[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

so if its fake you dont think john james is at least 50% to blame.

Yes - I do - I think they are as bad as each other - can't stand either of them!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Zippy

LOL. Look at my paddypowers thread; he's now 4th behind Sam! If he were a redhot contender they wouldnt be offering 6/1 at this late stage.

I know bugger all about betting odds - but I take your word for that! Sounds good!

[joeysteele]

I feel JJames is more to blame because at least Josie does want him,he on the other hand has no interest in her at all except to futher his cause in winning BB.

How she cannot grasp that from what he says, I forget what she said to him but it was personal and complimentary as he was something of the best guy she shared a bed with,his grossly put down response was that she was the funniest girl he'd shared a bed with, funny, funny how??!! Hardly the response of a man who fancies her at all.

Also in the task, maybe he guessed it was a task maybe not, but when JJ2 had his hand on Josies knee for over 14 minutes,if JJames really fancied her and intended her to be anything to him, he made no response at all, not bothered in the slightest.

For such an angry man, no hint of jealousy at all. Josie is heading for heartbreak when she realises how cruel and cold he is,too late then but he really is far more to blame than her,he makes it clearer and clearer she means little,while really knowing she is so besotted she cannot see that,and that's cruel.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I feel JJames is more to blame because at least Josie does want him,he on the other hand has no interest in her at all except to futher his cause in winning BB.

How she cannot grasp that from what he says, I forget what she said to him but it was personal and complimentary as he was something of the best guy she shared a bed with,his grossly put down response was that she was the funniest girl he'd shared a bed with, funny, funny how??!! Hardly the response of a man who fancies her at all.

Also in the task, maybe he guessed it was a task maybe not, but when JJ2 had his hand on Josies knee for over 14 minutes,if JJames really fancied her and intended her to be anything to him, he made no response at all, not bothered in the slightest.

For such an angry man, no hint of jealousy at all. Josie is heading for heartbreak when she realises how cruel and cold he is,too late then but he really is far more to blame than her,he makes it clearer and clearer she means little,while really knowing she is so besotted she cannot see that,and that's cruel.

Personally - I have absolutely no sympathy for Josie!

Firstly - I think she is every bit as manipulative as him!

Secondly - She allows herself to be treated that way by her own behaviour (whatever her motives - sympathy vote) - she invites it by acting so desperate!

She is either playing a good game - or she lacks dignity and self-respect - or a bit of both!

[THE WATCHER]

yep tough titty, cannot stand either of them and both deserve sod all