave is fantastic, it amuses me how many people can have sensationalist hate over someone

Quite, you've obviously refused to watch his antics on YouTube while he's acting pissed as a fart on Jesus juice!.

THAT'S the REAL David Vaughan, not the pretend St. Dave whom GOD told that He was going to open the big Brother doors for.

[starry]

Yes...what I believe is that he is a good HM. Far better than quite a few others in there including JJ, Andrew, Josie, Steve, Laura, Rachel and maybe others too.

[Peter Plunker]

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

What a load of codswallop.

anyway you can collect St. Dave on Friday night down Elstree way, remember to bring his Jesus Juice.

At least you're getting loads of free publicity for that DVD box set you are advertising in your sig.

[Peter Plunker]

Originally Posted by fingers

What a load of codswallop.

anyway you can collect St. Dave on Friday night down Elstree way, remember to bring his Jesus Juice.

At least you're getting loads of free publicity for that DVD box set you are advertising in your sig.

Yeah because I'm in a Californian thrash metal band

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

Bullsh*t

He CLAIMS he can CURE THEM, he doesn't just pray for them, that is the BIG difference...

And "the best that can happen is they get healed" Stop talking bo**ocks mate, it is not possible to cure someone simply by praying for them...

And I'm sure most people couldn't give two hoots about the mythical character Jesus, from that bestselling novel "The Bible"...

[LBB11]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Bullsh*t

He CLAIMS he can CURE THEM, he doesn't just pray for them, that is the BIG difference...

And "the best that can happen is they get healed" Stop talking bo**ocks mate, it is not possible to cure someone simply by praying for them...

And I'm sure most people couldn't give two hoots about the mythical character Jesus, from that bestselling novel "The Bible"...

lmao i was going to comment on this but would have ended in a angry rant, glad you and fingers did.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by Peter Plunker

I lost my Mam 2 years ago too.

How is going up to someone in the street and praying for them 'preying' on them? I don't get your logic. What's the worst that can happen, they walk off as ill as they were before thinking who was that weirdo. The best that can happen is they get healed and know that Jesus died for them.

I'm sorry for your loss, i lost mine in jan 2008

i'm sorry, but jesus did not die for me, NO WAY...he died for his own sins, not mine. Plenty of people have died for (and because of) him and his followers though. I can be loving and forgiving without jesus and without the collection of nutty books that is the bible.

[InOne]

Nobody can cure the sick with magic powers. Anyone who thinks that is seriously deluded.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Nobody can cure the sick with magic powers. Anyone who thinks that is seriously deluded.

Magic is not 'supernatural' but 'natural. In fact, a clever surgeon may be able to use some props, hand manipulation and 'trick the body' into a cure for some ailment.
We can call this sort of manipulation and trickery using natural forces and things as "Magic Powers".

Now 'supernatural' power is something that may or may not be able to heal sickness or cure disease.
Do we see this happening today?
I've never seen it. Some are interesting or make me want to know more but I've never seen it.

You haven't either (that you know of) but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not happen.
Nothing.
Like a thousand other things you have never seen may very well have happened or exist.
Surely millions of things.

[stonedape]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Magic is not 'supernatural' but 'natural. In fact, a clever surgeon may be able to use some props, hand manipulation and 'trick the body' into a cure for some ailment.
We can call this sort of manipulation and trickery using natural forces and things as "Magic Powers".

We can, but we don't. We refer to that sort of manipulation and "trickery" using natural forces "medicine" or "science".

Originally Posted by ElProximo

You haven't either (that you know of) but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not happen.
Nothing.
Like a thousand other things you have never seen may very well have happened or exist.
Surely millions of things.

Which is exactly why it's so stupid to subscribe to just a few unfalsifiable concepts (UFOs, a creator of the universe) when there's a nearly infinite amount of concepts we could subscribe to if our only rationale was we can't disprove all possibilities in space and time. That's why you need some kind of positive, objective evidence before considering an extraordinary claim true..."I have no evidence he committed the crime, but you have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of asserting it could not have happened. LOCK HIM UP!"