[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She'll be safe, they were all on full 'Save Cher' mode tonight. It's Mary, Wagner & Katie that ought to be worrying.

I tend to agree. All the judges were giving it big licks on the "you must pick up the phone to vote".... nothing like touting for that extra wee bit of money coming into the show to line their pockes with.

[nanaimo]

Katie will go first and no matter who would be up against Cher, her cowell posse will keep her (if she is in the bottom 3) the only one that could cause trouble for her with judge votes would be one direction.

[nanaimo]

is there a sing off or just votes tomorrow night?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

is there a sing off or just votes tomorrow night?

i think the bottom of the votes is automatically eliminated and then 2nd and 3rd from bottom will be in the sing off.

[Dr.Gonzo]

I wouldn't find Cher so annoying if she showed a little humility.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

I wouldn't find Cher so annoying if she showed a little humility.

Youtube video

yes that is Cher saying she didn't think she did too well in her performance and she feels sorry for Cheryl. Is that humble enough for you?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by patsylimerick

I love that this has turned into a discussion about Jedward
They are about on a par, in terms of actual talent, with Cher - but they were infinitely more modest, likeable, well brought up and well presented. They won people around with their lovely manners and easy smiles. My children, who are all under 9, love Jedward, and whoever they love, I love
They can't stand Cher, thank God, and wonder, regularly, why she always looks so cross and why she think she's so great!!!

How right you are - Cher often does have a heavy frown on her face - not what you'd expect from a young teenager who is currently 'living the dream'. But she has a reputation as being a bit of a brat, so it doesn't actually surprise me. It's hard to throw sulky teenage strops and tantrum with a smile on your face!

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

How right you are - Cher often does have a heavy frown on her face - not what you'd expect from a young teenager who is currently 'living the dream'. But she has a reputation as being a bit of a brat, so it doesn't actually surprise me. It's hard to throw sulky teenage strops and tantrum with a smile on your face!

No she doesn't often have a frown on her face. :S

And if you listened to Simons comments the other week he said she has been a delight in person. I think he'd know.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Fair point, Jords. I'll accept that. It would be nice to see it on the show, but I'll accept that. Thanks, bud.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo

Fair point, Jords. I'll accept that. It would be nice to see it on the show, but I'll accept that. Thanks, bud.

Thanks, its good to see atleast someone is willing to change their view sligthly.

[Z]

She was pretty weak last night, like, her Girlfriend performance - I was impressed with her rapping, but thought the backing track totally drowned her out and it was very shouty and tame; then her Walk This Way just felt like the exact same performance being continued into a new song and again, the backing track muffled her. I think she'll probably be safe because her fans will be going into overdrive, but then again it's a double elimination so they're going to have to vote more than they have done before to ensure she's safe. I'm thinking Mary and Katie are going home, if there is a sing off between 5th and 6th then I think it could be Mary v Cher. :/

[fruit_cake]

Cheryl's bringing out the worst in Cher.. Cher's her own person she's not Cheryl Mk2 I hope she maintains a bit more distance..

Cher never assaulted anyone as far as we know, it's not fair she should be blamed for things her mentor did!

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Cheryl's bringing out the worst in Cher.. Cher's her own person she's not Cheryl Mk2 I hope she maintains a bit more distance..

Cher never assaulted anyone as far as we know, it's not fair she should be blamed for things her mentor did!

Well said.

[fruit_cake]

seems to me like Cheryl got bored of playing Simon says and made it into Cheryl says lol

[Vicky.]

Stop with the bickering for gods sake.

People are entitled to have negative/positive opinions on any contestant, and shouldnt be made to feel singled out because of this.

Also referring to other members as 'it' or whatever and purposely trying to bait even though that member is apparently on your ignore list...isnt on.

[Vicky.]

To add to ^^^ that...it is unwise to make threads about FANS of a contestant. It always ends in arguments. Stick to discussing the actual contestants :/

[Mystic Mock]

jordan they were saying all sorts of stuff and being really smug,but i just cant remember them all.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

oh yes locke and other cher fans were saying katie was more popular than aiden just because she beat him 1 week.

Well she is still there and he isnt so its kind of true....

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I cant prove it but isnt it fairly obvious people wouldn't go out of their way to watch videos or someone they weren't supporting. :

Maybe some people need to.

Some people have minds of their own, to make judgements on what is available for judgment to be made - you have no idea what people are viewing, where, when or how often, so your notion that you have some better basis upon which to offer your judgment, over that of others, is nothing but fallacy I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

She's got some talent, better than the average girl on the street I accept.. but this isn't a school disco, this is a national singing competition.

I don't think her talent's lie in her singing.

Wonderfully succinct and excellent way of putting the point across.

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well she is still there and he isnt so its kind of true....

It's not 'kind of true'. All is means that in that one particular week, Aiden fell in popularity.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

ermm he beat her 5 weeks she beat him 1 week,also katie keeps getting stuck on last just to give her a chance.

Well its a competition and she beat him fair and square, no point going on about it, you cant change it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well its a competition and she beat him fair and square, no point going on about it, you cant change it.

she didnt though as she was on later than him when he went and simon keeps saving her everytime she hits the bottom two,even though he prefered aiden.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

she didnt though as she was on later than him when he went and simon keeps saving her everytime she hits the bottom two,even though he prefered aiden.

If he preferred Aiden he would have saved him. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter to him who wins, he still gets the money he wants.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

. Y'all secretly love her really.

.

Actually, you are right in a small way. I loved, absolutely loved seeing her being placed in the bottom two last week.

So from that angle, yes, I loved her being put in her place and being brought down a peg or two. She's not as good a singer or entertainer as she believe she is - othewise the public would not have placed her in the sing off. That is the heart of the matter.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

No she doesn't often have a frown on her face. :S

And if you listened to Simons comments the other week he said she has been a delight in person. I think he'd know.

Thing is: I'm more than aware that Simon has a vested interest, he's backing up his sidekick Cole - he's got to prevent him being left with egg all over his face - so of course he's going to try to generate some positive publicity on her - he has to, as it's the only source of good publicity she gets. The press pretty much have a very low opinion of Cher too, as do her Xfactor housemates. There's no smoke without fire.

Originally Posted by Stacey.x

Well I'm just sure other people are getting tired of your posts coming up slating Cher every saturday and sunday. It's repetetive and boring now.

I've seen you make the odd post on Rebecca and Matt, not seen any others, they're all on Cher what I've seen.

Anyone who finds my posts boring have that wonderful facility known as the ignore feature that they can utilise.

As it is, while Cher remains on XFactor, and while the show is still being shown, I'll post on her when I feel I want to.

As for my 'odd post' here and there, you followed me around the forum last night and into the early hours of this morning, like a puppy dog, so you'll know that I venture outwith the XFactor - and quite often. !

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Ah right so when Simon says something good, I should believe him. When anyone else, press or other contestants say something bad, I should not believe them. Not much bias going on there eh!

I see with my own eyes, and watch what a little brat Cher is. I mean, come on, her idol is Cheryl Cole, a woman who is well known for punching a toilet attendant in the face. It's not hard to see why Cheryl 'sees so much of Cher when she was her age' in her!

Well tbf Simon knows every detail about what goes on so yes you probably should believe him over silly tabloids that twist peoples words.

I dont think Cher has ever said Cheryl is her idol tbh, obviously she looks up to her because Cheryl has been in the same situation as her. About that whole incident with the toilet attentdent it was almost 8 years ago so you really are just clutching at whatever reasons you can find now. Are people not allowed to make a silly mistake and then move on and grow up, Cheryl apologized went through with her punishment and got over it, maybe you should.